Jesus clearly specifies the difference between the pre-Tribulation Rapture and His return post-Tribulation

aaaaahhhh ... the first time was His earthly ministry.

The second time will be at the Resurrection of the saints ... on the LAST day at the LAST trumpet. This is clearly expressed in scripture. No need to make it say something else.

Quit trying to find some hidden message to ease your itching ears. It's simple, it's straight forward.

There are no messages hidden in scripture for some mythical elite or rapture.

All rapture believers are adding to the bible. Not a good idea.

I wouldn't want to be you!

There was nothing added in the scripture above except your false, malaligned interpretation of it. You're correct in that it is straight forward, no need to make it something else.


Another false interpretation you've demonstrated above is equating the last "trump" with being the last trumpet of Revelation. Context is needed to differentiate the two. I distinguished the differences of context above in the two passages regarding the removal of Christ's bride and His judgment after the 7-year Tribulation which you've obviously not grasped.

The last "trump" in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 signifies the last trump sound made during the Rapture when the bride is called up, that scripture defines in detail what will happen during the Rapture and doesn't say last "trumpet". You've falsely assumed the two (trumpet and trump) mean the same when they do not, the scripture is straight forward and no need to make it something else. A trump is not a trumpet but rather the sound a trumpet makes. One familiar with shofar blasts during times of festivals and war would know there are sequential blasts sounded to signify events, celebrations, and imminent danger such as invading enemies.

Your confusion lies in equating the sound a trumpet makes with the instrument itself. Silly? Yes, but such a small mistake has completely misguided your understanding of God's Word. Again as you said above, the scripture is straight forward and no need to make it something else.



Revelation 4:1 also foreshadows the Rapture and that voice which will be as a trumpet sound when the bride is called to Heaven.

After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”
Revelation 4:1



Moving on.

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The Children of God

And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.

1 John 2:28

People who think a rapture is coming or Jesus is coming are the same as the Covid jab worshipers. “Trust the Science” and “Accept Jesus” are the same phrase in different languages.

The passage of Hebrews 9:28 also indicates His second appearance is only for those eagerly awaiting Him (His bride) and will be for salvation of which the subject of the passage is clearly highlighted. Those taken in the Rapture are eagerly awaiting Him, are apart from sin (their vessels are full with oil which is the Holy Spirit) as willful sin grieves and quenches the Holy Spirit and this second appearance is for salvation, not judgment. This is yet another clue that this verse signifies the Rapture.

so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
Hebrews 9:28





His appearance in the clouds at the end of the age in judgment to establish His earthly throne will be quite different-


God’s Final Judgment and Glory

We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 1: 3-12

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“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all nopes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24: 29-31




The "elect" referred to above is not the bride of Christ as the bride of Christ is in heaven during the 7-year Tribulation and the bride returns with Jesus in judgment at the end of the age (Revelation 19:14).

Rather, the elect referred to above are those still alive on earth who survive the 7-year Tribulation and who gave their lives to God during the Tribulation period. These people refused the mark of the beast and refused to worship Satan and are gathered together unto Christ and spared because they gave their lives to Christ and are therefore not appointed judgment. Had these people given their lives to Christ before the Rapture, they'd have been taken and not left behind.

These people will enter into Christ's millennial reign without glorified bodies in earthly bodies and will populate Christ's earthly Kingdom. If all who were alive were Raptured at the Last Day at the Last Trumpet as so many misinterpret, there would be no one to populate the earth during Christ's millennial reign.

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OP, would Rapture and Tribulation go against the teachings of Jesus, which is for us to have love, compassion, forgiveness, unity, and love for our enemies?

And what about the parable of the Prodigal Son?

Putting aside the Bible and scriptures for a moment, as a human being are you okay with watching nonbelievers being annihilated or tortured for eternity in fire while the “chosen ones” get to go to paradise?

Maybe, just maybe, the caring and compassionate God does not judge to reward or punish like what we do here.

And perhaps the depth and immensity of God’s pure love for each of us is way beyond what we could ever do or comprehend. Instead of destroying us for misbehaving, the caring and compassionate God will always lovingly nurture and patiently guide us back onto the path to love when we veered off it from free will exploration or not knowing any better yet.

Isn’t that the God we would want who always got our backs while we struggle to learn to grow up spiritually in an evil prevalent young world, instead of a god who angers easily and in vengeance will smite us for misbehaving?

The concept of Rapture and Tribulation greatly under estimates God’s pure unconditional love for us.

Conditional love, judgement, vengeance, punishment, torture, and destruction are what we do. Not God.

The chaos and evilness in this world are from lack of love and compassion. Help make this world a better place by doing our best to leave this world better than when we came through love and compassion.

When do do, God will have “tears of joy” seeing we are finally growing up to be more able to treat each other better, instead of deceiving, harming, and killing one another for selfish gains.

All the best!

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No, the Rapture and Tribulation do not go against the teachings of Christ as both the Rapture and Tribulation period also referred to as Jacob's trouble and the final week of Daniel's 70 week prophecy were taught by Jesus as a forewarning of God's coming judgment as well as how to avoid this period of judgment and wrath which will be the worst 7 years on earth. He commanded us to abstain from willful sin, keep Watch and to not grieve or quench the Holy Spirit which He alluded to in the parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins where He says to keep our vessels full of oil (the Holy Spirit) and encourages us to pray to be counted worthy to Escape in the Rapture. Jesus warns of what is ahead and why God's judgment will befall mankind and He clearly provides provisions on how to Escape.


The Parable of the Prodigal Son is an example of how God will always accept a person back into His family regardless of the person's sins if that person will truly turn to Him. The message of this parable is fully turning to God as the prodigal son returned to his father. Regardless of a sinner's past, God is always there to welcome back the prodigal son and has a feast prepared and a party awaiting with a robe of righteousness for all who give up the vanity and fruitlessness of this world and simply turn to Him.


God is beyond caring and compassionate and He shows this through His son who is the image of Him and who He gave to us all as a free gift to atone for our sin. Refusing the Father's precious gift who is Son results in His judgment and wrath and eternal separation from Him. God is caring, compassionate, and loving. He also judges those who refuse His son with wrath. The problem today with most of humanity is they do not fear God in any capacity hence the levels of crime that will only increase.


The Rapture and Tribulation do not greatly underestimate God's love for us. Both are perfectly just and must take place. Those who are in Christ have given their lives to Jesus and will be rescued. They've taken to heart God's warnings and have within them the Holy Spirit by whom they are sealed.

Those who will endure the Tribulation refuse God and because of, must undergo judgment. They will not change on their own and this time period is one last chance for unbelievers to finally turn to God before scripture is fulfilled and Christ's earthly reign begins. Both the Rapture and the 7-year Tribulation are just and will happen (very soon) so prophesy may be fulfilled.




What you've done above is concocted a picture of God that is not Biblical but rather how you'd prefer to view God. The Bible refers to this as idolatry.

There are children of God and children of the devil. God is the Father of His children, Satan is the father of his children. This is clearly stated in scripture. God's love is immeasurable for those in Christ Jesus, God's wrath remains on those who refuse His gift which is His Son and His finished work for us all on the cross. The consequences are eternal and your soul is eternal meaning God breathed His essence of life into you to give you a soul and to give you life and He cannot destroy Himself.

People are eternal and their soul will not die. Either you spend eternity with God who is your creator or apart from Him which is hell and then the Lake of fire at the Great White Throne Judgment. Your soul never dies and the gift is free and your debt paid for through Christ to avoid separation from God. All God asks of a person is to admit they're a sinner and to realize what Jesus did for them and what He saved them from and they will be saved (Romans 10:9). Refusal of this free gift of God results in eternal suffering. Jesus has already paid our ticket, accept His gift and be at pure peace in Him.

Jesus described two distinct comings of Himself to the world by his own mouth.



Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it.

Luke 17: 20-22



“One of the days of the Son of Man” is a direct indication of more than one return which is confirmed by the rest of the scripture following this passage where He describes His return during the Rapture being as in the Days of Noah where one woman is taken and the other left followed immediately with 'Likewise' and His description of Lot being rescued in a day from God's judgment which will resemble the Rapture of the bride of Christ. Those is Jesus Christ sealed will be rescued and this is a scriptural promise from God.

Jesus also describes His Final appearance at the end of the 7-year Tribulation as well where He comes in judgment to establish His earthly millennial reign by likening His return as lightning which cross-references (Matthew 24:27, Matthew 28:3, Luke 17:24) as well as His mentioning of eagles gathered which foreshadows the Great Supper of God (Revelation 19:17) where the birds will feast on the dead of the defeated armies of Satan at the end of this age upon Christ's Final appearing.

The Beast and His Armies Defeated

Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, “Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, both small and great.”
Revelation 19: 17-18

For wheresoever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
Matthew 24:28






The rest of the passage in Luke mentioned above reads below-




Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.

And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

“In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. Remember Lot’s wife. Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.”

And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?”

So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.”

Luke 17: 20-37

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Please at least quote some particular instances. Or is it just easier for you to sling out baseless charges?

I believe that those who subscribe to the teaching of a rapture do so because

#1: They are indoctrinated to believe it because of the teachings of the churches who teach it (never mind that it is a relatively NEW teaching)

#2: They are lazy, scared Christians who do NOT want to go through any type of "tribulation" and see the doctrine of the rapture as a sort of "get out of jail free" card.


I - personally - DO NOT BELIEVE there will be a rapture. The scripture isn't clear enough to convince me. Added to the above 2 reasons, that is my thinking.


Call me all the names you want to. I am a thinking, rational Bible-studying Christian and I have been taught both ways, but my OWN rational brain tells me the above 2 are reasons why anyone would choose to believe in a rapture of saints out.


Finally, let me point out that it would IMPOSSIBLE, LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for *ANYONE* to be saved once the Christians (and the "Restrainer - aka Holy Spirit) leave this earth.

So why would God continue to torture people if they could NOT have a chance to come to accept His Salvation (which, of course we CAN NEVER DO without the aid of the Holy Spirit opening our eyes and hearts to it). So, if the Holy Spirit is GONE, NONE would be able to be saved.

God would not prolong the agony of suffering. Just have Judgement Day and be done with it.

A new kingdom and a new earth. And no thing that defileth will be allowed in.

You cannot let sin into the new kingdom or sin will destroy the new kingdom as well. He destroys the unrighteous for the sake of the righteous and the kingdom to come.

And so the king will say to those on his left hand, depart from me ye workers of lawlessness into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

He destroys for the sake of those that keep the law and word. Not simply out of some need to destroy.

The question of the Holy Spirit not being present during the tribulation results from a misunderstanding of 2 Thessalonians 2:7, which reads, “For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.” Right now, prior to the tribulation, one of the ministries of the Holy Spirit is the restraint of evil. In verses 8 and 9, we learn that the restraining power of the Holy Spirit holds back the “lawless one” (Antichrist) so he is not revealed before God wills it. The passage says the Holy Spirit will no longer restrain the growth of evil, but that does not mean He will have no ministry whatsoever.

In Acts 1:4–5, Jesus promises that His disciples would soon be “baptized with the Holy Spirit.” In Acts chapter 2, Jesus’ promise is fulfilled. In verses 38 and 39, it is written that “Peter replied, ‘Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.’”

The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is thus assured for every born-again believer, and nowhere in Scripture is that promise rescinded. Regeneration is the Spirit’s work; without Him, no one is saved. If the Spirit were not present during the tribulation, no one could be saved. But the fact is that a multitude that no one can number is saved during the tribulation (Revelation 7:9–14). Therefore, those who come to Jesus during the tribulation period will also be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Give glory to God for making that provision, because tribulation saints will need the guidance and direction of the Spirit during that troubled time.

Another good reason that the Spirit must be present during the tribulation is that He is omnipresent. Since He is everywhere at all times, He must be in the world during the tribulation.

At some point—only God knows when—the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit will be removed, the Antichrist will be revealed to an unwitting and unsuspecting world, and the tribulation period will begin.

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OP-

To solidify your view of the above verse, could you please reference a scripture that refers to a '7 year Tribulation'?


I'm also interested in why you think 'His elect' does not refer to Born Again Believers, both living and deceased, at His Return.
Who then are 'His elect' in the above verse?



"“When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense"

Right. No troublemakers in the eternity.

Its not two separate events but two separate groups of people. Those eagerly awaiting His return are His virgin bride who remained loyal and were not deceived by the antichrist. Those that worshipped the fake christ will wish for the mountains to fall on them.
Christ comes in as a thief in the night which means UNEXPECTEDLY because the world already thinks He is here (the instead of christ). They won't be too happy when they realize that they've been duped.

His elect does refer to Born Again Believers but these Born Again Believers are those left behind after the pre-tribulation Rapture who've later repented during the 7-year Tribulation which is God's judgment. Because these people choose to give their lives to Christ, they become part of God's Elect. Those who die during the 7-year Tribulation are those under the altar who receive white robes and are told to "rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed" (Revelation 6: 9-11).

Those who take part in the pre-tribulation Rapture will encompass all people who've died and are saved in Christ Jesus who are in Heaven as well as those alive on earth when Christ's bride is removed and the 7-year Tribulation which is God's judgment begins.


As for the term "7-year Tribulation", it is in reference to the last 7 years remaining in Daniel's 70 week prophecy which has yet to be fulfilled and it's God's judgment and wrath. The last 3.5 years when the accuser who is Satan is finally cast out of Heaven for good begins what Jesus referred to as the 'Great Tribulation'.


There are several scriptures that define Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy. This prophesy is alluded to throughout other books of the Old Testament and throughout the New Testament as well.

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

Daniel 9:27

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It is two separate events as I've explained above and scripture clearly defines this fact not once but multiple times in both the Old and New Testament.

You are correct in that there are two separate groups of people. In the first group you have the bride who is Raptured before the 7-year Tribulation begins as those in Christ Jesus are not under judgment or condemnation (Romans 8:1) and not appointed wrath (1 Thess 5:9). The second group are those left behind who give their lives to Christ during the 7-year Tribulation referred to as Tribulation Saints who become God's elect (Revelation 7:9).

As for the bride of Christ, it's scripturally impossible for Christ's bride to undergo the 7-year Tribulation because again, those in Christ sealed by the Holy Spirit are not under condemnation which is judgment and are not appointed wrath.

since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels

2 Thessalonians 1: 6-7

So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

2 Thessalonians 1: 4-5




What does the above scripture say?

Persecutions and tribulations endured by Christ's bride from others is a manifest token for the righteous judgment of God. Christ's church because of patience and faith in suffering is therefore counted worthy of the kingdom of God.






Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Luke 21:36



Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Revelation 3: 10-11

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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In the Book of Isaiah, God reveals to us what the earth will be like during the Millennium.

The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf, the lion and the yearling, and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the cobra’s den, and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

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Are you filled with the knowledge of the Lord?

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In the Book of Matthew, Jesus tells us,

Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

For their hearts have become calloused, they can hardly hear with their ears and they have closed their eyes.

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As a little child, did you ever consider the idea of killing an animal so you could eat it? No you did not, because as a little child your heart was pure. Such a thought would have never entered your mind.

But, since you were taught to eat animals from infancy, by the time you were old enough to understand what you were doing, your heart had accepted what it would have never accepted as an innocent child.

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Have you changed and become like a little child?

Or, does your heart remain calloused?

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In the Book of Revelation, we are told,

In the center around the throne were four Living Creatures and they were covered with eyes in front and in back. The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four Living Creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying,

"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."

And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying,

"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. The nations were angry and your wrath has come."

"The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small — and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

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Do you destroy the earth?

Do you destroy God's Living Creatures?

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In the Book of Revelation, we are told,

The sea gave up the dead that were in it and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire, for nothing impure will ever enter the kingdom of heaven, nor will anyone who does what is shameful (e.g. killing God's Living Creatures and eating them) or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

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On the day of your judgment will Jesus say to you,

"Your name is not in the Book of Life for how could it be since you were a destroyer of life."

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And the man who God had plucked from the multitude to awaken the people to the hour of their great judgment was unable to do so. He looked up to God and said,

"My Father, why has your message been met with such defiance? Can they not see their creator is bringing forth the hour of their judgment?"

And God said,

"Let them reap what they sow. If they choose to sow death, then death they will reap."

If it make you feel good to endure the Great Tribulation as a Christian, have at it.
Me, I’ll await the rapture.
The moment you die you will be raptured.
Either way, your salvation does not depend on which you believe. Funny how all the hate and vitriol comes from the anti-rapturists.

To add to that, the "Rapture" and "Qanon" are the exact same psyop. Both preach the same message..."sit back, do nothing, and the good guys will save you before it gets really bad".

The Rapture is a scriptural promise from God, Qanon are some people behind a keyboard.

A whole lot of that doesn't actually come from Jesus.

Thanks for your explanation, quite clear to me now.

I'd love to take a little time to unpack what you have so generously shared with us.

Let's start with this first section ... about Born Again Believers:

Since Jesus knows every last Believer intimately down through time, why would He 'leave some behind'?

Would He not take the full complement of the Body of Christ at once? The Body is One and is not divisible.

What good would a 'Body of Christ' be with missing body parts? It just seems odd to me that He would act in this manner ...



Those 'left behind' later repent, and although Jesus knows that they will someday come to Him, He still pours out wrath upon them .. His children. Again, seems odd to me that the Lord would deal with His children so ... having foreknowledge of their eventual salvation.



The '7-year Tribulation which is God's judgment' also doesn't seem to make the Comforter in me 'happy'.
He is signaling me internally that something is amiss here.

I am familiar with the 70th Week of Daniel and it's promises; I'm also familiar with God's Judgement.
(The Day of the Lord, Sheep & Goat Judgement, Appraisal of Believer's works, etc.)

However, I have never seen the direct connection in the Word of God between the '7-year Tribulation' (I can't find this '7-year Tribulation' terminology anywhere in the Bible) and God's Judgement(s)/Wrath.

Could you please help me find this term '7-year Tribulation'?

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