Can I get some opinions on what exactly you think UFOs are? (Very interesting Update coming page 10 bear with me)

We are trapped in a fixation of the physical or material aspect of consciousness. If we were more tuned to the spiritual or non physical aspect of consciousness, we too might come to and under(inner)standing of how things work. Unfortunately we are going about it backwards.

Had someone email me from this forum the other day saying something to the extent that it is easy to be spiritual when you have a roof over your head, etc etc etc. Which of course is backwards as many spiritual tradition have asectic aspects to them, specifically with regards to the material such as food, contact with others, sexual release, etc. We simply have been manipulated for so long we are way out of balance and is why we can not perform mind over matter to any regular or accurate degree. When we see those who do have some degree of control of manipulating probabilities, we deny it, rationalize it away. We are stuck in a left brain mentality, the logical and rational is part of the trap. There certainly is value in logic and rationale, however to makes these the sole focal point of how one interprets reality is folly and of course exploited.

Which is why it is said the coming "messiah" will have a feminine aspect to it. Which simply means the opposite polarity, think right brained. Consider how emotions are completely marginalized, posed as dangerous - yet emotional prayers often go answered while non emotional prayer may not yield quite as much success. Emotions are very important to all of this, they seem to amplify intent...for better or for worse.

lol that's not what inter dimensional means.

Or, this is all a simulation and UFOs are part of the game. That's a very real possibility and we're in the "game" with ETs from our base reality.

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I am not claiming a duplicate of greater consciousness as there is only The One, Creator, Source, God, etc, which has infinite expressions. What I am saying is there would be no reason a duplicate of the individual consciousness unit can exist, meaning the I AM also has infinite expressions to because It Is. We are a fractal representation of The One, which has infinite expressions, little consciousness and greater consciousness. So while there is only ONE greater consciousness field, there are infinite expressions of it, fractal in nature. This then means we too as individuals have an infinite aspect of our smaller consciousness fields, and by shifting our consciousness from one aspect of "time" to another, the Greater Consciousness would spin up a "physical" body as long as there is no conflict in data, such as shifting to a "time" when there would be two of you to create a conflict in the data. In event of the conflict, I imagine the shift to be more OBE than time travel as your individual consciousness could still experience the shift as the you that you may be conflicting would not know the conscious you that shifted is present, thus no conflict in data.

OP said: "They have the ability to leave and enter what we perceive as a 3 d construct seeming to bend the rules".

Very interesting! When I had my experience back in 2002, I repeatedly saw these objects flying down and into a heavily forested mountain top. The first time I observed this I fully expected to see a big fireball, but the object just disappeared into the trees. This was 20 years before the ufo community began discussing "trans-medium" craft flying into and out of the ocean. Could this illustrate the "3 d construct" you mention?

The photo below shows an aircraft flying right to left, down into the trees. Why would any pilot do this?

ilusions, birds, trash, real planes, secrets new ones, or just made up bullshit by wana be important people..

"Time travel" simply being a shift in consciousness to a alternate universe where the event shifted to is currently playing out, as all time exists in the here in now so there really is no "time travel", merely a shift in consciousness from one universe/reality to the other.

I imagine it this way, we are time traveling machines. If you shift your consciousness to another parallel universe where the desired event is playing out, your physical body would exist in the reality or time you are leaving but the consciousness would shift to the desired location. The greater consciousness field then spins up a new body for this consciousness, providing there would be no conflict in the data, such as two of you meeting. If there is no conflict, then there is no reason two physical representations of you with two different aspects of your individual consciousness can exist.

Tom Campbell talks about how perception springs up 10 to the neg44/sec, so fast we do not perceive it. That physical reality does not exist per say, the conscious perception of it does and what matters is the data and whether or not it is interpreted. I am fairly sure I am not doing the explanation here justice, his Spain lecture is fantastic, 13 parts on YT.

As far as ships being conscious, I am not really sure I see this as impossible as technology simply mimics what is in nature. I imagine a sufficiently advanced in consciousness races would be able to create conscious constructs. Consider the infinite expressions of The One, fractal in their nature. I do not see a reason why any of this is not possible.


time does have a single paradox constraint, which must be addressed for time travel and duplicate consciousness question!

reality cannot be differentiated from time or consciousness.
the fabric of both is interwoven throughout reality!

reality recognizes the single forward progression of time as
consciousness within a non-static perception. meaning consciousness grows as time progresses! to time travel would
insinuate that the time traveler would have a consciousness that would be out of place in the past or future! this bifurcation of consciousness, would alter time, just by the mere presence of a mismatch reality! in other words, it would separate time and consciousness, it would in and of itself constitute a big bang! lol

Looks like we'll all know, and not have to think, soon enough.

spirituality is an aspect of wonderment, even the most astute astrophysicist would attest to that! lol

it has nothing to do with the any gender aspect! lol

time does have a single paradox constraint, which must be addressed for time travel and duplicate consciousness question!

reality cannot be differentiated from time or consciousness.
the fabric of both is interwoven throughout reality!

reality recognizes the single forward progression of time as
consciousness within a non-static perception. meaning consciousness grows as time progresses! to time travel would
insinuate that the time traveler would have a consciousness that would be out of place in the past or future! this bifurcation of consciousness, would alter time, just by the mere presence of a mismatch reality! in other words, it would separate time and consciousness, it would in and of itself constitute a big bang! lol


I do not see the paradox, again it is a shift of consciousness, not the physical body. "Time travel" is a misnomer since time is a illusion, a construct. Which is why I equate the concept to a parallel universe, shifting consciousness where the physical body remains in the perceived reality which consciousness itself makes the shift. I imagine the physical body would be in a altered state resembling deep sleep.

The little conscious field that is you is shifted to the alternate universe where the desired "time" is playing out and if no conflicts or paradoxs' can occur, then the greater consciousness field can spin up a new physical body for your little conscious field to inhabit. No conflict, no paradox, two physical aspects of you with two separate aspects of consciousness would exist in this shifted to "reality" or "time". In the event of paradox or conflict in data, your shifted consciousness is simply in a obe/remote viewing state as the greater consciousness field would not spin you up a new body.

this is about polarity, not gender, easily confused.

this is the conflict! in terms of the mismatch in the data!
one person existing as two people with two different time/consciousness perspectives, results in a butterfly effect that changes a timeline in a way that a infects and corrupts the integrity of the singularity!

the process works in 2001 because the timetraveler only meets himself in the fullness of time and consciousness! lol

there is a balance there that satisfies the transition! lol

one person existing as two people with two different time/consciousness perspectives, results in a butterfly effect that changes a timeline in a way that a infects and corrupts the integrity of the singularity!

the singularity being time/consciousness or consciousness/time! lol

not confused i didn't bring up gender! lol

there is no polarity regarding time or consciousness! lol

If time were linear, I might agree with you, which the word timeline implies. Since I am of the ignorant perspective that time is not linear, I do not see a conflict. I see alternate realities created every time a conscious being makes a choice, hence the infinite aspect. So if the "time traveling" conscious you that has a spun up body to accommodate it in the alternate universe, if you affect things, it will be in that universe going "forward". When you shift back to your reality, the body de-materializes in the alternate universe and your consciousness merges back with your body in this universe. The only affect to this "time line" would be what you create with your choices based on the knowledge and understanding gained from your experience, going "forward".

Neither did I...

I do not see the paradox, again it is a shift of consciousness, not the physical body. "Time travel" is a misnomer since time is a illusion, a construct. Which is why I equate the concept to a parallel universe, shifting consciousness where the physical body remains in the perceived reality which consciousness itself makes the shift. I imagine the physical body would be in a altered state resembling deep sleep.

The little conscious field that is you is shifted to the alternate universe where the desired "time" is playing out and if no conflicts or paradoxs' can occur, then the greater consciousness field can spin up a new physical body for your little conscious field to inhabit. No conflict, no paradox, two physical aspects of you with two separate aspects of consciousness would exist in this shifted to "reality" or "time". In the event of paradox or conflict in data, your shifted consciousness is simply in a obe/remote viewing state as the greater consciousness field would not spin you up a new body.


i'm not averse to the sense reality being experienced outside one's self! it is practical intuition and a sense of of extra perception! this goes hand and hand with a sense of knowing that some cultivate! but it is not the time paradox! lol

i hilighted the portion of text that applied, if that wasn't you! my mistake! lol

No

No, it is your mistake in your understanding of what I wrote. Consider the hermetic principle of polarity, which states "The principle of polarity explains that seemingly opposite things are actually one and the same at varying degrees. A simple example of this is hot and cold. Cold is just the absence of heat, and they're both one thing: temperature. Physical matter and spiritual energy are the same thing, with spiritual energy vibrating at a much higher level, such that it can't be perceived by our senses. Love and hate are two ways of experiencing the same thing, a relationship toward something. This is the foundation of alchemy, or the ability to "transmute" your experiences at will.". Masculine/Feminine are seen as polar opposites but everything has both a masculine and feminine aspect to it. Which I gave an example of being "left brained", masculine dominated society, fixated in the material. Whereas the feminine aspect would be seen as "right brained" and spiritual or non physical, which is sorely lacking in society, by design.

We are not currently integrated, we have lost touch, to a very great degree both in the number of people and in degree of separation from spirituality. The imbalances we see in our current human condition are merely symptoms of the imbalance. I consider the allegory of the garden of eden and eating of the tree of knowledge as symbolic of consent to being manipulated. Game on so to speak and we are see the consequences all around of of our consent, which we continue to do, every day to varying degrees, on just about every single level. We are material selfish and spiritually selfless, meaning we have needs and wants of the material but we allow others to dictate our thoughts and emotions.

spinning up bodies if where i get off the bus! lol

time and consciousness relate to only the here and now! and that here and now may exist on many planes of consciousness but so far i have only been able to elucidate those planes in this present here and now moment! lol

not saying that the here and now is strictly linear but it the component parts time and consciousness, seem to dictate.
a single reality, for which there exist many unknowns! lol

thank you for sharing! lol

"The imbalances we see in our current human condition are merely symptoms of the imbalance."

Sorry this should read "The troubles we see..."

Check out Tom Campbell and his Spain lectures. He worked with Robert Monroe before there was a Monroe Institute and he is a physicist. Really great lecture and from my ignorant perspective, appears to be very close to "truth". What I have shared here is not a "belief", it is simply my ignorant understanding based on experience as well as outside influence, is fluid and therefore subject to change based on additional experience, information and innerstanding of said information.

That’s one avenue of interpretation I’m aware of and open too

I knew a Guy with similar experience to myself. His accounts support what you’re saying.

My XPs have all been positive though.

No doubt there is a polarization for good and bad so to speak
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i don't believe scrump's a christian! eat a can of worms! lol

and consciousness' and time have no polarity!

however, what you say makes reasonable sense when define in human terms, but i thought the discussion revolved around ufo and what we think they are?

and to understand the phenomena of ufo's one must understand time and consciousness! lol

please don't apologize you always move the conversation forward! lol

i apologize to you if i seem curt in expressing my opinion!

love and God Bless! lol

Thanks for any input. I will definitely catch up. I’m not signed in, this is OP

I’ve chosen to bring forward some info that I’ve never shared on this site. And I have shared some pretty controversial stuff. So that’s saying something

High grade posts and images will be coming

Would have done this today. But I’ve had my hands full updating the thread below. Something I’d highly advise seeing

May get back here in two days, as tomorrow is looking tricky

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They are extra terrestrial AI