What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?

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Actually, he did............

“…the Son gives life to whomever he wishes. The Father judges no one but has given all judgment to the Son, so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father”. (John 5:21-23)

“Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son so that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all people, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him.” (John 17:1-2)

“I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matthew 28:18. See also Luke 10:22.)

“I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.” (John. 10:9)

Please note that, in all these verses, Jesus and only Jesus decides who will be saved. OP does NOT have authority to declare my state of salvation. We are not saved by our own actions, our own faith, our own beliefs, or because we belong to a particular church or denomination. We are saved only because Jesus decides that he will save us. In this context it is important to remember that when God looks at us he looks at our heart:

“The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.” (1 Samuel 16:7)

Jesus is the Way, the truth and the Life and no one finds the Father except through Him..... as he taught us. The Way of Salvation.

For anyone such as OP to claim to have the authority to judge another soul's state of salvation is satanic and hypocritical at best and in fact flies in the face of the very premise she strives to teach.

Jesus said we must be born again of the spirit. One must look deeply to understand what these words mean. We all know it doesn't mean walking down an aisel and saying the sinner's prayer, and living a life according to doctrine of this or that belief system. It means, becoming not of this world..... but living through the spirit, as connected to the Father. And how do we do that? By following the instrutions of the Messiah. Love the Creator with all of your being, and love all creation as you love yourself. By living through the spirit and following these instruction .... we have obtained salvation, and life as one with the Father.

At this point in time, OP has judged me, and others. And as Jesus said, as OP has judged others, so she will also be judged.

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Jesus never once told me I was going to hell, YOU have.

Jesus never once told me I was of the Devil, YOU have.

Jesus never once told me I was deceived, YOU have.

Jesus never once told me I was not saved, YOU have.

Jesus never once spread lies about me, YOU have.

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None of those verses say that you are saved...

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really? you have no faith. NO TRUST in your Messiah. Ok........So, by your consent ~ You choose to stay mired in your hope of being mingled with mankind's indoctrination and programming. but you absolutely must know ~~ it absolutely CANNOT commingle with the trust in Messiah.

^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^ is what today's christianity has done withe Messiah's message.

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really? you have no faith. NO TRUST in your Messiah. Ok........So, by your consent ~ You choose to stay mired in your hope of being mingled with mankind's indoctrination and programming. but you absolutely must know ~~ it absolutely CANNOT commingle with the trust in Messiah.

^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^ is what today's christianity has done withe Messiah's message.

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really? you have no faith. NO TRUST in your Messiah. Ok........So, by your consent ~ You choose to stay mired in your hope of being mingled with mankind's indoctrination and programming. but you absolutely must know ~~ it absolutely CANNOT commingle with the trust in Messiah.

^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^ is what today's christianity has done withe Messiah's message.

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Perhaps this is over your head, but the word "saved" is past tense and the judgement hasn't happened yet.

But have fun making assertions about my faith that 2 comments ago you claimed we didn't have the authority to make...

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Firstly, I'm not making assertions about your faith, nor claims. I am making observations based on what you're saying.

Secondly, you claim that the word "saved" is past tense, but you then use it for a future event.

Thirdly, I worded what I was trying to say in a very awkward manner. It would read a little easier by saying it like this: It appears that faith and trust have been lost and buried in miry mix of manmade indoctrination and its resulting programming.

Fourthly, we are all living our faith as we have received it. You appear to place your faith and trust in the form of hope and promise, whereas I have already claimed my gift of salvation.

Ephesians 1:4

Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.

Blessing to you on your continuing journey and walk with Messiah.

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If you think I used the word "saved" for a future event, then your reading comprehension is extremely poor. And you aren't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes trying to pass off cheap ad hominem attacks as "observations"...I wasn't using "saved" for a future event, I was contrasting it with a future event to illustrate how you are the one who is attempting to tie a past tense verb to a future event when you claim to already have your gift of salvation.

This is where your reading comprehension becomes critical. When I said you aren't saved yet, it's because you aren't saved YET. That's not the same as saying you won't be saved. And although I backed it with plenty of sound Scripture, apparently that wasn't enough for you...so here's some more for you to chew on.

Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (not is saved, shall be saved)

Rom_11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (not is saved, shall be saved)

Eph_2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (here's a good one: you are saved by grace, not you are saved)

Once again, you cannot claim to have experienced what hasn't happened yet, that is as absurd as the "once saved always saved" deception because there are still scenarios where someone can lose the promise of salvation and fall away.

2Pe_2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Master and Saviour Yahshua the Messiah, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 

Mar_3:29  But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 


As for Ephesians 1:4, Paul is addressing the believing church/Israel as he describes the inheritance in verse 11. He is not establishing that you are magically predestined to be saved just because you read the word "us"...again that is absurd to imply. He is describing how the Father predestined a path to salvation for Israel because He loves His people. Big difference.

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If you think I used the word "saved" for a future event, then your reading comprehension is extremely poor. And you aren't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes trying to pass off cheap ad hominem attacks as "observations"...I wasn't using "saved" for a future event, I was contrasting it with a future event to illustrate how you are the one who is attempting to tie a past tense verb to a future event when you claim to already have your gift of salvation.

This is where your reading comprehension becomes critical. When I said you aren't saved yet, it's because you aren't saved YET. That's not the same as saying you won't be saved. And although I backed it with plenty of sound Scripture, apparently that wasn't enough for you...so here's some more for you to chew on.

Rom_10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (not is saved, shall be saved)

Rom_11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (not is saved, shall be saved)

Eph_2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (here's a good one: you are saved by grace, not you are saved)

Once again, you cannot claim to have experienced what hasn't happened yet, that is as absurd as the "once saved always saved" deception because there are still scenarios where someone can lose the promise of salvation and fall away.

2Pe_2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Master and Saviour Yahshua the Messiah, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 

Mar_3:29  But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 


As for Ephesians 1:4, Paul is addressing the believing church/Israel as he describes the inheritance in verse 11. He is not establishing that you are magically predestined to be saved just because you read the word "us"...again that is absurd to imply. He is describing how the Father predestined a path to salvation for Israel because He loves His people. Big difference.

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Thanks for demonstrating the condescending demeanor so prevalent amongst those of your kind.

This is why I said ...... I do not see the loving Savior of humanity in the christian church of today. i don't relate to it........ That is not my Messiah as I know him.

I prefer to use HIS words only, as best we have them today..... which is very fragmented and distorted at best. Still, I choose to go by his words only...... and I don't care about anyone else's opinion and indoctrination of the program.

As for my reading incomprehension..... according to YOU.... when you say I was contrasting it with a future event to illustrate how you are the one who is attempting to tie a past tense verb to a future event when you claim to already have your gift of salvation. maybe you need a better way of articulating because savED is savED and not a state reserved for future judgment.
It already happened. Since time is a delusion and non-existent except in this 3D reality, it's meaningless to attempt to differentiate and segregate. In fact in the quoted phrase I copied from your post, you are saying the exact same thing as I was portraying.

And then you try to teach me your interpretation and understanding of a verse I quoted. Can't you see the fallacy of this program? It's broken! In fact, it never really worked. The reality is, if you can wrap your mind around it...... is you requiring me to accept your "interpretation" of ANY scripture (don't even think it's that, someone told you it) .... is like requiring me to watch and learn from MSM only.

I see now why you and OP get along so well. That doesn't make either of you the sole proprietor of the rights on righteousness.

I would be more interested in hearing stories about how Jesus / YAHshua / Yeshua.............. has brought you love, and how you share that love with others, besides quoting scriptures that you feel you have the copyright of full understanding of.

For instance, the two great instructions given by him. how have they impacted your walk with Messiah?

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Really? At this point I am pretty sure you would argue with a brick wall just to try and fancy yourself.

So you're telling us that judgement day happened and you were saved from the wrath of Yahweh? Guess you jumped on that rapture bandwagon and I missed it. And time is a delusion to you? Yet the Creator put the sun, moon and stars in the sky so we could tell time.

Genesis 1:14 And Elohim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

I honestly don't care what you see in the christian church of today, because it really seems at this point you are just as lost as they are trying to create a messiah for yourself while ignoring the one in the Bible, how he walked and why he came. If you truly choose to go by His words only, then stop making up your own.

You aren't saved yet because nobody has been saved yet. It's that simple, well at least for a kindergartner it is...

1Jn 2:23-25 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

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I feel like you have not read, or considered, anything I've said whatsoever. Which makes me question your agenda......oh, wait. I already know your agenda.

Have you ever heard the concept of the bible being understood in layers? Surface meaning, then a deeper meaning....... then deeper. For those of us who have read the bible more than once, in fact multiple times ........ perceive new revelations each time we read.

Even the he'bra'ic teachings teach this concept.

1- P’shat (pronounced peh-shaht’ – meaning “simple”). Other spellings include P’shat, Peshat.

2 – Remez (pronounced reh-mez’ – meaning “hint”)

3 – D’rash (pronounced deh-rahsh’ also called “Midrash”)

4 – Sod (pronounced sewd or sood – meaning “hidden”)

The four levels of understanding each a layer diving deeper than the last, like onion layers.
Peshat = Literal meaning; the contextual, philological level
Remez = Allegorical meaning; cross-reference to other texts; rational or philosophical level
Derash = Moral or homiletic meaning; aggadic level; midrashic [= interpretation via derash] level
Sod = Mystical or anagogic meaning

oh........ but wait!!! god forbid, satanism has crept in!!! hidden knowledge? What to do...... what to do.....

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I feel like you have not read, or considered, anything I've said whatsoever. Which makes me question your agenda......oh, wait. I already know your agenda.

Have you ever heard the concept of the bible being understood in layers? Surface meaning, then a deeper meaning....... then deeper. For those of us who have read the bible more than once, in fact multiple times ........ perceive new revelations each time we read.

Even the he'bra'ic teachings teach this concept.

1- P’shat (pronounced peh-shaht’ – meaning “simple”). Other spellings include P’shat, Peshat.

2 – Remez (pronounced reh-mez’ – meaning “hint”)

3 – D’rash (pronounced deh-rahsh’ also called “Midrash”)

4 – Sod (pronounced sewd or sood – meaning “hidden”)

The four levels of understanding each a layer diving deeper than the last, like onion layers.
Peshat = Literal meaning; the contextual, philological level
Remez = Allegorical meaning; cross-reference to other texts; rational or philosophical level
Derash = Moral or homiletic meaning; aggadic level; midrashic [= interpretation via derash] level
Sod = Mystical or anagogic meaning

oh........ but wait!!! god forbid, satanism has crept in!!! hidden knowledge? What to do...... what to do.....

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the point being:

we all have different perspectives and understandings of the scriptures. Not one is 100% right..... not one is 100% wrong. We are a tapestry ... weaving the truth of the Creator into one perfect picture....... and we work together to that end. At least........ some of us try.

Time is linear.. GOD is not. To take the bible solely literally is short=selling yourself.