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What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?

 
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"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

A short quote from the above link.

Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.
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The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
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And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
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It doesn't matter how the name sounds in different languages. It matters what it means !
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"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

A short quote from the above link.

Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
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And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992

I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about because names aren't translated, they are transliterated.

Now go find a copy of the 1611 KJV. Jesus doesn't exist in that Bible because the letter J didn't exist until around 1602. It wasn't until 1638 that his name was spelled as Jesus, and much later before it was pronounced like people commonly say it today.
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The issue is significant.
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no it isn't. this rabbi says it's TOTAL BULLSHIT!

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"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

A short quote from the above link.

Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
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"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

A short quote from the above link.

Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
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The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
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The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84335992


The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
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I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
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The 61 % are so misguided

We speak English in America… It is not Yeshua… It is Jesus

We don’t speak Aramaic or Hebrew…. we don’t call Chinese people by their Chinese name in America

You get no brownie points for trying to sound hip

If you speak English his name is Jesus
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Ignorance and pride are still not an excuse. In fact pride in ignorance must rank high in the list of abominable sins.
YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH,
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The issue is significant.
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no it isn't. this rabbi says it's TOTAL BULLSHIT!


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Lol. It takes committed effort to be profane in print. So as you claim to be unsaved . Your opinion is invalid for the purpose of this thread and the adults discussing the issue/s
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His name will be Emanuel
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First of all, who is Israel?
Who was sold into slavery of his children?
start there...
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Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
The Name Of The Messiah Is ARON born on 07 September 1982,which is the Avatar of ( Messiah, Jesus, Kalki, Shiva, Vishnu, Buddha and so on, for all religions or Aliens ) he will make the first appearance or it will be revealed by few people or by a whole from his bloodline or by his people on 07 September 2021 when he will have 39 years. He was born in Europe. Read everything for details:
The date of birth and the name of the Messiah were discovered.
Aron in J. Gematria equals: = 171
Biblical Ending in J. Gematria: = 171
1+7+1 = 9 the month September
Emissary Of God in J. Gematria: = Alexandru Aron = 822 ... '82 it will be the year when he was born and 2 is the day of Tuesday.
Alexandru in J. Gematria: = 651
Great Reincarnation in J. Gematria = 651
Final Trumpet in J. Gematria = 651

Alexandru is the Romanian Latin variant of the Greek name Alexandros, meaning "Defender of Mankind." The name is most famously associated with Alexander the Great, 4th-century BCE king of Macedonia in Greece, and one of history's most powerful military commanders.

So again His name and surname decoding started with A.
In the Sefer Yetzirah, the letter aleph is king over breath, formed air in the universe, temperate in the year, and the chest in the soul.
Aleph is also the first letter of the nope word emet &(), which means truth. In J. mythology, it was the letter aleph that was carved into the head of the golem that ultimately gave it life.
Aleph also begins the three words that make up God's mystical name in Exodus, I Am who I Am (in nope, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), and aleph is an important part of mystical amulets and formulas.
In Egyptian, Aron means “warrior” (from Egyptian “” = fight/battle).
Aron means “exalted” or “of the mountains” (from nope “” = exalted/high mountain).
The name Aron means Teaching, Singing and is of J. origin. The name means "mountaineer", or "mount of strength".

Those who heed Him are the poor of the flock; they will be saved at the time of visitation. But others will be delivered up to the sword at the coming of the Messiah Aron ...[Damascus document 19.9-11; similar ideas can be found in 19.33-20.1.]

And they shall not depart from any counsel of the law to walk in all the stubbornness of their heart, but they shall be governed by the first ordinances in which the members of the community began their instruction, until the coming of the prophet and the anointed ones Aron [Manual of discipline 9.9b-11.]

Curiously, for those unfamiliar with the Bible, the first prophecies about the Messiah are closely related to the allies of the J., the Dacians ( Romanians Today ) Scythians, and the Hittites. For in antiquity, when they became partakers of the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham, they became equal parts of the COVENANT, with almost identical rights. Only as long as they will be allies of Abraham and his seed, his descendants. Like the J., the Scythians-Dacians (Derzalim-Cherdarim) and Hittites (Chetim) were the first peoples to be notified of the imminent coming of the Messiah the Savior. an absolutely fundamental honor, promptly honored by God. So again the Messiah is a Dacian Warrior comming from Romania to protect the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham that was made long long time ago.

Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap," features in verse one.
The verse follows: "The cities of Aroer are forsaken: They will be for flocks to lie down in and there will be no-one to frighten them… sovereignty will disappear from Damascus and the remnant of Aram."
Theorists believe the extract refers to the levelling of the Syrian capital, ushering in a period of doom.
Tani Shrabel, writing for Endtime magazine, believes Damascus will become the battleground for Armageddon following its demise.

Zechariah 14 is the fourteenth chapter in the Book of Zechariah in the nope Bible or the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. This book contains the prophecies attributed to the prophet Zechariah, and is a part of the Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets.
Also is written in Kalki Purana Prophecies
And by the way
Aron is also a Hindu Boy name and it is Hindi originated name with multiple meanings. Aron name meaning is Exalted One; High Mountain.
Royal Arch of Freemasonry it Shows all the time The Virgo and the Moon plus this has happend 2 times this year ... And also the Masonic compass is in the A Shape... So ARON ... Virgo the Month of birth 7 Masonic and Biblical Number, 9 Same also 1982 ... Again we have 07 September 1982 the bith date ... And 07 September 2021 The Great Apparition 39 Years another Masonic and Biblical Number

So from the Dead Sea Scrolls it is clearly written that his name is Aron ...
And after some calculations as Baba Vanga, Sundar Singh or Eduard Maytreia said and from the calculations in the Bible and Torah he clearly says the date of birth: September 7, 1982 when he was born.
7 Biblical number, and 9 biblical number ... Eduard Maytreia says clearly that he had to be part of the \ "World \" that is to be lost in the world, Messiah born in ROMANIA in Bucharest but lost in the world to be protected from his evils be hidden by those who seek it and have a normal life full of difficulties, ups and downs, plus that power will receive it at 39 years and that the appearance will have up to 39 years 3 + 9 = 12 biblical number. So 2021 ... so most of the Papyri, books and all the documents found at the Dead Sea before they were confiscated by the papacy managed to get some of them online and deciphered.

There are more details to decipher but basically *we know a name and a date*, but we don't know what will be yet ...

Bible, Talmud, Torah, Hindu and Quran scriptures all speak of the same person descending from heavens on a white steed named Jesus/Messiah/Mahdi/Eisa/Isa/Kalki/The Purifier, that will destroy evil, enlighten people and usher in a golden age for humanity.

The Bible describes “when the olive tree (Israel) spreads it’s branches” and the generation when Israel was founded will experience the 2nd coming, thus the 400,000 years is wrong, but there’s a shorter cycle that fits the bill.

Hindu scriptures also says “when Ganges dries up” which has already happened, when women speak bitterly which 3rd wave feminists does, when there are much corruption and sin which is now, all these signs are very clear and has happen thus further indicates the fallacy of 400,000 years is wrong!

Kalki will be the Defender of Man of people, grow up between mountains and seas and rivers wich is probably the most know as Romania that have all these 3 characteristics, Sundar Singh say about Romania and more... ( search about his prediction about Romania )

Baba Vanga
An important prediction for Romania
Just before her death, Vanga recorded on a tape a prediction that she entrusted to one of her grand-daughters. Her desire was that this prediction reaches a certain person, on a certain time that has the mission to acknowledge it to all Romanians. Her explanation was that the Romanians are special people but they no longer trust their own values and if the message comes from a foreigner it will be better seen than if from one of theirs.”
Here is the text of this prediction:
“I am too small for him to come to me, so I bring this news that I was conveyed from Above. Let it be disclosed in January, day 25, year 2005 and within a month let it be taken to the one I will refer herein. If he cannot be reached, give it to people around him. So help you God! - "So here we need to know if HE got the tape?"
To the joy of this world, the one promised to the world will come in Romania. The whole world will rejoice at his birth. God will protect him in a place faraway ( so he is born in Romania but will live far way from his country ) from the place where his ancients lay until his time comes this will be *07 September 2021*. Power from above he shall have. The Earth, Water and Fire will help him. When he comes out in this world, everything that is lie will fall apart. This will happen in 2005. He will be the foundation brick for humankind. The first who will recognize him will be his people ( Romanias ), that he was born in. As a reward, he will lead this people to the height of accomplishment in the entire world. This people will be a real example for all peoples on earth. He shall not ride a real horse, but an iron one that he will drive on his own.”

Bible, Book of Revelation describes “woman clothed with the sun, moon under her feet” which is a celestial arrangement which only happens ca once every 5000 years, and happened in 2017, so it proves the time is near. ( Here we can say that Woman is the Sign of Virgo that means 07 September is the Sign of Virgo also another clue )

Matthew “right after the tribulations are over (Syrian war, maybe others in the middle east) he will come” so it points to ca 2019–2021. ( Here we can say already started Syrian war since long time ago and now as I writed up when Damascus will fall is near )

Nostradamus century 1 quatrain 50
From the three signs ( characteristics ) will be born a man
who will celebrate Tuesday as his feast day. - And again about this ARON Tuesday was on 1982 on 7 September
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East
He will be the Defender of Man of the People.
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The 61 % are so misguided

We speak English in America… It is not Yeshua… It is Jesus

We don’t speak Aramaic or Hebrew…. we don’t call Chinese people by their Chinese name in America

You get no brownie points for trying to sound hip

If you speak English his name is Jesus
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Ignorance and pride are still not an excuse. In fact pride in ignorance must rank high in the list of abominable sins.
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Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
The Name Of The Messiah Is ARON born on 07 September 1982,which is the Avatar of ( Messiah, Jesus, Kalki, Shiva, Vishnu, Buddha and so on, for all religions or Aliens ) he will make the first appearance or it will be revealed by few people or by a whole from his bloodline or by his people on 07 September 2021 when he will have 39 years. He was born in Europe. Read everything for details:
The date of birth and the name of the Messiah were discovered.
Aron in J. Gematria equals: = 171
Biblical Ending in J. Gematria: = 171
1+7+1 = 9 the month September
Emissary Of God in J. Gematria: = Alexandru Aron = 822 ... '82 it will be the year when he was born and 2 is the day of Tuesday.
Alexandru in J. Gematria: = 651
Great Reincarnation in J. Gematria = 651
Final Trumpet in J. Gematria = 651

Alexandru is the Romanian Latin variant of the Greek name Alexandros, meaning "Defender of Mankind." The name is most famously associated with Alexander the Great, 4th-century BCE king of Macedonia in Greece, and one of history's most powerful military commanders.

So again His name and surname decoding started with A.
In the Sefer Yetzirah, the letter aleph is king over breath, formed air in the universe, temperate in the year, and the chest in the soul.
Aleph is also the first letter of the nope word emet &(), which means truth. In J. mythology, it was the letter aleph that was carved into the head of the golem that ultimately gave it life.
Aleph also begins the three words that make up God's mystical name in Exodus, I Am who I Am (in nope, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), and aleph is an important part of mystical amulets and formulas.
In Egyptian, Aron means “warrior” (from Egyptian “” = fight/battle).
Aron means “exalted” or “of the mountains” (from nope “” = exalted/high mountain).
The name Aron means Teaching, Singing and is of J. origin. The name means "mountaineer", or "mount of strength".

Those who heed Him are the poor of the flock; they will be saved at the time of visitation. But others will be delivered up to the sword at the coming of the Messiah Aron ...[Damascus document 19.9-11; similar ideas can be found in 19.33-20.1.]

And they shall not depart from any counsel of the law to walk in all the stubbornness of their heart, but they shall be governed by the first ordinances in which the members of the community began their instruction, until the coming of the prophet and the anointed ones Aron [Manual of discipline 9.9b-11.]

Curiously, for those unfamiliar with the Bible, the first prophecies about the Messiah are closely related to the allies of the J., the Dacians ( Romanians Today ) Scythians, and the Hittites. For in antiquity, when they became partakers of the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham, they became equal parts of the COVENANT, with almost identical rights. Only as long as they will be allies of Abraham and his seed, his descendants. Like the J., the Scythians-Dacians (Derzalim-Cherdarim) and Hittites (Chetim) were the first peoples to be notified of the imminent coming of the Messiah the Savior. an absolutely fundamental honor, promptly honored by God. So again the Messiah is a Dacian Warrior comming from Romania to protect the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham that was made long long time ago.

Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap," features in verse one.
The verse follows: "The cities of Aroer are forsaken: They will be for flocks to lie down in and there will be no-one to frighten them… sovereignty will disappear from Damascus and the remnant of Aram."
Theorists believe the extract refers to the levelling of the Syrian capital, ushering in a period of doom.
Tani Shrabel, writing for Endtime magazine, believes Damascus will become the battleground for Armageddon following its demise.

Zechariah 14 is the fourteenth chapter in the Book of Zechariah in the nope Bible or the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. This book contains the prophecies attributed to the prophet Zechariah, and is a part of the Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets.
Also is written in Kalki Purana Prophecies
And by the way
Aron is also a Hindu Boy name and it is Hindi originated name with multiple meanings. Aron name meaning is Exalted One; High Mountain.
Royal Arch of Freemasonry it Shows all the time The Virgo and the Moon plus this has happend 2 times this year ... And also the Masonic compass is in the A Shape... So ARON ... Virgo the Month of birth 7 Masonic and Biblical Number, 9 Same also 1982 ... Again we have 07 September 1982 the bith date ... And 07 September 2021 The Great Apparition 39 Years another Masonic and Biblical Number

So from the Dead Sea Scrolls it is clearly written that his name is Aron ...
And after some calculations as Baba Vanga, Sundar Singh or Eduard Maytreia said and from the calculations in the Bible and Torah he clearly says the date of birth: September 7, 1982 when he was born.
7 Biblical number, and 9 biblical number ... Eduard Maytreia says clearly that he had to be part of the \ "World \" that is to be lost in the world, Messiah born in ROMANIA in Bucharest but lost in the world to be protected from his evils be hidden by those who seek it and have a normal life full of difficulties, ups and downs, plus that power will receive it at 39 years and that the appearance will have up to 39 years 3 + 9 = 12 biblical number. So 2021 ... so most of the Papyri, books and all the documents found at the Dead Sea before they were confiscated by the papacy managed to get some of them online and deciphered.

There are more details to decipher but basically *we know a name and a date*, but we don't know what will be yet ...

Bible, Talmud, Torah, Hindu and Quran scriptures all speak of the same person descending from heavens on a white steed named Jesus/Messiah/Mahdi/Eisa/Isa/Kalki/The Purifier, that will destroy evil, enlighten people and usher in a golden age for humanity.

The Bible describes “when the olive tree (Israel) spreads it’s branches” and the generation when Israel was founded will experience the 2nd coming, thus the 400,000 years is wrong, but there’s a shorter cycle that fits the bill.

Hindu scriptures also says “when Ganges dries up” which has already happened, when women speak bitterly which 3rd wave feminists does, when there are much corruption and sin which is now, all these signs are very clear and has happen thus further indicates the fallacy of 400,000 years is wrong!

Kalki will be the Defender of Man of people, grow up between mountains and seas and rivers wich is probably the most know as Romania that have all these 3 characteristics, Sundar Singh say about Romania and more... ( search about his prediction about Romania )

Baba Vanga
An important prediction for Romania
Just before her death, Vanga recorded on a tape a prediction that she entrusted to one of her grand-daughters. Her desire was that this prediction reaches a certain person, on a certain time that has the mission to acknowledge it to all Romanians. Her explanation was that the Romanians are special people but they no longer trust their own values and if the message comes from a foreigner it will be better seen than if from one of theirs.”
Here is the text of this prediction:
“I am too small for him to come to me, so I bring this news that I was conveyed from Above. Let it be disclosed in January, day 25, year 2005 and within a month let it be taken to the one I will refer herein. If he cannot be reached, give it to people around him. So help you God! - "So here we need to know if HE got the tape?"
To the joy of this world, the one promised to the world will come in Romania. The whole world will rejoice at his birth. God will protect him in a place faraway ( so he is born in Romania but will live far way from his country ) from the place where his ancients lay until his time comes this will be *07 September 2021*. Power from above he shall have. The Earth, Water and Fire will help him. When he comes out in this world, everything that is lie will fall apart. This will happen in 2005. He will be the foundation brick for humankind. The first who will recognize him will be his people ( Romanias ), that he was born in. As a reward, he will lead this people to the height of accomplishment in the entire world. This people will be a real example for all peoples on earth. He shall not ride a real horse, but an iron one that he will drive on his own.”

Bible, Book of Revelation describes “woman clothed with the sun, moon under her feet” which is a celestial arrangement which only happens ca once every 5000 years, and happened in 2017, so it proves the time is near. ( Here we can say that Woman is the Sign of Virgo that means 07 September is the Sign of Virgo also another clue )

Matthew “right after the tribulations are over (Syrian war, maybe others in the middle east) he will come” so it points to ca 2019–2021. ( Here we can say already started Syrian war since long time ago and now as I writed up when Damascus will fall is near )

Nostradamus century 1 quatrain 50
From the three signs ( characteristics ) will be born a man
who will celebrate Tuesday as his feast day. - And again about this ARON Tuesday was on 1982 on 7 September
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East
He will be the Defender of Man of the People.
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The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar
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And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
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The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
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Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
The Name Of The Messiah Is ARON born on 07 September 1982,which is the Avatar of ( Messiah, Jesus, Kalki, Shiva, Vishnu, Buddha and so on, for all religions or Aliens ) he will make the first appearance or it will be revealed by few people or by a whole from his bloodline or by his people on 07 September 2021 when he will have 39 years. He was born in Europe. Read everything for details:
The date of birth and the name of the Messiah were discovered.
Aron in J. Gematria equals: = 171
Biblical Ending in J. Gematria: = 171
1+7+1 = 9 the month September
Emissary Of God in J. Gematria: = Alexandru Aron = 822 ... '82 it will be the year when he was born and 2 is the day of Tuesday.
Alexandru in J. Gematria: = 651
Great Reincarnation in J. Gematria = 651
Final Trumpet in J. Gematria = 651

Alexandru is the Romanian Latin variant of the Greek name Alexandros, meaning "Defender of Mankind." The name is most famously associated with Alexander the Great, 4th-century BCE king of Macedonia in Greece, and one of history's most powerful military commanders.

So again His name and surname decoding started with A.
In the Sefer Yetzirah, the letter aleph is king over breath, formed air in the universe, temperate in the year, and the chest in the soul.
Aleph is also the first letter of the nope word emet &(), which means truth. In J. mythology, it was the letter aleph that was carved into the head of the golem that ultimately gave it life.
Aleph also begins the three words that make up God's mystical name in Exodus, I Am who I Am (in nope, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), and aleph is an important part of mystical amulets and formulas.
In Egyptian, Aron means “warrior” (from Egyptian “” = fight/battle).
Aron means “exalted” or “of the mountains” (from nope “” = exalted/high mountain).
The name Aron means Teaching, Singing and is of J. origin. The name means "mountaineer", or "mount of strength".

Those who heed Him are the poor of the flock; they will be saved at the time of visitation. But others will be delivered up to the sword at the coming of the Messiah Aron ...[Damascus document 19.9-11; similar ideas can be found in 19.33-20.1.]

And they shall not depart from any counsel of the law to walk in all the stubbornness of their heart, but they shall be governed by the first ordinances in which the members of the community began their instruction, until the coming of the prophet and the anointed ones Aron [Manual of discipline 9.9b-11.]

Curiously, for those unfamiliar with the Bible, the first prophecies about the Messiah are closely related to the allies of the J., the Dacians ( Romanians Today ) Scythians, and the Hittites. For in antiquity, when they became partakers of the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham, they became equal parts of the COVENANT, with almost identical rights. Only as long as they will be allies of Abraham and his seed, his descendants. Like the J., the Scythians-Dacians (Derzalim-Cherdarim) and Hittites (Chetim) were the first peoples to be notified of the imminent coming of the Messiah the Savior. an absolutely fundamental honor, promptly honored by God. So again the Messiah is a Dacian Warrior comming from Romania to protect the Covenant between Yahweh and Abraham that was made long long time ago.

Isaiah The Fall of Damascus
"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap," features in verse one.
The verse follows: "The cities of Aroer are forsaken: They will be for flocks to lie down in and there will be no-one to frighten them… sovereignty will disappear from Damascus and the remnant of Aram."
Theorists believe the extract refers to the levelling of the Syrian capital, ushering in a period of doom.
Tani Shrabel, writing for Endtime magazine, believes Damascus will become the battleground for Armageddon following its demise.

Zechariah 14 is the fourteenth chapter in the Book of Zechariah in the nope Bible or the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. This book contains the prophecies attributed to the prophet Zechariah, and is a part of the Book of the Twelve Minor Prophets.
Also is written in Kalki Purana Prophecies
And by the way
Aron is also a Hindu Boy name and it is Hindi originated name with multiple meanings. Aron name meaning is Exalted One; High Mountain.
Royal Arch of Freemasonry it Shows all the time The Virgo and the Moon plus this has happend 2 times this year ... And also the Masonic compass is in the A Shape... So ARON ... Virgo the Month of birth 7 Masonic and Biblical Number, 9 Same also 1982 ... Again we have 07 September 1982 the bith date ... And 07 September 2021 The Great Apparition 39 Years another Masonic and Biblical Number

So from the Dead Sea Scrolls it is clearly written that his name is Aron ...
And after some calculations as Baba Vanga, Sundar Singh or Eduard Maytreia said and from the calculations in the Bible and Torah he clearly says the date of birth: September 7, 1982 when he was born.
7 Biblical number, and 9 biblical number ... Eduard Maytreia says clearly that he had to be part of the \ "World \" that is to be lost in the world, Messiah born in ROMANIA in Bucharest but lost in the world to be protected from his evils be hidden by those who seek it and have a normal life full of difficulties, ups and downs, plus that power will receive it at 39 years and that the appearance will have up to 39 years 3 + 9 = 12 biblical number. So 2021 ... so most of the Papyri, books and all the documents found at the Dead Sea before they were confiscated by the papacy managed to get some of them online and deciphered.

There are more details to decipher but basically *we know a name and a date*, but we don't know what will be yet ...

Bible, Talmud, Torah, Hindu and Quran scriptures all speak of the same person descending from heavens on a white steed named Jesus/Messiah/Mahdi/Eisa/Isa/Kalki/The Purifier, that will destroy evil, enlighten people and usher in a golden age for humanity.

The Bible describes “when the olive tree (Israel) spreads it’s branches” and the generation when Israel was founded will experience the 2nd coming, thus the 400,000 years is wrong, but there’s a shorter cycle that fits the bill.

Hindu scriptures also says “when Ganges dries up” which has already happened, when women speak bitterly which 3rd wave feminists does, when there are much corruption and sin which is now, all these signs are very clear and has happen thus further indicates the fallacy of 400,000 years is wrong!

Kalki will be the Defender of Man of people, grow up between mountains and seas and rivers wich is probably the most know as Romania that have all these 3 characteristics, Sundar Singh say about Romania and more... ( search about his prediction about Romania )

Baba Vanga
An important prediction for Romania
Just before her death, Vanga recorded on a tape a prediction that she entrusted to one of her grand-daughters. Her desire was that this prediction reaches a certain person, on a certain time that has the mission to acknowledge it to all Romanians. Her explanation was that the Romanians are special people but they no longer trust their own values and if the message comes from a foreigner it will be better seen than if from one of theirs.”
Here is the text of this prediction:
“I am too small for him to come to me, so I bring this news that I was conveyed from Above. Let it be disclosed in January, day 25, year 2005 and within a month let it be taken to the one I will refer herein. If he cannot be reached, give it to people around him. So help you God! - "So here we need to know if HE got the tape?"
To the joy of this world, the one promised to the world will come in Romania. The whole world will rejoice at his birth. God will protect him in a place faraway ( so he is born in Romania but will live far way from his country ) from the place where his ancients lay until his time comes this will be *07 September 2021*. Power from above he shall have. The Earth, Water and Fire will help him. When he comes out in this world, everything that is lie will fall apart. This will happen in 2005. He will be the foundation brick for humankind. The first who will recognize him will be his people ( Romanias ), that he was born in. As a reward, he will lead this people to the height of accomplishment in the entire world. This people will be a real example for all peoples on earth. He shall not ride a real horse, but an iron one that he will drive on his own.”

Bible, Book of Revelation describes “woman clothed with the sun, moon under her feet” which is a celestial arrangement which only happens ca once every 5000 years, and happened in 2017, so it proves the time is near. ( Here we can say that Woman is the Sign of Virgo that means 07 September is the Sign of Virgo also another clue )

Matthew “right after the tribulations are over (Syrian war, maybe others in the middle east) he will come” so it points to ca 2019–2021. ( Here we can say already started Syrian war since long time ago and now as I writed up when Damascus will fall is near )

Nostradamus century 1 quatrain 50
From the three signs ( characteristics ) will be born a man
who will celebrate Tuesday as his feast day. - And again about this ARON Tuesday was on 1982 on 7 September
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East
He will be the Defender of Man of the People.
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And I’m sure there are tons from the 1500s and 1400s with translatable variations
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The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
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And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
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The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
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I'm not really sure why you're picking a bone with me.

So, you're ok with Messiah's name being Jesus? Kinda flies in the face of OP's thread, imo.
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The 1560 Geneva bible has it as Iefus.

My question would be since Jesus and Joshua have are the same in the OT, why did Jesus get changed Jesus, but Joshua remained closer to the original name?

As for transliteration of names, I don't buy that as a reason for Yeshua morphing into Jesus. My name is what it is whether I'm in America, Germany, India.....wherever. My name doesn't change. How people say it may be affected by accents, but the spelling of it remains the same.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
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The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
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And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.

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The spelling of your name does not remain the same when it is transliterated, especially when the destination language has a different alphabet lol

But to answer your question it is because the Masoretic text did not pass through the Greek language.

Joshua was actually confused by translators for Jesus in certain copies of Acts 7:45
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith

I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


I'm not really sure why you're picking a bone with me.

So, you're ok with Messiah's name being Jesus? Kinda flies in the face of OP's thread, imo.
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I'm not picking a bone with you. This is simply a correction.

And the title of the thread is a conditioned question.

WHAT was the Messiah's name, WHEN he was born in Israel?

Reading comprehension is key here...
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I'll go back to my point that my name Susie whether I'm in India, Mexico, Italy or on the moon.

It is spelled S U S I E wherever I am. And for someone as important as the Messiah, I would suggest his name would be honored and respected in its original form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.

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And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.


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ok
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And I'll go back to my point.

How do you spell SUSIE in Russian? Japanese? Hindi?

Hint: it's not spelled the same, and that has nothing to do with respect or honor. It's called linguistics.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.


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good thing you're on it. Thank God!!!

I was just providing real life "transliteration" .......

Not the same.

So! You OK with Jesus being called Jesus? Or do you back OP's contention?
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just for fun though, I will ask my Hindu husband how to say/spell my name in Hindi. I'll report back.

On another note..... in another thread, someone was teaching out the letter J did not exist until like 400 years ago, when that's absolutely not true.

Pretty much all languages as far as I can tell have derived from Sanskrit, including the jabraw. Including Hindi. And Hindi absolutely has a "J" or at least a J sound.

Just a data point.
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Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.


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good thing you're on it. Thank God!!!

I was just providing real life "transliteration" .......

Not the same.

So! You OK with Jesus being called Jesus? Or do you back OP's contention?
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The answer to that question is not simply yes or no, it is conditional. Read this passage of Scripture first:

Exo 20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous El, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Now, I don't have a problem with the Messiah being called Jesus, IF these commandments are not being violated by doing so.

And what is it that you think the OP's contention is?
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Just to come back to this.......for conversation purposes only ~~ I have his name tattooed on my inner wrist. Just his first name. It's in Hindi. Not english letters of hindi pronuciation... but actual Hindi letters. When an Indian sees it, they pronounce his name. And the pronunciation is the same as I have learned to speak it. And the english spelling is that of the sounding of the name as it is pronounced. Is that transliteration? maybe...... but it doesn't explain how Yeshua morphed into Jesus.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.


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good thing you're on it. Thank God!!!

I was just providing real life "transliteration" .......

Not the same.

So! You OK with Jesus being called Jesus? Or do you back OP's contention?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576

The answer to that question is not simply yes or no, it is conditional. Read this passage of Scripture first:

Exo 20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous El, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Now, I don't have a problem with the Messiah being called Jesus, IF these commandments are not being violated by doing so.

And what is it that you think the OP's contention is?
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


I have no idea what OP's contention is except to emphasize his habraic name. For me, it's not a matter of the name, but a matter of the heart. I know who he is for me in my heart. He's always heard me, responded to me.... talked to me in my heart, no matter what "name" i used to cry out to him.
Love your Creator and love others, before self-preservation.
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and whats the force acting on hell(enen) and death (deaeth)? step china.
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the universe exist through force and force alone. and all the facets of HIS? force.
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if the force is stifled it would seek to exist. get it, china.
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Who do you work for?

Dod. Cia. Kabbalists?
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sounds like kabbalah to me. They are the only ones who would know.
Reminds me of the great 'poem' by Leonard Cohen from his book, 'Beautiful Losers'. God is Alive, Magic is Afoot.

Great message for China, you can't stifle the force of the Creator. It will break out.
Loving this post, OP, and I agree with you on the name.
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Re: What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?
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Yahshua/Yeshua is a direct transliteration from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to English

Jesus is the result of multiple transliterations from:
1. Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek
2. Greek to Latin
3. Latin to Old French
4. Old French to Old English
5. Old English to Modern English

I provided this video several pages back, it explains precisely how it happened.


 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


good thing you're on it. Thank God!!!

I was just providing real life "transliteration" .......

Not the same.

So! You OK with Jesus being called Jesus? Or do you back OP's contention?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576

The answer to that question is not simply yes or no, it is conditional. Read this passage of Scripture first:

Exo 20:2 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous El, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain; for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Now, I don't have a problem with the Messiah being called Jesus, IF these commandments are not being violated by doing so.

And what is it that you think the OP's contention is?
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


I have no idea what OP's contention is except to emphasize his habraic name. For me, it's not a matter of the name, but a matter of the heart. I know who he is for me in my heart. He's always heard me, responded to me.... talked to me in my heart, no matter what "name" i used to cry out to him.
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*


God knows your heart and your intention. I got saved calling upon Jesus, but as I grew in knowledge, I began to use His real name. When I pray and use Yeshua Hamaschiak, it just seems more serious, like I got the address right. We are expected to grow with knowledge and not be stubborn when we learn something new. We will be judged for being stubborn.

Now that I know what I know, when I say the name Jesus, I think of that white guy in the painting who is actually Cesare Borgia.





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