We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers

If I could give up those benefits to buy my kids out of the system I would. I personally don't expect the dollar to last till I could collect, much less social security.

I don't begrudge anyone trying to get back what was stolen from them - and while the system allows that - go ahead and do it . But don't pretend you are entitled to that money and don't pretend that you aren't doing it at the expense of others and don't support any politician that will prolong the systems existence. The system is inherently wrong and immoral .

I get paid for that I hope. Where do I apply for my check because so far I have gotten nada. They will pay in Bitcoin or gold right?

Pretty sure the death of Social Security in 2036 was public knowledge and admitted by the Social Security Administration during the Obama presidency. he Death of the dollar has been public knowledge since the collapse in 2008. People are really, really stupid though, dumb enough to believe in the Social Security ponzi scheme even .

Look , I didn't kill and impersonate G. Washington and design DC around a pentagram for nothing. Being German is entirely incidental

No problem. Good luck when they eat your ass too.

You're right. You could be from Norway.

Everything not from USA should be assumed to be working against you in the new world.

Only everyone under the age of 55 is already getting reamed. If you are over 55 and rely on Social Security - perhaps you shouldn't have decide to live off of others like a parasite. You should have learned by the age of 5 that doing so won't win you any friends. ANd in what is coming - you will need friends far more than that check

Just like the old world.

A moral society takes care of those who are sick, disabled, or elderly. God forbid you would get a terrible disease, like cancer. See how long your money would hold out, and your kids money also.

More like everyone under 65 still working you asshole that wants to throw all the needy under the bus.

So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them

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For new retirees it's 2036. Better be investing wisely.

I suspect its much sooner than that. Everyone in in Gex X with a brain understood they had to pay for the selfish boomers retirements AND fund their own, and most planned accordingly.

And you need a good kick in ass right out of that
basement. Now get to work and make money like we
did for our parents and GPs

-Proud Hard Working Vintage '59 Boomer

Read the legislation.

Again, the lack of comprehension and intelligence here is breathtaking. I don't "accept" anything because I'm working and paying... Just like every adult who accepts responsibility for themselves.

I noticed how much your tone and message changed when asked if YOU were going to feed at the trough... such hedging. You're laughable and you have the temerity to question OTHERS' morals, which says everything that anyone needs to know about you.

When you put money in the bank, and it's insured, you know full well that they will be investing it elsewhere. You also know that they're responsible for keeping it safe and handing it back when you withdraw it.

When you sk the bank for that dollar, do you demand proof that it's the same physical dollar? No, you don't, because you know it won't be. You also don't CARE. That's simply how it works.

So you can try to play your silly perspective games but you're not fooling any adults of ANY age or generation. Your anger has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with the fact that unlike when my career began, you're likely going to be working to a hundred if you live that long. Sucks, and I appreciate that it does, but the blame for that doesn't fall on people just doing what they need to and getting back what they give.

Your optics are skewed, you aren't nearly as smart as you believe yourself to be, and this conversation is nothing but a rant by children that want a scapegoat because the current government isn't providing you with the free life you expected.

I've paid, and paid, and there's nothing at all immoral about getting back mine when it's time. Feel free to NOT do so if you have the opportunity... But I somehow suspect that if you actually grow up to live that long that you'll be singing a vastly different song. Heck, anyone paying attention has already heard you humming the tune.




Children.

Do you have car insurance?
Life insurance?
Fire insurance?

I have. Have you? What in that legislation do you think contradicts what I have said?

You understand legislation can be repealed right? Its not a contract.

They have altered benefits and the taxes many times in the past via legislation - what you pay in has nothing to do what what you will get out - if anything . A bankrupt system is , in fact, bankrupt. A worthless currency is , in fact worthless


Did you notice that you didn't even directly address any point I have made. Not one. Know why?

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Nope

A significant proportion of those that PAID IN won’t get anything - they are dead

Neither will their families

And with the jabs killing more of the older generations … well

This gov’t has an incentive to kill off all the beneficiaries

Watch out !

AND there it is... "I, I,. Me..."


Hiding behind false morality while humming that tune. Delicious.

I'll leave you to wallow in your jealousy and terpitude, which is what drove this silly thread to begin with.

Don't forget to start saving!

Dfw d all politicians and socialists n marxists in govmt cities n states

Defund socialists n marxists

Insurance is based on a contract. Social Security is a tax and you aren't legally owed any benefits if the government decides not to pay you. Further insurance covers risks - we all get a old. That isn't a risk. Its a known, very predictable event. Finally insurance is contracted for voluntarily. Social Security is in no way "insurance" - it is a ponzi scheme with mandatory participation that will be bankrupt in less than a decade


Did you notice you rudely failed to address any thing I said directly and instead tried to disingenuously frame the debate in terms of of a non-sequitur: "insurance"

Yes I have life insurance - it pays out a SET amount I
contracted for given a set premium in the even of my death .

Yes I have liability car insurance - it pays out set set amount based on a premium based on a legal contract I consented to provided I am the cause of an accident to cover another person's losses.

Yes I have fire insurance - its a legal contract I consented to that pays out a set amount in the event of a fire I did not cause.

Social security does not have a contract .It is legislation that collects a tax. Benefits and taxes are set by legislation and can be changed at at time without penalty and without my consent. It Iis run as a ponzi schemme using the current generations payments to pay out an older generations claims. Any insurance company operating in this manner would be shut down and the owners would go to jail.

Are you really this stupid?

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You are saying that YOU get to live off of another person at gun point and you think I have a false morality? That I am jealous and greedy when you are literally demanding that other people work for your benefit to satisfy YOUR ideal of morality? Its just so easy to be generous with wealth you have stolen from others isn't it. You think you are virtuous that you are willing harm some to help others. Pathetic.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 03/18/2023 09:41 PM

If you consider it stealing, then you should refuse it.

The theft was done by the government raiding the social security money that people had taken out of their checks. Maybe you should take the moral high ground you espouse,and refuse social security when you are eligible. After all, you say it is stealing other peoples money.

So you agree it is immoral to collect it then? I am not going to argue the morality of my actions with someone who has no morals or standards of their own. Rules for me but not for thee.

Further, I don't consider it stealing - it IS stealing by the common definition of that word. That is the word we use when things are taken from you without your permission. You will note that We the People never gave the federal government a legitimate power to even implement such a system, much less pay for it by forced taxation.

If a politician takes taxes to cover hookers and blow its immoral , correct? So if they misappropriate funds or other reasons that are not within their jurisdiction or grant of power it is ALSO immoral,correct?

Hence running this system is stealing. But then since you apparently have no moral principles other than "give me what I want" I doubt the concept of stealing being wrong is within your grasp. For stealing to be wrong - you would have to acknowledge the other person has rights, and narcissists don't believe that.

As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 03/18/2023 09:44 PM

You have yet to answer the question asked of you several times. Are you going to take social security when you are eligible???

Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.