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This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points | |
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(OP) User ID: 82694641  United States02/25/2023 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Have fun boys and girls! Quoting: eyeDR3 This is all straight from me. No wiki, all by my memory... Please ask any question you'd like. I'd LOVE to explain anything that might confuse you... 911 was the event the bible explained that "even the elect would be fooled." And it leads to Satan's short lived reign over earth. Tribulation is very soon. We've lived in pretrib for a bit. 2017-2024, 7 years split by peace and evil. Split by 2 solar eclipses that form an X, a mark, over the US US is New Babylon America will be judged very harshly. The rain falls on all. No rapture. Nope, twas a test run for the second coming hoax that'll trap unbaptised or faulty baptised Catholics into the NWO indefinitely in hell on earth or just damned to hell. Christ already came and established His Church around 2000 yrs ago and ain't coming back especially to a world that forgot that He is God Well that's not what he says himself :memorybanner: |
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(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points ***SKIP ALL OF THIS UNTIL THE BULLET POINTS Or First REPLY IF YOU DON'T LIKE LONGER READS.*** Quoting: eyeDR3 Edited to add some of the descriptions are in layman's terms and not exact. A lot of this stuff is very complicated. ... Quoting: eyeDR3 So here's the meat! If you're big brain energy you are here and will understand this next part like the back of your hand. When movies or television were made all the way up to the mid 2000s in most cases, they were recorded with analog technology like film. Film being developed in a manner that creates a WHOLE image (not dot matrix, not pixels, not lines) means there is a LOT of information packed into each individual frame. To film most movies, you would need 24 pictures taken each and every second so as to see motion without "skipping" or "tearing." If you've watched films from the late 1800s into early 1900s you will see what I'm describing manifesting in people looking like they're walking in fast forward because they only took around 5 to 8 images per second. While this gives motion it's still very choppy and noticeable to our brains) disorienting. When you go to a theater most movies are showing in 24p. This is progressive full frame film standard. Today though it still produces a bit of strain in my eyes. If you blink quickly you can see frames! Gosh it's SOOOO much to get to my point I'm terribly sorry... Have you ever thought Jurassic Park looked WAAAAAY better in the theater back in 93 than on your fancy blu ray player? Well the reason is that the CGI which was revolutionary and ground breaking at the time was produced digitally and added into a movie that was FILMED in ANALOG. So what you see is actually a composite image! The film itself is beautiful and natural and is endlessly upscaleable into digital formats because it was a WHOLE image like a film photograph that is being converted into a set resolution digital format (think of dot matrix, printers, any digital display) but the problem was that initial digital display and rendering tech simply didn't have anything near the infinite resolution of ANALOG nor the computational ability to get anywhere close to film. No joke, some movies from the 30s hold up better than movies made a few years ago because there just isn't enough data showing in each frame... LAST LESSON, then SHORT TO THE POINT So you understand that analog is whole, digital is only ever a portion of that whole. Digital is only ever trying to catch up to analog, just as is the case with music, but it LITERALLY CANNOT. Easy analogy... Pluck an acoustic guitar string and what you hear is analog. A true smooth frequency. You run it through a digital amplifier or a recording device, and you are only capturing a certain portion of that whole. The smooth natural analog music waves look more like staircases at this point. There are tons of missing data! mp3 was the worst standard and sounds like asshole but it made it easy for people to throw 1000 songs on a device smaller than a stick of gum. Try that with your vinyl collection! (Vinyl is analog, true wave recorded music. If you can find a nice horn, that's the way to go! Good luck lol!) Same goes for movies. Reel to reel film is extremely I mean EXTREMELY expensive (more today than then even) but it is analog. It can be blown up to be projected on the clouds above and still have as clear, crisp, whole a picture. Digital CANNOT do this! So Jurassic Park... They took the film into a digital software. I have no idea how many lines of resolution it could render at the time, but no matter, they added in digital graphics of dinosaurs moving at the same frame rate, or the same amount of "pictures" per second. So literally each second of that movie that showed any kind of state of the art imagery using digital graphics, each and every second, would have 24 different representations of the digital model moving like claymation in a sense. 1 second of those long necks when they approach in that jeep had each model moving through 24 differently animated representations. So when they animate the legs moving forward you are seeing actually like 24 different pages in a flip book essentially. Does it make sense that that requires a LOT of digital data? So the digital graphics in that movie probably took up whole data servers of the time. The original film was basically reproduced with the now artificially created digital imagery composed upon it. The resolutions of screens at the time couldn't really pick this up and in theaters you were seeing whole film with a layer of digital imagery overlapping it. So it looked DAMN GOOD back then because when they captured this digital animation they were doing so once again in ANALOG. I know it's so damn much to read and a lot to take in... It's why you shouldn't trust somebody recording video on their device from a screen. If somebody says "I have video of bigfoot!" and they upload a video of them recording another screen, that makes it much harder to see the fakery. It's suspect. To finish up the lesson, and move on the the part people will read because it's short and to the point, let's talk about the huge push from analog to digital. It was around 2007 if I remember right. Digital television was the initial push as they could take the analog signals and repurpose them for emergency personnel secured communications. Videogames, movies and music had moved almost entirely to digital already at this point. TVs were still mostly CRT tech at this point but people were very quickly investing in digital displays like "flat screen" lcd, projection or plasma. These displays again showed images almost like a printer or calculator, with the lines now being compromised of "pixels." So now the resolution would be called something like 720p, 1080i or 1080p. 1080p was not standard until very late 2000s into 2010s. Were you confused when someone says "1080p Blu-ray, with a resolution of 1920x1080!" Well that's 1920x1080 LINES that PROGRESSIVELY show, so it's showing both horizontal and vertical lines of the image with each flash, again 24 to 60 times per second. That's about 2.07 million individual squares made up of sub red green blue rendering spaces called "sub pixels". 6.22 MILLION individual dots or squares that can render an image up to 60x each second! 4K is called so because it's 4x the resolution of 1080p, or nearly. True 4K is not "UHD" because that is a difference in aspect ratio. Standard widescreen is 16:9 ratio. The golden ratio rectangle. It used to be 4:3 or otherwise, or more close to a "square." 4K is actually 21:9 sometimes called "ultra wide" and is 4096x2160 pixels to produce lines. Your at home 4KUHD displays are usually 3840x2160, so 16:9 ratio. True ultrawide displays will fill the screen and you won't have those black bars on top and bottom. My cellphone for instance has a 21:9 aspect ratio. It's a more elongated rectangle, like a Hershey's bar basically. So now your UHD TVs that people are already erroneously being referred to as "4K" are at 3840x2160. They display progressively, or all lines and pixels with each and every flash. This is 8.294 million pixels, with either 24.883 MILLION sub pixels (red green blue), 33.177 MILLION sub pixels (4 sub pixels WRGB so white red green and blue) or "Quantum dot" which is more akin to tricking digital into rendering more like analog than previously. That one I'll get into later. Very very high resolution, yes, but when it's stretched to the size of a billboard or drive in movie theater screen, you will still see a more blurry image as it was produced not as a whole analog image, but a fully digitally produced image. This gives what we call the "screen door" effect because the pixels have to be separated by space. At say a 65" or smaller TV screen, this may not be visible at all except for the best vision on the planet, but any bigger and you start to see that screen door effect (it's called aliasing, it's that stair step jagged appearance you see on hard lines). You simply DO NOT get this with film! So only now are our displays catching up to looking ALMOST as good as those of the past, or close enough to our poor eyesight to look similar to film. This is exactly why modern CGI fest films look like hot dog shit. It's 100% digitally produced when it's supposed to be real. My Dad said the issue with videogames for him was that they were just like a very poorly animated movie. Well movies today produce the uncanny valley effect, where our brains, instincts and the way our eyes see the moving image KNOW IT'S NOT REAL. It can look so close to reality but it's just not. There are always present anomalies in CGI because the added in objects have to track with the real objects and they are fully digitally rendered. So even the highest resolution scan of a human has missing gaps of data where analog would be represented simply as a true wave of light on the VLS. This doesn't even account for color rendering. There were for the LONGEST time about 8-16 million representable colors in standard production using RGB (red green and blue) sub pixels. Now with quantum dot and HDR (high dynamic range) we can produce digitally over 1 billion different colors. I don't know exactly how the visible light spectrum works but I would think it's actually a nearly infinite amount of colors we see above infrared and below ultraviolet to our naked eye. Quantum dot at the moment (you've seen it called QLED or Q something lol) is a new way of displaying color. An electrostatic layer rests over LEDs and sub pixels and when electric signals go through it in very slightly different voltages, it expands or contracts the light ever so slightly so you get red and violet shift, much like looking at stars and knowing which is moving toward or away by the red or violet shift. This can give smaller sub pixels, tighter dpi or ppi (pixels per inch) and an astounding amount of color data. Still not analog though LOL So what does any of this have to do with 911? Final post in this long form is only about that next... -911 was in 2001, when most every recording device and display were ANALOG -at this time, special effects were mostly digital but could also be produced with live action props and models. Star Wars and The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth with David Bowie, even interstellar used what is called "practical" effects because they could be filmed as whole true analog using REAL objects. In other words our brains are still happier with a puppet on screen or models of cities and space craft than with a fully digitally created abomination because it APPEARS REAL TO US. It can be filmed in ANALOG on REAL FILM and under natural, controllable lighting. No pixels. No limited color data. No baked in light rendering. Real motion. -digital productions of imagery are bitmap rasterized, or made of dots, pixels, lines with gaps between them instead of a whole image like analog. They can appear very sharp yes but juxtaposed with real data they look very uncanny or unnatural. Almost "too" real or surreal. -with advanced enough computer graphics technology you could render in digital imagery atop either an analog or digital image, even in "real-time". Today this is entirely possible. That's what they do during football games to render lines on the field, overlays of CGI atop live footage. This is how they achieve "holograms" too is by utilizing highly advanced deep fake like overlay technology while filming an impersonator so in the video you are seeing say Michael Jackson but in reality it's a digital manipulation, live in real time, a deep fake, over a lookalike. If you were right there able to record in person you could catch the fakery in these cases... -tiktok Instagram Snapchat and more are using this tech and calling it "filters." It's recording digital video while at the same time processing digital computer graphics that "track" objects in real time and try to blend in with them as if they were really present. So you can look like a retard chimera puppy too or have stupid fake butterflies flying around your head! Yay! -the aforementioned "filters" are a subcategory of what is actually called AR. PAY ATTENTION. AR is short for "Augmentated Reality" and has been around in the consumer market since AT LEAST 2003 or so from my memory. I recall the Sony PS2 PlayStation 2 system (also a huge pioneer in pushing digital formats like DVD and digital output methods, progressive scan imagery, HD even) had an accessory called the "PlayStation eyetoy" where you set up a camera and could play dancing, surfing, sports and such on screen. Your body was the "filter" so if you outstretched your arms you could "hit" these digital objects and interact with them on screen, almost in real time. Real time CGI. -PlayStation eye was a derivative device, that is it was inspired by preexisting tech already present for years in Japanese arcades and even at Disney parks -2003 when it was released wasn't even 2 years beyond the world trade center attacks but it was YEARS after the technology was already available in consumer approachable areas -If the film of 911 from all the different angles we've been allowed to see had been affected by AR, there should be SOME kind of anomaly: a hiccup in tracking, a slip in feathering the hard edges of the digital image overlapping the analog, frame pacing mismatches, resolution differences... SOMETHING. Guess what? ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE PRESENT IN NEARLY EVERY VIDEO OF 911. -The only surviving footage we have of 911 has been converted from analog to digital by now. I can GUARANTEE anyone you know DOES NOT have footage they took themselves on any device. Video recording devices weren't very prevalent or weildy at that time, and if they were, they were highly expensive and still very slow. We didn't have the ability to whip out a digital camera in an instant let alone live stream. Even the best of the early digital recorders were very slow to boot and save data to digital card formats. By the time somebody hit record, the first, likely even the second plane already hit the building. -don't forget analog recording methods were often not able to be recorded over and if they were, there was likely going to be some errors and things that will slip through. Think of recording over a wedding tape. You could have moments that come in as the wedding and the rest is an episode of cops. Worse you're watching ET with Grandma and grandpa and 80s porn comes on at some point. Oops. -say you're recording the building by happenstance for a documentary at the exact moment the first plane comes in and hits. Yes this is actually more likely than you might want to believe, moreso today than in 2001 by far, but even then with millions at any given second moving around and observing the city of New York, this is believable. However, massive holes form in this story when you realize the footage you are seeing had to be RECORDED from it's original format and device to one that can be shared with others. It wasn't a digital recording. It was analog. Probably VHS or those mini VHS cassettes. It had to be converted and saved. By that time it could've already been heavily manipulated. -in order for AR to work there has to be a reasonably powerful computer behind it as well as a DIGITAL camera. Smartphones became a device that could feasibly deliver AR quite a while ago but now it's very smooth. It was pretty silly and archaic then (still is to me today) -Livestream video could still be manipulated with AR if it is being recorded in ANALOG and shown digitally. I call this the "Jurassic Park" effect, and this is exactly how I believe they can pull off future blue beam and even partly 911 -if a news station was "coming to you LIVE from New York City!" we all know that it wasn't truly live. There might be as little as a few seconds delay, up to even MINUTES. I don't know if you remember but if you called somebody from New York in LA back then, you could have seconds of delay before you'd respond to one another. We were literally slower in so many ways, even our own brains hadn't been conditioned to see things in real time or to even communicate like that. Video calling was just a sci fi dream to us then! Saturday might live was so big because you could see a stage skit show halfway across the world almost like you were in the audience. But remember that multicolored screen and loud beep that would come on if studios lost broadcasting signal capabilities (lost power, inference, emergency broadcast message interjection, etc)? Well that's something they could control manually if need be. To "pull it" or stop a feed say if somebody kills themself, murders, shows nudity, curses... And guess who has control over that? The FCC. -since nothing was truly "live" then, they could take even a few seconds or minutes to have superimposed computer generated imagery or something like augmented reality into the footage. It could've even been practical effects they were using, like they had these computer generated composite planes that could track and overlay even a missile -only somebody that was there THAT DAY that saw with their PHYSICAL EYES could say 100% for sure or not if there were ACTUAL commercial planes that day. Otherwise any footage unfortunately cannot be trusted you guys! -if unreal engine 5 a game development engine computer software today in 2023 looks very nearly photorealistic, let's just say since 1993 the military and the "elite" have had this tech or better. Let's be honest... They've had it FAR FAR FAR longer than that. So on 911 the footage we see could be computer generated, that's entirely possible, or it could have been superimposed practical effects -the media is 1000% involved as are everyone in higher positions. Either they were fooled themselves (even the very elect will be fooled) or directly involved. Either way... They were involved. -FCC chair, who was it then? Are they dead? -how many of the people with original unmanipulated footage are still alive today? How many still have the original footage? Where is it? -how many people died that tried to expose what I've just spent 2 hours explaining? Nope. There were eyewitnesses. I know someone who lived right across from the WTC and she was actually looking out the window and saw the second plane hit the building. She lived in Brooklyn but had a complete and total view of the whole thing. She lived in Brooklyn but could tell it was a commercial plane even though they literally can't fly that fast that low? :memorybanner: |
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(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points ***SKIP ALL OF THIS UNTIL THE BULLET POINTS Or First REPLY IF YOU DON'T LIKE LONGER READS.*** Quoting: eyeDR3 Edited to add some of the descriptions are in layman's terms and not exact. A lot of this stuff is very complicated. ... Quoting: eyeDR3 So here's the meat! If you're big brain energy you are here and will understand this next part like the back of your hand. When movies or television were made all the way up to the mid 2000s in most cases, they were recorded with analog technology like film. Film being developed in a manner that creates a WHOLE image (not dot matrix, not pixels, not lines) means there is a LOT of information packed into each individual frame. To film most movies, you would need 24 pictures taken each and every second so as to see motion without "skipping" or "tearing." If you've watched films from the late 1800s into early 1900s you will see what I'm describing manifesting in people looking like they're walking in fast forward because they only took around 5 to 8 images per second. While this gives motion it's still very choppy and noticeable to our brains) disorienting. When you go to a theater most movies are showing in 24p. This is progressive full frame film standard. Today though it still produces a bit of strain in my eyes. If you blink quickly you can see frames! Gosh it's SOOOO much to get to my point I'm terribly sorry... Have you ever thought Jurassic Park looked WAAAAAY better in the theater back in 93 than on your fancy blu ray player? Well the reason is that the CGI which was revolutionary and ground breaking at the time was produced digitally and added into a movie that was FILMED in ANALOG. So what you see is actually a composite image! The film itself is beautiful and natural and is endlessly upscaleable into digital formats because it was a WHOLE image like a film photograph that is being converted into a set resolution digital format (think of dot matrix, printers, any digital display) but the problem was that initial digital display and rendering tech simply didn't have anything near the infinite resolution of ANALOG nor the computational ability to get anywhere close to film. No joke, some movies from the 30s hold up better than movies made a few years ago because there just isn't enough data showing in each frame... LAST LESSON, then SHORT TO THE POINT So you understand that analog is whole, digital is only ever a portion of that whole. Digital is only ever trying to catch up to analog, just as is the case with music, but it LITERALLY CANNOT. Easy analogy... Pluck an acoustic guitar string and what you hear is analog. A true smooth frequency. You run it through a digital amplifier or a recording device, and you are only capturing a certain portion of that whole. The smooth natural analog music waves look more like staircases at this point. There are tons of missing data! mp3 was the worst standard and sounds like asshole but it made it easy for people to throw 1000 songs on a device smaller than a stick of gum. Try that with your vinyl collection! (Vinyl is analog, true wave recorded music. If you can find a nice horn, that's the way to go! Good luck lol!) Same goes for movies. Reel to reel film is extremely I mean EXTREMELY expensive (more today than then even) but it is analog. It can be blown up to be projected on the clouds above and still have as clear, crisp, whole a picture. Digital CANNOT do this! So Jurassic Park... They took the film into a digital software. I have no idea how many lines of resolution it could render at the time, but no matter, they added in digital graphics of dinosaurs moving at the same frame rate, or the same amount of "pictures" per second. So literally each second of that movie that showed any kind of state of the art imagery using digital graphics, each and every second, would have 24 different representations of the digital model moving like claymation in a sense. 1 second of those long necks when they approach in that jeep had each model moving through 24 differently animated representations. So when they animate the legs moving forward you are seeing actually like 24 different pages in a flip book essentially. Does it make sense that that requires a LOT of digital data? So the digital graphics in that movie probably took up whole data servers of the time. The original film was basically reproduced with the now artificially created digital imagery composed upon it. The resolutions of screens at the time couldn't really pick this up and in theaters you were seeing whole film with a layer of digital imagery overlapping it. So it looked DAMN GOOD back then because when they captured this digital animation they were doing so once again in ANALOG. I know it's so damn much to read and a lot to take in... It's why you shouldn't trust somebody recording video on their device from a screen. If somebody says "I have video of bigfoot!" and they upload a video of them recording another screen, that makes it much harder to see the fakery. It's suspect. To finish up the lesson, and move on the the part people will read because it's short and to the point, let's talk about the huge push from analog to digital. It was around 2007 if I remember right. Digital television was the initial push as they could take the analog signals and repurpose them for emergency personnel secured communications. Videogames, movies and music had moved almost entirely to digital already at this point. TVs were still mostly CRT tech at this point but people were very quickly investing in digital displays like "flat screen" lcd, projection or plasma. These displays again showed images almost like a printer or calculator, with the lines now being compromised of "pixels." So now the resolution would be called something like 720p, 1080i or 1080p. 1080p was not standard until very late 2000s into 2010s. Were you confused when someone says "1080p Blu-ray, with a resolution of 1920x1080!" Well that's 1920x1080 LINES that PROGRESSIVELY show, so it's showing both horizontal and vertical lines of the image with each flash, again 24 to 60 times per second. That's about 2.07 million individual squares made up of sub red green blue rendering spaces called "sub pixels". 6.22 MILLION individual dots or squares that can render an image up to 60x each second! 4K is called so because it's 4x the resolution of 1080p, or nearly. True 4K is not "UHD" because that is a difference in aspect ratio. Standard widescreen is 16:9 ratio. The golden ratio rectangle. It used to be 4:3 or otherwise, or more close to a "square." 4K is actually 21:9 sometimes called "ultra wide" and is 4096x2160 pixels to produce lines. Your at home 4KUHD displays are usually 3840x2160, so 16:9 ratio. True ultrawide displays will fill the screen and you won't have those black bars on top and bottom. My cellphone for instance has a 21:9 aspect ratio. It's a more elongated rectangle, like a Hershey's bar basically. So now your UHD TVs that people are already erroneously being referred to as "4K" are at 3840x2160. They display progressively, or all lines and pixels with each and every flash. This is 8.294 million pixels, with either 24.883 MILLION sub pixels (red green blue), 33.177 MILLION sub pixels (4 sub pixels WRGB so white red green and blue) or "Quantum dot" which is more akin to tricking digital into rendering more like analog than previously. That one I'll get into later. Very very high resolution, yes, but when it's stretched to the size of a billboard or drive in movie theater screen, you will still see a more blurry image as it was produced not as a whole analog image, but a fully digitally produced image. This gives what we call the "screen door" effect because the pixels have to be separated by space. At say a 65" or smaller TV screen, this may not be visible at all except for the best vision on the planet, but any bigger and you start to see that screen door effect (it's called aliasing, it's that stair step jagged appearance you see on hard lines). You simply DO NOT get this with film! So only now are our displays catching up to looking ALMOST as good as those of the past, or close enough to our poor eyesight to look similar to film. This is exactly why modern CGI fest films look like hot dog shit. It's 100% digitally produced when it's supposed to be real. My Dad said the issue with videogames for him was that they were just like a very poorly animated movie. Well movies today produce the uncanny valley effect, where our brains, instincts and the way our eyes see the moving image KNOW IT'S NOT REAL. It can look so close to reality but it's just not. There are always present anomalies in CGI because the added in objects have to track with the real objects and they are fully digitally rendered. So even the highest resolution scan of a human has missing gaps of data where analog would be represented simply as a true wave of light on the VLS. This doesn't even account for color rendering. There were for the LONGEST time about 8-16 million representable colors in standard production using RGB (red green and blue) sub pixels. Now with quantum dot and HDR (high dynamic range) we can produce digitally over 1 billion different colors. I don't know exactly how the visible light spectrum works but I would think it's actually a nearly infinite amount of colors we see above infrared and below ultraviolet to our naked eye. Quantum dot at the moment (you've seen it called QLED or Q something lol) is a new way of displaying color. An electrostatic layer rests over LEDs and sub pixels and when electric signals go through it in very slightly different voltages, it expands or contracts the light ever so slightly so you get red and violet shift, much like looking at stars and knowing which is moving toward or away by the red or violet shift. This can give smaller sub pixels, tighter dpi or ppi (pixels per inch) and an astounding amount of color data. Still not analog though LOL So what does any of this have to do with 911? Final post in this long form is only about that next... -911 was in 2001, when most every recording device and display were ANALOG -at this time, special effects were mostly digital but could also be produced with live action props and models. Star Wars and The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth with David Bowie, even interstellar used what is called "practical" effects because they could be filmed as whole true analog using REAL objects. In other words our brains are still happier with a puppet on screen or models of cities and space craft than with a fully digitally created abomination because it APPEARS REAL TO US. It can be filmed in ANALOG on REAL FILM and under natural, controllable lighting. No pixels. No limited color data. No baked in light rendering. Real motion. -digital productions of imagery are bitmap rasterized, or made of dots, pixels, lines with gaps between them instead of a whole image like analog. They can appear very sharp yes but juxtaposed with real data they look very uncanny or unnatural. Almost "too" real or surreal. -with advanced enough computer graphics technology you could render in digital imagery atop either an analog or digital image, even in "real-time". Today this is entirely possible. That's what they do during football games to render lines on the field, overlays of CGI atop live footage. This is how they achieve "holograms" too is by utilizing highly advanced deep fake like overlay technology while filming an impersonator so in the video you are seeing say Michael Jackson but in reality it's a digital manipulation, live in real time, a deep fake, over a lookalike. If you were right there able to record in person you could catch the fakery in these cases... -tiktok Instagram Snapchat and more are using this tech and calling it "filters." It's recording digital video while at the same time processing digital computer graphics that "track" objects in real time and try to blend in with them as if they were really present. So you can look like a retard chimera puppy too or have stupid fake butterflies flying around your head! Yay! -the aforementioned "filters" are a subcategory of what is actually called AR. PAY ATTENTION. AR is short for "Augmentated Reality" and has been around in the consumer market since AT LEAST 2003 or so from my memory. I recall the Sony PS2 PlayStation 2 system (also a huge pioneer in pushing digital formats like DVD and digital output methods, progressive scan imagery, HD even) had an accessory called the "PlayStation eyetoy" where you set up a camera and could play dancing, surfing, sports and such on screen. Your body was the "filter" so if you outstretched your arms you could "hit" these digital objects and interact with them on screen, almost in real time. Real time CGI. -PlayStation eye was a derivative device, that is it was inspired by preexisting tech already present for years in Japanese arcades and even at Disney parks -2003 when it was released wasn't even 2 years beyond the world trade center attacks but it was YEARS after the technology was already available in consumer approachable areas -If the film of 911 from all the different angles we've been allowed to see had been affected by AR, there should be SOME kind of anomaly: a hiccup in tracking, a slip in feathering the hard edges of the digital image overlapping the analog, frame pacing mismatches, resolution differences... SOMETHING. Guess what? ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE PRESENT IN NEARLY EVERY VIDEO OF 911. -The only surviving footage we have of 911 has been converted from analog to digital by now. I can GUARANTEE anyone you know DOES NOT have footage they took themselves on any device. Video recording devices weren't very prevalent or weildy at that time, and if they were, they were highly expensive and still very slow. We didn't have the ability to whip out a digital camera in an instant let alone live stream. Even the best of the early digital recorders were very slow to boot and save data to digital card formats. By the time somebody hit record, the first, likely even the second plane already hit the building. -don't forget analog recording methods were often not able to be recorded over and if they were, there was likely going to be some errors and things that will slip through. Think of recording over a wedding tape. You could have moments that come in as the wedding and the rest is an episode of cops. Worse you're watching ET with Grandma and grandpa and 80s porn comes on at some point. Oops. -say you're recording the building by happenstance for a documentary at the exact moment the first plane comes in and hits. Yes this is actually more likely than you might want to believe, moreso today than in 2001 by far, but even then with millions at any given second moving around and observing the city of New York, this is believable. However, massive holes form in this story when you realize the footage you are seeing had to be RECORDED from it's original format and device to one that can be shared with others. It wasn't a digital recording. It was analog. Probably VHS or those mini VHS cassettes. It had to be converted and saved. By that time it could've already been heavily manipulated. -in order for AR to work there has to be a reasonably powerful computer behind it as well as a DIGITAL camera. Smartphones became a device that could feasibly deliver AR quite a while ago but now it's very smooth. It was pretty silly and archaic then (still is to me today) -Livestream video could still be manipulated with AR if it is being recorded in ANALOG and shown digitally. I call this the "Jurassic Park" effect, and this is exactly how I believe they can pull off future blue beam and even partly 911 -if a news station was "coming to you LIVE from New York City!" we all know that it wasn't truly live. There might be as little as a few seconds delay, up to even MINUTES. I don't know if you remember but if you called somebody from New York in LA back then, you could have seconds of delay before you'd respond to one another. We were literally slower in so many ways, even our own brains hadn't been conditioned to see things in real time or to even communicate like that. Video calling was just a sci fi dream to us then! Saturday might live was so big because you could see a stage skit show halfway across the world almost like you were in the audience. But remember that multicolored screen and loud beep that would come on if studios lost broadcasting signal capabilities (lost power, inference, emergency broadcast message interjection, etc)? Well that's something they could control manually if need be. To "pull it" or stop a feed say if somebody kills themself, murders, shows nudity, curses... And guess who has control over that? The FCC. -since nothing was truly "live" then, they could take even a few seconds or minutes to have superimposed computer generated imagery or something like augmented reality into the footage. It could've even been practical effects they were using, like they had these computer generated composite planes that could track and overlay even a missile -only somebody that was there THAT DAY that saw with their PHYSICAL EYES could say 100% for sure or not if there were ACTUAL commercial planes that day. Otherwise any footage unfortunately cannot be trusted you guys! -if unreal engine 5 a game development engine computer software today in 2023 looks very nearly photorealistic, let's just say since 1993 the military and the "elite" have had this tech or better. Let's be honest... They've had it FAR FAR FAR longer than that. So on 911 the footage we see could be computer generated, that's entirely possible, or it could have been superimposed practical effects -the media is 1000% involved as are everyone in higher positions. Either they were fooled themselves (even the very elect will be fooled) or directly involved. Either way... They were involved. -FCC chair, who was it then? Are they dead? -how many of the people with original unmanipulated footage are still alive today? How many still have the original footage? Where is it? -how many people died that tried to expose what I've just spent 2 hours explaining? Nope. There were eyewitnesses. I know someone who lived right across from the WTC and she was actually looking out the window and saw the second plane hit the building. She lived in Brooklyn but had a complete and total view of the whole thing. Also I believe you've posted in this thread multiple times with different ips. Try using different words and formatting. Try not starting every post with "Nope."  :memorybanner: |
| NotPeople
User ID: 84269142 United States02/25/2023 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points America only exists in a tool they put in your head at birth. It is VR and a full time life experience which you can use to live many lifetimes in your head. They haze and teach life lessons until you are responsible. Don't take it personal. Our lands are still virginal and untouched, our tools feed us. We will wake soon only to be hazed again. Lol. Next time they will only fuck our moms instead of blow up our country. |
| Eireann
User ID: 82958148 United States02/25/2023 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points The OP isn't saying there were no planes that hit the Twin Towers, he's saying they weren't commercial airliners. One thing that has been bugging me for years is a close-up photo I saw of one of the planes that have a package the military uses to remote fly planes used in training exercises. This really is bothersome and I think it's important. I wish I could find the photo, but I seem to have lost it between computer disasters :( Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points I have just one more thing to say on the plane issue. Quoting: Eireann The OP isn't saying there were no planes that hit the Twin Towers, he's saying they weren't commercial airliners. One thing that has been bugging me for years is a close-up photo I saw of one of the planes that have a package the military uses to remote fly planes used in training exercises. This really is bothersome and I think it's important. I wish I could find the photo, but I seem to have lost it between computer disasters :( I know what you're talking about! They were military planes. That's my belief. With some trickery, some even 'live.' :memorybanner: |
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| My Foolish Daydream
User ID: 73398970 United States02/25/2023 08:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points I have just one more thing to say on the plane issue. Quoting: Eireann The OP isn't saying there were no planes that hit the Twin Towers, he's saying they weren't commercial airliners. One thing that has been bugging me for years is a close-up photo I saw of one of the planes that have a package the military uses to remote fly planes used in training exercises. This really is bothersome and I think it's important. I wish I could find the photo, but I seem to have lost it between computer disasters :( I know what you're talking about! They were military planes. That's my belief. With some trickery, some even 'live.' I like to think of these sorts of things as NWO mixed-media. They use the entire toolkit. It's just a bad day, not a bad life. If you run, I will run, until my last breath. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79519223 New Zealand02/25/2023 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Don't worry I think only 2 people actually did and responded. I put A LOT of hard info into that. You CAN skip to just the bullet points. Trust me, I get it. It's literally enough for a chapter in a book. Might be in the end. I read it .......great job man ! I recall "Nose In .....Nose Out"  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43811176  Finland02/25/2023 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points 2. To my eye there is no discrepancy between the different footages. 3. Tracking wasn't that great at that time. Every single handheld footage would have to be manually tracked and that would leave mistakes since manual is never pixel perfect. 4. The helicopter footage and the supposed plane overlay would have to be manually played over the real time footage. The guy is zooming in and out while the plane is flying just before the supposed overlay is played. No way they would use such a risky tactic since manually zooming, if off even by a little bit, would make the plane either miniscule or giant. 5. The tech for tracked real time 3d-models were not in existence back then. I think there was barely any 3D model capabilities in broadcasting software. Only in post production software. You could play an overlay, but I don't recall if they were buffered or not which could mean lag and not real-time feed into the video mix. 6. It would take just one guy filming the towers with their videocamera to show there were no planes. Where is that guy and his footage? Nowhere. So they just got lucky? Did they count on being lucky? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79519223 New Zealand02/25/2023 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Y'all know millions of people were in NYC on a Tuesday morning at rush hour, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74605800 You water down the true lying fuckery (Pentagon & PA) with this horseshit. If you want to focus on NYC, by all means, there's 10x more fuckery there that's real, but this resurgence of no-planes stuff...get the fuck out. The OP was a good read, but slightly a revisionist take on an era in which the author clearly wasn't an adult yet, or even around at all. It's like a 30 year old telling you what the 80s was like. Eyewitness is what I am. Jet fuel and screaming jetliners is what I saw and smelled, and you will never ever get any where with this fucking psyop. Now shove off back to hell whence you came. Jets were used and you OP are trying to impress with a psyop that is so insulting to all of us that were there and saw it and heard it and smelled it. Just stop it now. You are demeaning the over 3000 dead and some of them will come to haunt you mark my words, Chumley. Tree fiddy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83625415 United States02/25/2023 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points The OP is a mile long wall of text about the the technical capabilities of CGI and live video broadcasting.... Now it's being walked back to "No commercial planes"..... So then what would the CGI be used for...? There aren't even any videos clear enuff to make out which airline the 2nd plane was from..... If the whole premise of the operation.was to use real time cgi to fool every1......they would have placed a cameraman where he could get a clear and convincing video showing the plane configuration and markings....same at the pentagon.... They even allowed for the 2nd plane to fly in 15 minutes after the 1st one.....so every1 in a several mile radius would be watching and have a chance to see and possibly film it themselves.... That's why there are only 2 working plans that any1 would ever sign off on..... Either hijack regular airliners and fly them right into the buildings where you rigged explosives and hope they still detonate.... . .. Or build sooped up 757's that are hardened with extreme flight parameters.....with advanced remote flight capability that exceeds the simple fly-by-wire systems available at the time..... Then load them with enuff thermite to melt whichever floors it hits..... Camoflauge them to perfectly match the commercial plane they were to replace..... Swap them out and go pick up passengers..... With the second option....there is no need to worry about what happens after the planes are swapped......You're home free and if anything goes wrong there won't be any evidence left behind with your fingerprints on it......you crash the planes and let first responders pick up the pieces wherever they fall..... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84412018 United States02/25/2023 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points I have just one more thing to say on the plane issue. Quoting: Eireann The OP isn't saying there were no planes that hit the Twin Towers, he's saying they weren't commercial airliners. One thing that has been bugging me for years is a close-up photo I saw of one of the planes that have a package the military uses to remote fly planes used in training exercises. This really is bothersome and I think it's important. I wish I could find the photo, but I seem to have lost it between computer disasters :( I know what you're talking about! They were military planes. That's my belief. With some trickery, some even 'live.' I like to think of these sorts of things as NWO mixed-media. They use the entire toolkit. Yes And on 911 they did a DAMN good job... but not perfect. As with any movie, there are things that slip through the cracks. :memorybanner: |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Don't worry I think only 2 people actually did and responded. I put A LOT of hard info into that. You CAN skip to just the bullet points. Trust me, I get it. It's literally enough for a chapter in a book. Might be in the end. I read it .......great job man ! I recall "Nose In .....Nose Out" Thank you Yeah that was early on but people luckily did read it after awhile. :memorybanner: |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/25/2023 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points 1. Why fake it when you can do it for real? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43811176 2. To my eye there is no discrepancy between the different footages. 3. Tracking wasn't that great at that time. Every single handheld footage would have to be manually tracked and that would leave mistakes since manual is never pixel perfect. 4. The helicopter footage and the supposed plane overlay would have to be manually played over the real time footage. The guy is zooming in and out while the plane is flying just before the supposed overlay is played. No way they would use such a risky tactic since manually zooming, if off even by a little bit, would make the plane either miniscule or giant. 5. The tech for tracked real time 3d-models were not in existence back then. I think there was barely any 3D model capabilities in broadcasting software. Only in post production software. You could play an overlay, but I don't recall if they were buffered or not which could mean lag and not real-time feed into the video mix. 6. It would take just one guy filming the towers with their videocamera to show there were no planes. Where is that guy and his footage? Nowhere. So they just got lucky? Did they count on being lucky? 1. You do both. I covered that. Real loss of life sells it. Otherwise, people would be highly suspicious. Blue Beam might do the same thing. Partial visual trickery atop actual catastrophe and death. 2. There is a TON of different footage and many experts have broken down the anomalies present when the plane hit the south tower. Such things as wingspan, where it struck looking like a bomb went off right before, engines looking like they're in different spots in different videos, no UA design on some of them... There's a TON. 3. We are lead to believe the military is 30+ years ahead of consumer tech which isn't that farfetched. They have a LOT of funding. Remember, everyone that wasn't wealthy had CRT low resoultion, ANALOG, displays. Not digital. So even overlaying a digital image over analog looks better. Go back and look at how Richard was running out of FILM for his camera so he went to stop motion just in time for building 7. Each lapse he took every 6 seconds so in a matter of 6 seconds, building 7 was GONE. He said he couldn't believe his own eyes. 4. Where did they get the footage? What mediums were we using for recording at the time? Start there! I compared this to Jurassic Park, where the movie itself was FILMED and the special effects are added over that DIGITALLY. This actually worked better than full on digital in selling something CGI as realistic. Don't you remember some earlier CG looking almost more convincing than today's? There's a reason for that! They tried to blend it with film to their best ability and it looked more natural and soft. If you were around then, you have to put your mind back in 2001. We didn't have cameras in our phones. If you wanted to film, you basically either carried around a suitcase for High Quality footage and probably on a tripod, or you used a handheld cam corder, which again, at the time wasn't digital. THE ONLY "LIVE" FOOTAGE YOU HAVE SEEN IS FROM NEWS STUDIOS, AND THEY WERE PARTLY IN ON IT. Any other footage took time to show up... even the firefighters footage of the plane hitting the north tower (literally the only footage!) And while they are somewhat convincing videos... watching them today, I can imagine they are not exactly what we're seeing in the video. It's like they had to fabricate all the footage over a short period of time and they slowly trickled it out for YEARS to keep people in this trauma. 5. Most of the videos you will see weren't LIVE. That's very important! They were later acquired videos. The "Live" videos of the news you can literally see them doing old syncing techniques to match up with going on air. So much of the footage wasn't actually "live." And I explained a multitude of times, yes, there was very advanced tech at the time already even if it wasn't in the consumer market. Many people don't know the PS3 sony PlayStation 3 gaming console that released in 2006 had a far more advanced processor than even some brand new high end gaming PCs! Seriously! The CellBE processor made by Sony IBM and Toshiba (STI lol) was unbelievable and I think the US military were actually responsible for Sony shutting down the PS3 Linux capabilities. If you hooked 3 PS3s together, you could have REALTIME ray traced lighting which they had already been capable of doing for movie special effects. So a game console from 2006 got swept up into supercomputing and the US military, namely the Airforce, for secret projects. Thats hilarious and insane. We had the tech. Probably as early as the late 80s when everyone was playing their black and white gameboys and the super low resolution 8 bit NES. Super nintendo 16 bit. N64 64 bit... and on. By the time people get their hands on this tech and it feels like magic to them, it's old news to the US MIC and the elite that orchestrated all of this. 6. There IS one video where you see literally no plane and then the explosion and everyone says the plane came in from behind. Well if it were a commercial airliner, you would've seen it even if it was obfuscated initially by the towers. You would've at least seen the approach. But you don't. Then a huge fireball. There was a few later videos that came out where you DO in fact see the plane approach, BUT IT'S FROM THE WRONG DIRECTION AND WOULDN'T MATCH THE IMPACT ZONE LOL! That was one of the smoking guns! That and the nose of the plane coming out the other side. Where is that nose? Why would an aluminum nose made to collapse stay intact as the plane entered the building as if it were phase shifting? Like a ghost... :memorybanner: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83630167 United States02/25/2023 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points 6. There IS one video where you see literally no plane and then the explosion and everyone says the plane came in from behind. Well if it were a commercial airliner, you would've seen it even if it was obfuscated initially by the towers. You would've at least seen the approach. But you don't. Then a huge fireball. There was a few later videos that came out where you DO in fact see the plane approach, BUT IT'S FROM THE WRONG DIRECTION AND WOULDN'T MATCH THE IMPACT ZONE LOL! Quoting: eyeDR3 We've seen the video.....the plane wasn't approaching from the wrong direction..... 911tards cropped out the few frames that caught the plane and tried to use it for their "no planes" theory.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84964441 United States02/26/2023 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Unless you know people who died. A LOT OF THEM. What a load of disrespectful garbage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59924217 What is disrespectful to the dead is not giving Israel a much needed thermonuclear enema, and getting them out of our government and into prison where they belong.  |
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| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84412018 Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. was he with his dad, your 'uncle?'  Notice the veiled threat? That's a glow up. :memorybanner: |
| beeches
User ID: 78973486 United States02/26/2023 01:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points there is another good thread on this topic, maybe a day ago. nothing was as presented. Thread: NO PLANES: SPECIAL EFFECTS EXPERT COMPLETELY DESTROYS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY! VIDEO COMPOSITES REVEALED Last Edited by beeches on 02/26/2023 01:18 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points there is another good thread on this topic, maybe a day ago. Quoting: beeches nothing was as presented. Thread: NO PLANES: SPECIAL EFFECTS EXPERT COMPLETELY DESTROYS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY! VIDEO COMPOSITES REVEALED Yes I posted the op in that thread actually but it's so long I could understand why people skimmed it. So I started this thread so as to not derail that one unintentionally. I watched basically every video in these threads and I was just astounded! Beeches are you a believer in postponed grief? What I mean by that is not being stuck in denial or anger or whatever... But basically numbing oneself to what you know the truth of because it's just a tough burden to carry. I know I was 9 years old and in elementary school when this happened, but I have a memory that goes all the way to about 8 months. I don't remember being born or anything but I recall being an infant and on. 30 whole years. I bawled watching the videos recorded as it was happening. It's not like I haven't seen it all 100+ times before... But it just really hit me this time. Watching black and white people crying and holding each other, helping each other away, coughing toxic dust they probably had no idea would take their lives in short time... It's truly harrowing. 911 was such a focused and calculated event that I couldn't help think what of the day when it's multiple cities at once? Another theory of mine is that that day was originally supposed to be much much worse. They were planning to blow up the bridges in and out of Manhattan. Could you even imagine? The thousands and thousands of people that swarmed these bridges and piers... That's another thing they showed in the 3rd batman movie by Christopher Nolan. Bane does this to the bridges. Anyway... I felt it was much needed to grieve. It's like these past 3 years I truly haven't had time to! I let it out about my Grandpa too whose final dream was of the 4th horseman coming and the apocalypse hours before he left. Just thinking about A LOT. I'm not a child in elementary anymore. I have full control over my life and my decisions. My intuition is phenomenal. If I am to trust it, it's yelling at me to get back to family... I know you are aware I'm from Indiana and have lived in Colorado for 8 years now. Another weird analogy like we've covered the idea of movies and scripts, special effects and such... This is like one big movie that I've seen before. I don't know how or why. It's like we're reaching the end of this movie. :memorybanner: |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points there is another good thread on this topic, maybe a day ago. Quoting: beeches nothing was as presented. Thread: NO PLANES: SPECIAL EFFECTS EXPERT COMPLETELY DESTROYS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY! VIDEO COMPOSITES REVEALED Yes I posted the op in that thread actually but it's so long I could understand why people skimmed it. So I started this thread so as to not derail that one unintentionally. I watched basically every video in these threads and I was just astounded! Beeches are you a believer in postponed grief? What I mean by that is not being stuck in denial or anger or whatever... But basically numbing oneself to what you know the truth of because it's just a tough burden to carry. I know I was 9 years old and in elementary school when this happened, but I have a memory that goes all the way to about 8 months. I don't remember being born or anything but I recall being an infant and on. 30 whole years. I bawled watching the videos recorded as it was happening. It's not like I haven't seen it all 100+ times before... But it just really hit me this time. Watching black and white people crying and holding each other, helping each other away, coughing toxic dust they probably had no idea would take their lives in short time... It's truly harrowing. 911 was such a focused and calculated event that I couldn't help think what of the day when it's multiple cities at once? Another theory of mine is that that day was originally supposed to be much much worse. They were planning to blow up the bridges in and out of Manhattan. Could you even imagine? The thousands and thousands of people that swarmed these bridges and piers... That's another thing they showed in the 3rd batman movie by Christopher Nolan. Bane does this to the bridges. Anyway... I felt it was much needed to grieve. It's like these past 3 years I truly haven't had time to! I let it out about my Grandpa too whose final dream was of the 4th horseman coming and the apocalypse hours before he left. Just thinking about A LOT. I'm not a child in elementary anymore. I have full control over my life and my decisions. My intuition is phenomenal. If I am to trust it, it's yelling at me to get back to family... I know you are aware I'm from Indiana and have lived in Colorado for 8 years now. Another weird analogy like we've covered the idea of movies and scripts, special effects and such... This is like one big movie that I've seen before. I don't know how or why. It's like we're reaching the end of this movie. Like when you're a kid and they put a movie on for you but you're playing and not really paying attention. You catch these little details, sounds, events over time and you start to understand when it's about to be the end of the movie even if you don't even really know what the movie is about. But you know when it's going to end. Interesting idea about analog vs digital... Analog such as reel to reel or VHS, cassette... You had to physically rotate reels back and forth to find a particular point in a film. Digital you can press a button or a few buttons and you're right where you want to be in the movie. What if time travel is similar in idea? We look at the past as gone and the future not yet here, as if this is a linear path. We're stuck in a VHS reality. What if we could pick a scene? Skip forward or backward whole chapters? So instead of rewinding/resetting the film like reel to reel, we could just go into a scene selection and choose where we want to be. Or just hit skip or reverse whole chapters... So we could slowly reverse time, escalate it, stop it... But I don't think technology can accomplish that. I think it's a godlike ability. My brother and I were saying to each other, why do we feel 100 when we're 30? It's like we've been here many times before... And we both came to the conclusion that we may have lived lives before that we cannot remember, but this is the life that we get to complete our journey in. To be aware of that is quite interesting. It's like I know what I'm supposed to do in this life now and when I pass... I'm gone. :memorybanner: |
| eyeDR3
(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points there is another good thread on this topic, maybe a day ago. Quoting: beeches nothing was as presented. Thread: NO PLANES: SPECIAL EFFECTS EXPERT COMPLETELY DESTROYS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY! VIDEO COMPOSITES REVEALED Yes I posted the op in that thread actually but it's so long I could understand why people skimmed it. So I started this thread so as to not derail that one unintentionally. I watched basically every video in these threads and I was just astounded! Beeches are you a believer in postponed grief? What I mean by that is not being stuck in denial or anger or whatever... But basically numbing oneself to what you know the truth of because it's just a tough burden to carry. I know I was 9 years old and in elementary school when this happened, but I have a memory that goes all the way to about 8 months. I don't remember being born or anything but I recall being an infant and on. 30 whole years. I bawled watching the videos recorded as it was happening. It's not like I haven't seen it all 100+ times before... But it just really hit me this time. Watching black and white people crying and holding each other, helping each other away, coughing toxic dust they probably had no idea would take their lives in short time... It's truly harrowing. 911 was such a focused and calculated event that I couldn't help think what of the day when it's multiple cities at once? Another theory of mine is that that day was originally supposed to be much much worse. They were planning to blow up the bridges in and out of Manhattan. Could you even imagine? The thousands and thousands of people that swarmed these bridges and piers... That's another thing they showed in the 3rd batman movie by Christopher Nolan. Bane does this to the bridges. Anyway... I felt it was much needed to grieve. It's like these past 3 years I truly haven't had time to! I let it out about my Grandpa too whose final dream was of the 4th horseman coming and the apocalypse hours before he left. Just thinking about A LOT. I'm not a child in elementary anymore. I have full control over my life and my decisions. My intuition is phenomenal. If I am to trust it, it's yelling at me to get back to family... I know you are aware I'm from Indiana and have lived in Colorado for 8 years now. Another weird analogy like we've covered the idea of movies and scripts, special effects and such... This is like one big movie that I've seen before. I don't know how or why. It's like we're reaching the end of this movie. Like when you're a kid and they put a movie on for you but you're playing and not really paying attention. You catch these little details, sounds, events over time and you start to understand when it's about to be the end of the movie even if you don't even really know what the movie is about. But you know when it's going to end. Interesting idea about analog vs digital... Analog such as reel to reel or VHS, cassette... You had to physically rotate reels back and forth to find a particular point in a film. Digital you can press a button or a few buttons and you're right where you want to be in the movie. What if time travel is similar in idea? We look at the past as gone and the future not yet here, as if this is a linear path. We're stuck in a VHS reality. What if we could pick a scene? Skip forward or backward whole chapters? So instead of rewinding/resetting the film like reel to reel, we could just go into a scene selection and choose where we want to be. Or just hit skip or reverse whole chapters... So we could slowly reverse time, escalate it, stop it... But I don't think technology can accomplish that. I think it's a godlike ability. My brother and I were saying to each other, why do we feel 100 when we're 30? It's like we've been here many times before... And we both came to the conclusion that we may have lived lives before that we cannot remember, but this is the life that we get to complete our journey in. To be aware of that is quite interesting. It's like I know what I'm supposed to do in this life now and when I pass... I'm gone. Hopefully gone before time travel... I always joked "take me back!" but where would I be? Would I remember today? I don't think so... :memorybanner: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84563337 United States02/26/2023 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84412018 Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. was he with his dad, your 'uncle?' :uncle: No. He was working at Aon at the time. When the order to evacuate finally came, he took a moment to call his mother, my aunt. His last words to her were, "the plane's coming right for us!" Many of his co-workers got out. It was literally the decision to call his mom to allay her fear that cost him his life. Like I said: careful with this crap in real life. People have tried pushing similar bs in my presence. I corrected them. Lots of survivor families around feel the same. Yeah, not everything is a joke tard. |
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(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84412018 Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. was he with his dad, your 'uncle?' No. He was working at Aon at the time. When the order to evacuate finally came, he took a moment to call his mother, my aunt. His last words to her were, "the plane's coming right for us!" Many of his co-workers got out. It was literally the decision to call his mom to allay her fear that cost him his life. Like I said: careful with this crap in real life. People have tried pushing similar bs in my presence. I corrected them. Lots of survivor families around feel the same. Yeah, not everything is a joke tard. What bullshit? Seriously be more clear about what you disagree with. There's enough here for a short book. And before you say it, I never said there were no planes. Never said that. :memorybanner: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84563337 United States02/26/2023 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84412018 Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. was he with his dad, your 'uncle?' :uncle: Notice the veiled threat? That's a glow up. No threat, just a warning. The internet is one thing and reality is another. You're playing with fire if you spew this bs in reality, especially in the NYC metro area. |
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(OP) User ID: 82694641 United States02/26/2023 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This is how 911 might've been visually manipulated in realtime. Scientific... You decide. VERY long read but synopsis in OP bullet points Sorry to burst this bubble, but my cousin was there. He was an eyewitness to the plane that struck the south tower. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84412018 Careful with this crap bro. Especially in real life. was he with his dad, your 'uncle?' Notice the veiled threat? That's a glow up. No threat, just a warning. The internet is one thing and reality is another. You're playing with fire if you spew this bs in reality, especially in the NYC metro area. You still didn't answer my question. You are lying. Which leads me to believe you're a shill. :memorybanner: |
