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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85284408 Russia 02/14/2023 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a short Soviet scientific film about this. Unfortunately in Russian. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78258345 United States 02/14/2023 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love this expanding earth theory. Here are some thoughts I have had about it. The age of ocean floors being around 130 million years and the extinction of dinosaurs around 150 million years ago. Did the comet meteor that killed the dinosaurs crack the earth like an egg beginning the seafloor spreading process? Check this out from encyclopedia Brittanica. "Seafloor-spreading rates are much more rapid in the Pacific Ocean than in the Atlantic and Indian oceans. At spreading rates of about 15 cm (6 inches) per year, the entire crust beneath the Pacific Ocean (about 15,000 km [9,300 miles] wide) could be produced in 100 million years." Another force for expansion is tidal pushing and pulling along with centrifugal from the spin. Every time a fault opens up like the big one in Turkey a little more space is created and we don't know that the space gets closed up somewhere else maintaining perfect balance. Also think about how crystals grow within the earth. One crystal cavern is not much but all of the crystal caverns over the whole planet shows the interior of the earth grows. Last thing I have thought about is how volcanic pumice is very light and expansive compared to it's density as magma inside the earth. If every time a volcano erupts the magma moves from a state of more density to less density we have another means of Earth getting bigger in volume. The big island in Hawaii is only 300k years old. That is a lot of mass in such a short time. Add that up all over the earth and it's definitely getting bigger. They just invented this idea that it has to recycle back underneath somewhere. There is no evidence of that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78258345 United States 02/14/2023 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crazy to think that the entire Pacific ocean was not there and could have formed in the last 100+ million years. Most Pangea maps show California on one side and China on the other with them not touching. They push South America and Africa together because it's obvious but show China and California as opposite coasts. Here's the problem. Both China and California have Redwood trees and they don't grow anywhere else on earth. So around 100+ million years ago you could walk from China to California in the same Redwood forest. |
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User ID: 82694641 United States 02/14/2023 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love this expanding earth theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78258345 Here are some thoughts I have had about it. The age of ocean floors being around 130 million years and the extinction of dinosaurs around 150 million years ago. Did the comet meteor that killed the dinosaurs crack the earth like an egg beginning the seafloor spreading process? Check this out from encyclopedia Brittanica. "Seafloor-spreading rates are much more rapid in the Pacific Ocean than in the Atlantic and Indian oceans. At spreading rates of about 15 cm (6 inches) per year, the entire crust beneath the Pacific Ocean (about 15,000 km [9,300 miles] wide) could be produced in 100 million years." Another force for expansion is tidal pushing and pulling along with centrifugal from the spin. Every time a fault opens up like the big one in Turkey a little more space is created and we don't know that the space gets closed up somewhere else maintaining perfect balance. Also think about how crystals grow within the earth. One crystal cavern is not much but all of the crystal caverns over the whole planet shows the interior of the earth grows. Last thing I have thought about is how volcanic pumice is very light and expansive compared to it's density as magma inside the earth. If every time a volcano erupts the magma moves from a state of more density to less density we have another means of Earth getting bigger in volume. The big island in Hawaii is only 300k years old. That is a lot of mass in such a short time. Add that up all over the earth and it's definitely getting bigger. They just invented this idea that it has to recycle back underneath somewhere. There is no evidence of that. 1000% agree Somebody gets it And you explained it so plainly Good work :memorybanner: |
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User ID: 85284223 Chile 02/14/2023 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know this because of the position of Earth's monuments. On Equinox the sun rises due east, sets due west, but on the Solstices it rises north of east in the summer and south of east in the winter (northern hemisphere). Equinox's solar serpent at Chichen Itza https://imgur.com/nMGFtUS The Solstice monument alignments are calculated per latitude and an expansion of the Earth's grid would alter the monument's sun/shadow alignments (those days when the sun shines and aligns directly through a doorway or window), for various geological reasons. Stonehenge's solstice alignments https://imgur.com/j3VIXz6 [link to www.english-heritage.org.uk (secure)] This fact negates Charlie Hapsgood's theory about Earth Crust Displacement and places Plate Tectonics in peril. Was the Earth at one time hot and pliable - yes, we know that from 'Pangea'. However, over time Earth cooled and solidified. https://imgur.com/5r4rAE8 Serpent Mound's solar alignments The solstice sun moves along the horizon over a 13,000-year period. The archaic monuments are aligned to the rising and setting solstice sun NOW. That's great engineering and something quite powerful to contemplate for they might not have been built in this exact prior age. Why are they aligned now? https://imgur.com/qT20uAP The clue is the Sun. Last Edited by Humanitarianlike on 02/14/2023 12:36 PM |
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User ID: 78222180 United States 02/14/2023 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genesis 10:25 records the birth of Peleg (meaning division) " for in his days was the earth divided ". Quoting: Highway Star Yep. If the verse is literal, as in the land itself was divided, then we have another historical reference. Since the verse is around the time of the Flood, it could very well be literal. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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User ID: 78222180 United States 02/14/2023 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One day I put cake batter in a hot oven. You would not believe what happened next. After several minutes, it was all expanded and whatnot. I am not kidding! How is that even possible? Obviously I stumbled upon Secret Knowlege. Scientists are truly baffled. Let us see how long this post lasts. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85177970 United States 02/15/2023 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to thank Tx for posting this topic which is something I have been looking at for years already. I have several related ideas (can't prove anything). Smaller diameter earth which is in an orbit closer to the sun. Orbit is smaller diameter => 360 day year (one degree per 24 hours). About the same mass, but a whole lot more water is in the atmosphere. The air density is 2-3 times present density with a higher percentage oxygen. The dinosaur math changes because now they are more buoyant - effectively floating in the denser heavier atmosphere. Those ideas answer problems posed in this video: |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 02/21/2023 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I have let this topic fester in the back of my brain for a week. And I noticed someone restarted another old thread that is sort of on the same topic, so I got reminded to revisit the topic. To summarize what I think happened, and explaining a lot of observations that man has witnessed to date, and the implications on finding other suitable planets to colonize: 1) Assuming the "small Earth" was a real thing, and that the assertions made by the videos are true, that all the land fits neatly together if the size of the Earth is reduced such that there are no oceans on the plant surface... 2) And assuming the core was initially, mostly the element Iron. 3) And assuming the overall mass of the Earth has not changed much, except for the possible loss of some hydrogen gas which escaped the Iron oxidation process, liberating elemental Hydrogen, which would rise to the upper aspects of the atmosphere, where some losses could occur from solar flare activity. 4) So the first big conclusion (there are going to be a lot of them), is that Earth's oceans were not visible above the land initially, or if they were it was as a thin water layer that covered the land explaining the marine fossils that are found everywhere in land that is now 1000 feet or more above sea level. And over time, as the Core oxidized and expanded volumetrically, the solid surface aspects that we live on separated, and the deep fissures that formed became the oceans as the fissures simply opened up enough to reveal the water layer that was previously hidden below. Some water has also been seeping down to the hot core, and slowly, reacted with the Iron over time to form Iron Oxide (exothermic reaction), and has given off free molecular Hydrogen. The Hydrogen easily worked its way to the surface being such a tiny and light diatomic molecule. 5) It is now very easy to see how a Biblical Flood could have occurred. During such changes, the area known to man could easily have been submerged as these colossal movements occurred and then later the land could have "reappeared", observed by the people at the time as the flood "ending". There is nothing that says the oxidation of the core happened symmetrically in 3 dimensions. So a great crack could have allowed water down to the core in certain areas, and not in others, growing the volumetrically bulky iron oxides in certain areas. Depending upon how the rusting process is proceeding, certain areas could seem to lift up from the ocean level, and other areas like the legendary city of Atlantis could have been left behind on the expansion (the core beneath failed to oxidize or did so at a reduced rate). 6) If this happened, The location of mass throughout the Earth should have changed somewhat. Water moved from the surface, and the mass of the Oxygen atoms moved to the central core area. I think this lowers the density of the core, even with the added mass, because the volume expands quite a lot. Someone less lazy than me can run the numbers. This should, over time produce an observable change in the rotational speed of Earth. Like a spinning figure skater, there is conservation of angular momentum. A less dense core, would be like a skater moving their arms outward, resulting in a slowing of the spin rate. In observable terms, we would notice the days getting longer by a slight amount, which would provide a way to determine how much of the process is still happening at the core. Let me post this part in case the computer glitches or something, I don't want to retype this. Continuing... 7) Let's think about Mars as an example of what might be an Earth that has not yet undergone this transformation. Mars could have as much water per unit volume as Earth. Actually it would make sense that most of the planets are made of similar "stuff" as we are in the same proximity, orbiting the same Sun . Mars cannot be readily colonized because it lacks an appreciable atmosphere. Beyond having something to breathe, the atmosphere protects any life from radiation exposure. Perhaps this is a temporary condition. If Mars has the great belt of water below the solid surface, during the transformation period of oxidizing the iron core, and who knows what other reactions happening in the crust and mantle. It would seem reasonable to expect reactions to occur that would liberate vast amounts of Nitrogen and Oxygen. A magnetic field is also required to protect the atmosphere, and supposedly that required a core with a solid and liquid part. So if Mars has not yet formed the 2 phases in the core, perhaps one day it will, and will attain a sustainable atmosphere. By the way, I mentioned the Iron rusting reaction is exothermic, so at a certain temperature, rusting would cease, as the high temperature would stop the exothermic reaction in accordance with Le Chatelier's Principle. We should measure the rate of increase in the Martian day as a clue as to whether this water rusting reaction is occurring at the core of Mars. If the Martian day is not lengthening, then one would surmise that this rusting is not occurring. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/22/2023 12:36 AM Justme |
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User ID: 85148703 United States 02/21/2023 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a problem with his theory of an expanding Earth. Quoting: Bar20 I do have a problem in that he gives no theory as to the mechanism of the expansion. I have heard other theories for an expanding Earth, but this guy offers none. That's only half an theory, in other words, a nothing burger. Still, 5 stars for an interesting, if half-assed video. E=MC2 M=E/C2 (mass= energy divided by the speed of light squared.) The Sun's Energy hits the ionisphere and is channeled into the core of the earth by the magnetic field and mass is created in the center of the earth. The earth receives energy from the sun 24/7/365. What happens to that energy? It's converted to Mass. I think Adams is Spot On. The Expanding earth is fueled by Energy from the sun, plus whatever space dust it picks up as it travels through space. Last Edited by Bennder on 02/22/2023 12:08 AM I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 02/22/2023 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The core is growing faster on 1 side! Indonesia is having the highest growth rate. Brazil, the lowest growth rate. So this could easily account for the recent Eathquake in Turkey and any observed local "heightening" of the land around the Med. Sea. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/22/2023 12:15 AM Justme |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 02/22/2023 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a problem with his theory of an expanding Earth. Quoting: Bar20 I do have a problem in that he gives no theory as to the mechanism of the expansion. I have heard other theories for an expanding Earth, but this guy offers none. That's only half an theory, in other words, a nothing burger. Still, 5 stars for an interesting, if half-assed video. E=MC2 The earth receives energy from the sun 24/7/365. What happens to that energy? It's converted to Mass. I think Adams is Spot On. The Expanding earth is fueled by Energy from the sun, plus whatever space dust it picks up as it travels through space. I don't think the mass is changing appreciably. (yes, some alpha particles from the Sun land on Earth and get "stuck" here). But the volume increase is much more pronounced. If our Mass increased a lot, the year would get a lot longer. (Our orbit would adjust outward, further from the Snn). The energy from the Sun is simply re-radiated for the most part. Reflection being the dominant form during the day, and Black Body radiation always happening. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/22/2023 12:18 AM Justme |
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User ID: 85148703 United States 02/22/2023 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a problem with his theory of an expanding Earth. Quoting: Bar20 I do have a problem in that he gives no theory as to the mechanism of the expansion. I have heard other theories for an expanding Earth, but this guy offers none. That's only half an theory, in other words, a nothing burger. Still, 5 stars for an interesting, if half-assed video. E=MC2 The earth receives energy from the sun 24/7/365. What happens to that energy? It's converted to Mass. I think Adams is Spot On. The Expanding earth is fueled by Energy from the sun, plus whatever space dust it picks up as it travels through space. No. The mass is not changing appreciably. (yes, some alpha particles from the Sun land on Earth and get "stuck" here). But the volume increase is much more pronounced. If our Mass increased a lot, the year would get a lot longer. The energy from the Sun is simply re-radiated for the most part. Reflection being the dominant form during the day, and Black Body radiation always happening. ?? People in the Bible (Genesis) lived many more trips around the sun than we do today. Did the earth travel around the Sun faster back then?(less mass)(CLOSER ORBIT?) Were the years shorter? This is above my paygrade. I can't speak to the mass of the earth over the last 50,000 or more years. Last Edited by Bennder on 02/22/2023 12:18 AM I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 02/22/2023 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a problem with his theory of an expanding Earth. Quoting: Bar20 I do have a problem in that he gives no theory as to the mechanism of the expansion. I have heard other theories for an expanding Earth, but this guy offers none. That's only half an theory, in other words, a nothing burger. Still, 5 stars for an interesting, if half-assed video. E=MC2 The earth receives energy from the sun 24/7/365. What happens to that energy? It's converted to Mass. I think Adams is Spot On. The Expanding earth is fueled by Energy from the sun, plus whatever space dust it picks up as it travels through space. No. The mass is not changing appreciably. (yes, some alpha particles from the Sun land on Earth and get "stuck" here). But the volume increase is much more pronounced. If our Mass increased a lot, the year would get a lot longer. The energy from the Sun is simply re-radiated for the most part. Reflection being the dominant form during the day, and Black Body radiation always happening. ?? People in the Bible (Genesis) lived many more trips around the sun than we do today. Did the earth travel around the Sun faster back then?(less mass)(CLOSER ORBIT?) Were the years shorter? This is above my paygrade. I can't speak to the mass of the earth over the last 50,000 or more years. Interesting. Not sure if the Bible is historically accurate in such details. Hard to say. I wasn't around back then either. :) E=mc^2 is for nuclear reactions. I don't think that is happening with the Sunlight we receive. So heat only moves by Radiation, Conduction and convection. The energy is either reflected or re-radiated from a warmed Earth. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/22/2023 12:27 AM Justme |
Base12
User ID: 78222180 United States 02/22/2023 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neil did some analysis on other planetary bodies. This is what convinced me... @1:19 in the Europa video, Neil said he believes is it 'ongoing eruptive Silicate growth' from the moon's inside. Like a Geode growing. Last Edited by Base12 on 02/22/2023 01:55 PM Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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User ID: 78222180 United States 02/22/2023 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | RIP Neal Adams... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I do not remember GLP making a thread on his passing. Did he take the jab? I wish he could have seen his theories gain more traction. He was 80. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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