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Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere

 
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Wrong.
Some incorrectly call it “God”.
The constraints of the environment are what they are because of natural law.
Period.
Natural law is not a tool.
Please understand this.
Man has nothing to do with it other than trying to mislabel something to fit his narrative. Incorrectly of course…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424463


"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time. If you could comprehend what I wrote that might be more obvious.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


.

Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
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Wrong.
Some incorrectly call it “God”.
The constraints of the environment are what they are because of natural law.
Period.
Natural law is not a tool.
Please understand this.
Man has nothing to do with it other than trying to mislabel something to fit his narrative. Incorrectly of course…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424463


"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


No words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


...


Wrong.
Some incorrectly call it “God”.
The constraints of the environment are what they are because of natural law.
Period.
Natural law is not a tool.
Please understand this.
Man has nothing to do with it other than trying to mislabel something to fit his narrative. Incorrectly of course…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83424463


"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


No words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


No. The Natural Law doesn’t do negotiations and has never done so throughout “time”. You can’t negotiate or try to lawfare with the Natural Law that you live in.
No one cares about you or if you are in agreement with the Natural Law, which is the only true and real definition of our reality and existence.

Those who make excuses like the above poster are simply displaying their inferiority complex in an attempt to create a false dichotomy they can then co-opt to try to then push their “ism”, which is the true intent of the above poster.
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Well, good luck w/ that. I believe the Nature wins at the end of every cycle of humans experimenting with it. And looking forward this planet to become free again ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83842218


Appreciate it but it won't require luck.

We are in the correction now. The survivors will have both opportunity and duty to the truth. No one is going to want this status quo no matter the feels.

I'm not saying the planet is saved. But there will be a remnant.
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It's happened before. It would appear humans as a whole are doomed to keep repeating the same mistakes.

Sanctity of life? What's that?
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I prefer “do no harm,” but pay an equal (and immediate) price when you do so by intent or as a result of gross negligence.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm

 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


No words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


...


"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm

 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


No words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


No. The Natural Law doesn’t do negotiations and has never done so throughout “time”. You can’t negotiate or try to lawfare with the Natural Law that you live in.
No one cares about you or if you are in agreement with the Natural Law, which is the only true and real definition of our reality and existence.

Those who make excuses like the above poster are simply displaying their inferiority complex in an attempt to create a false dichotomy they can then co-opt to try to then push their “ism”, which is the true intent of the above poster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83421058


Do you know what a straw-man is?
Do you understand how foolish and inferior someone looks when they make them?
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Maybe Anubis? Who's heart is lighter than a feather? ...
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glassesoff



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if dogs have a supreme deity i think it must be Anubis

dogs are all Anubis worshipers
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So I guess law of nature and natural law are two VERY different things...

Either that or what you described ain't natural law, at least as I understand it.
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"When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass


A word is just a label. I cannot 'mislabel" anything because words and their meanings are entirely arbitrary. I can tell you what I mean by a term, and you can elaborate on what you mean by one. Then we negotiate alternate terms if we can't agree on the usage of a word. Or at least that is a common civilized approach.

I note that those who think the word denotes reality, and is there for "right" are typically confusing the territory with the map. I further note that most do so because they are trying to hamper communication, not establish it. It is an act of bad faith.

Did you note that you simply disagreed and failed to even engage the point on agency?

Where do you rate your response on this chart?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm

 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The above highlights a fairy routine attempt in academia to thwart any opposing truth by making the idiotic claim that words have no meaning and are therefore null to all discussion while showcasing the idiotic inferiority complex of said poster and displaying a sever schizophrenic insecurity with simply being unequivocally wrong in all facets of the discussion.


lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83221918


words have meaning. But the meaning is negotiated. Always has been the case throughout time. If you could comprehend what I wrote that might be more obvious.

Claiming something is "true" or "real" based on a definition is a fallacy

Providing a definition, agreeing upon it and moving forward using those labels in an abstract discussion to pursue what is "true" or "real" is an academic pursuit. THose who can't engage in such tend to provide nonsense drivel as is seen here.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


.

Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668



I suspect that the group of men with guns who can ALSO practice a form of morality in which each man can trust the other both now and in the future will soon eliminate the groups of men who can't or won't. "Natural Law" is a survival advantage over those who practice "moral relativism." and who therefore cannot be trusted or depended upon.

There is about to be a worldwide demonstration of that fact.
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So I guess law of nature and natural law are two VERY different things...

Either that or what you described ain't natural law, at least as I understand it.
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u understand good....
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One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
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I prefer “do no harm,” but pay an equal (and immediate) price when you do so by intent or as a result of gross negligence.
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Maybe it's not immediate. It could look something like a curse that plagues someone and theirs for generations until somehow the offense is rectified.
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Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
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One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
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Yet it has insidiously infected every aspect of being.
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Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
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This is one thing the MAGA'ts haven't thought out well.
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This might be beyond most glp's abilities to comprehend.
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fill a room with ten females that have children and after observing and listening to them for 5 minutes i can tell you absolutely whose children are f4gs
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
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If you can beat the status quo then you make the rules. Retard.
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Yet it has insidiously infected every aspect of being.
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I reject it. The "god" of all major religions was created in the image of the people , not the other way around. This is why we have a maniac mass murderer psychopath for a sand god
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Societal morals have been very relative. But I think the 10 Commandmewnts are just the most common sense for society not to go the liberal way of Sodom and Gommorah.
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Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


If you can beat the status quo then you make the rules. Retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


As in blow your fool brains out?

cruise

War is the basis for that belief, he who has the biggest bombs and the most bullets has a god that has a bigger dick that your god.
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Societal morals have been very relative. But I think the 10 Commandmewnts are just the most common sense for society not to go the liberal way of Sodom and Gommorah.
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Several of the "ten Commandments" are nonsense and serve no purpose in deciding right and wrong. For instance not making any image of what is in heaven, or worshiping another :god"

NOPE
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Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


If you can beat the status quo then you make the rules. Retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


As in blow your fool brains out?

cruise

War is the basis for that belief, he who has the biggest bombs and the most bullets has a god that has a bigger dick that your god.
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Duh!
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
Rule.303 is, was and will be in effect from now until well into the foreseeable future.

For those who don't know rule.303 it essentially means those with the guns make the rules. Anyone who wants to challenge that? Well. We know how that plays out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


If you can beat the status quo then you make the rules. Retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


Society based on killing each other has no livable future. There is no development under the gun point possible, not to speak of harmony.
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do as thou wilt?
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thats jungle
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That is the life principle of those who provide your government and force you into a narrow corset of rules and laws.
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Of what practical purpose is observing the "sabbath" on a certain day, if I don't believe in your fucked up god?
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Societal morals have been very relative. But I think the 10 Commandmewnts are just the most common sense for society not to go the liberal way of Sodom and Gommorah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83842218


Several of the "ten Commandments" are nonsense and serve no purpose in deciding right and wrong. For instance not making any image of what is in heaven, or worshiping another :god"

NOPE
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I mean the rest of them if you are an atheist.
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
One thing is is crucial to understand is that not only is religious dogma NOT natural law, it is a man made perversion of it.


Religion can and has been used to motivate people to do obviously extremely morally "wrong" things, and claimed it pleased "god".


Religion must NEVER be used to determine what we consider to be right or wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Yet it has insidiously infected every aspect of being.
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I reject it. The "god" of all major religions was created in the image of the people , not the other way around. This is why we have a maniac mass murderer psychopath for a sand god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


.

An image is nothing more than a reflection. Probably not even a good one at that.
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But what happens when I have a gun and you have a gun and we don't agree on the rules, retard?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


If you can beat the status quo then you make the rules. Retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


As in blow your fool brains out?

cruise

War is the basis for that belief, he who has the biggest bombs and the most bullets has a god that has a bigger dick that your god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85291314


Duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78839668


So that is right?

I see.

Religion has warped what little of a mind you have.
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Re: Moral Relativism vs. Natural Law and how does AI interfere
Of what practical purpose is observing the "sabbath" on a certain day, if I don't believe in your fucked up god?
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A day of for everyone, not just some. I live it having the seventh day alone in a world too busy to stop for a day.
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enjoy your freedom fries and yellow cake. If you have any twin towers, hide them from Israel.

Lmao
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Of what practical purpose is observing the "sabbath" on a certain day, if I don't believe in your fucked up god?
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A day of for everyone, not just some. I live it having the seventh day alone in a world too busy to stop for a day.
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I agree that we all need a rest every now and again, just not when your god says I must.





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