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We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers

 
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So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


AND there it is... "I, I,. Me..."


Hiding behind false morality while humming that tune. Delicious.

I'll leave you to wallow in your jealousy and terpitude, which is what drove this silly thread to begin with.

Don't forget to start saving!

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penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


You are saying that YOU get to live off of another person at gun point and you think I have a false morality? That I am jealous and greedy when you are literally demanding that other people work for your benefit to satisfy YOUR ideal of morality? Its just so easy to be generous with wealth you have stolen from others isn't it. You think you are virtuous that you are willing harm some to help others. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You have yet to answer the question asked of you several times. Are you going to take social security when you are eligible???
 Quoting: tiger1


I will never be eligible
It will be bankrupt and the dollar destroyed YEARS before I would ever have that opportunity. The question is entirely hypothetical and in a ludicrous way.

And why should I answer your questions when you ignore the ones I put to you? Oh right, because you don't think I deserve such respect- I am just a resource to exploit.


But NO I won't take it. I won't need it because I am not a looser parasite like the people collecting it today

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Some people don't have children to take care of them. The disabled and elderly contributed a chunk of their earnings to Social Security and have every right to collect on it when eligible.
You will be old some day. Are your kids, if you have any, going to take care of you? You will find out, won't you?
 Quoting: tiger1


I am gen X
I knew from Day one that my money was being taken from me NEVER to be returned. I have every "right" to collect it to, correct? Only I won't ever be able to because the system will be bankrupt and the dollar itself worthless. I was forced - at government gunpoint - to pay for these benefits I will never get. That is called theft.

I accordingly took care of my own needs as these old people should have. I have my own wealth and kids who will take care of me.

The money they paid were stolen from them and paid to others. Why should they get to make themselves whole from this theft by stealing from me? They had 40 years to put an end to it , but knowing they would profit and Gen X and later would be screwed - they did nothing. And I should feel sorry for them? Why?

Ponzi Schemes are illegal for a reason and the fat the the government runs one for their own profit ( I am also paying the interest on the SS bonds with my taxes in addition to SS for supposedly myself. )
They knowingly relied upon a system of theft to meet their needs. I am supposed to feel sorry for them? Why should I feel sorry for thieves who plan to met there needs by using other peolpe as their salves?
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


A moral society takes care of those who are sick, disabled, or elderly. God forbid you would get a terrible disease, like cancer. See how long your money would hold out, and your kids money also.
 Quoting: tiger1


So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
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I am gen X
I knew from Day one that my money was being taken from me NEVER to be returned. I have every "right" to collect it to, correct? Only I won't ever be able to because the system will be bankrupt and the dollar itself worthless. I was forced - at government gunpoint - to pay for these benefits I will never get. That is called theft.

I accordingly took care of my own needs as these old people should have. I have my own wealth and kids who will take care of me.

The money they paid were stolen from them and paid to others. Why should they get to make themselves whole from this theft by stealing from me? They had 40 years to put an end to it , but knowing they would profit and Gen X and later would be screwed - they did nothing. And I should feel sorry for them? Why?

Ponzi Schemes are illegal for a reason and the fat the the government runs one for their own profit ( I am also paying the interest on the SS bonds with my taxes in addition to SS for supposedly myself. )
They knowingly relied upon a system of theft to meet their needs. I am supposed to feel sorry for them? Why should I feel sorry for thieves who plan to met there needs by using other peolpe as their salves?
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


A moral society takes care of those who are sick, disabled, or elderly. God forbid you would get a terrible disease, like cancer. See how long your money would hold out, and your kids money also.
 Quoting: tiger1


So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
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At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
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AND there it is... "I, I,. Me..."


Hiding behind false morality while humming that tune. Delicious.

I'll leave you to wallow in your jealousy and terpitude, which is what drove this silly thread to begin with.

Don't forget to start saving!

chuckle

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


You are saying that YOU get to live off of another person at gun point and you think I have a false morality? That I am jealous and greedy when you are literally demanding that other people work for your benefit to satisfy YOUR ideal of morality? Its just so easy to be generous with wealth you have stolen from others isn't it. You think you are virtuous that you are willing harm some to help others. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You have yet to answer the question asked of you several times. Are you going to take social security when you are eligible???
 Quoting: tiger1


I will never be eligible
It will be bankrupt and the dollar destroyed YEARS before I would ever have that opportunity. The question is entirely hypothetical and in a ludicrous way.

And why should I answer your questions when you ignore the ones I put to you? Oh right, because you don't think I deserve such respect- I am just a resource to exploit.


But NO I won't take it. I won't need it because I am not a looser parasite the like people collecting it today
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You are the loser of the century, accusing people collecting their social security retirement of theft. To top it off, you say that people who are disabled don't deserve it either. You might as well throw in social security survivors benefits. After all widows and orphans don't get a right to supposedly "steal" benefits either, correct?
Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!!
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A moral society takes care of those who are sick, disabled, or elderly. God forbid you would get a terrible disease, like cancer. See how long your money would hold out, and your kids money also.
 Quoting: tiger1


So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
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I am gen X
I knew from Day one that my money was being taken from me NEVER to be returned. I have every "right" to collect it to, correct? Only I won't ever be able to because the system will be bankrupt and the dollar itself worthless. I was forced - at government gunpoint - to pay for these benefits I will never get. That is called theft.

I accordingly took care of my own needs as these old people should have. I have my own wealth and kids who will take care of me.

The money they paid were stolen from them and paid to others. Why should they get to make themselves whole from this theft by stealing from me? They had 40 years to put an end to it , but knowing they would profit and Gen X and later would be screwed - they did nothing. And I should feel sorry for them? Why?

Ponzi Schemes are illegal for a reason and the fat the the government runs one for their own profit ( I am also paying the interest on the SS bonds with my taxes in addition to SS for supposedly myself. )
They knowingly relied upon a system of theft to meet their needs. I am supposed to feel sorry for them? Why should I feel sorry for thieves who plan to met there needs by using other peolpe as their salves?
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


A moral society takes care of those who are sick, disabled, or elderly. God forbid you would get a terrible disease, like cancer. See how long your money would hold out, and your kids money also.
 Quoting: tiger1


So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
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No,they attain t a position of advantage over others and Claim is a moral high ground. Nothing could be further form the truth , because we all know bankers , lawyers and politicians are lying when their mouth is moving.

I have been living in America for well over 200 Years now and served as President of the United States ... I am really no longer a German.
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So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


If you support your community around you in deeds then you may or may not be left behind in your old age, but at least you will have supported the system that was most likely to help you.
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We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


If you support your community around you in deeds then you may or may not be left behind in your old age, but at least you will have supported the system that was most likely to help you.
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If that is your only goal as stated in your last post...
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So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356



So the end justify the means? Okay. Distinguish your mortality from that of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. They all thought they were fighting the good fight. They all felt their ends justified the means.

Moral people don't use coercion and violence - victimizing some to help others so they can pretend to be virtuous while making no real sacrifice of their own. You aren't fooling anyone. Charity is voluntary. Living of the work of others by force is slavery. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two should frighten you.
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So If I get sick I should come and steal from you to pay my bills? You don't get to claim the moral high ground while advocating theft or that the ends justify the means. Neither is moral . You are only proving you are an immoral person unfit to live in a moral society. It is moral to help others for sure but only if it is done voluntarily. Of course, collectivists see other people as resources - not as people, so the idea of voluntary charity is far, far beyond their understanding. Collectivism is , after all, simply politically expressed narcissism. And your "moral" collectivist society - has already made it perfectly clear I am on my own in my old age because there will be no money and no system for me. All ponzi schemes end this way and only immoral people propose them
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


The theft was done by the government raiding the social security money that people had taken out of their checks. Maybe you should take the moral high ground you espouse,and refuse social security when you are eligible. After all, you say it is stealing other peoples money.
 Quoting: tiger1


As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
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I have been living in America for well over 200 Years now and served as President of the United States ... I am really no longer a German.


Spitting the water... out of my mouth. You don't say? Do tell us more.
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You are saying that YOU get to live off of another person at gun point and you think I have a false morality? That I am jealous and greedy when you are literally demanding that other people work for your benefit to satisfy YOUR ideal of morality? Its just so easy to be generous with wealth you have stolen from others isn't it. You think you are virtuous that you are willing harm some to help others. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You have yet to answer the question asked of you several times. Are you going to take social security when you are eligible???
 Quoting: tiger1


I will never be eligible
It will be bankrupt and the dollar destroyed YEARS before I would ever have that opportunity. The question is entirely hypothetical and in a ludicrous way.

And why should I answer your questions when you ignore the ones I put to you? Oh right, because you don't think I deserve such respect- I am just a resource to exploit.


But NO I won't take it. I won't need it because I am not a looser parasite the like people collecting it today
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You are the loser of the century, accusing people collecting their social security retirement of theft. To top it off, you say that people who are disabled don't deserve it either. You might as well throw in social security survivors benefits. After all widows and orphans don't get a right to supposedly "steal" benefits either, correct?
 Quoting: tiger1



You haven't given any rational explanation as to why it is NOT theft. I have shown very clearly WHY it is theft.
How about you try engaging my argument? How about you try answering MY questions?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm


Show everyone you aren't a moron and respond above level 4.


No one deserves to life off of the efforts of another human being by using force to steal from them or enslave them to their causes. No one.

If you disagree go ahead and make your case.

Otherwise admit that you can't justify your assertions on any rational basis.

Your pathetic emotional appeal is only proving your are not a honest person and not interested in dealing in good faith with anyone else.
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We all know bankers, lawyers, politians, and Germans will always attain the higher moral ground. Just know king of the hill is a game and you can't win forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356



So the end justify the means? Okay. Distinguish your mortality from that of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. They all thought they were fighting the good fight. They all felt their ends justified the means.

Moral people don't use coercion and violence - victimizing some to help others so they can pretend to be virtuous while making no real sacrifice of their own. You aren't fooling anyone. Charity is voluntary. Living of the work of others by force is slavery. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two should frighten you.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

You are mistakenly assuming all those older than you were aware of this rube. Most are still being awakened to it today you asshole know it all.
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The theft was done by the government raiding the social security money that people had taken out of their checks. Maybe you should take the moral high ground you espouse,and refuse social security when you are eligible. After all, you say it is stealing other peoples money.
 Quoting: tiger1


As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
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Another asset paid asshole from Australia that knows nothing about America and the true love Americans have for each other.
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we paid in for 40 yrs..
get a job loser
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hesright
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As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
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Another asset paid asshole from Australia that knows nothing about America and the true love Americans have for each other.
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And the unique history we share as a nation unlike any other tribe nation, we are a nation of many tribes. so go Fuck off with your ideas about our weaknesses.
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Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10624212


Another asset paid asshole from Australia that knows nothing about America and the true love Americans have for each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And the unique history we share as a nation unlike any other tribe nation, we are a nation of many tribes. so go Fuck off with your ideas about our weaknesses.
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They just want us to default so they don't have to pay their loans back.
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At some point a younger one will and should knock you on your ass.
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Many communities for hundreds of years have collected for and sought to the betterment of those less fortunate among them. Stop with your word that mean nothing.
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So the end justify the means? Okay. Distinguish your mortality from that of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. They all thought they were fighting the good fight. They all felt their ends justified the means.

Moral people don't use coercion and violence - victimizing some to help others so they can pretend to be virtuous while making no real sacrifice of their own. You aren't fooling anyone. Charity is voluntary. Living of the work of others by force is slavery. The fact that you can't distinguish between the two should frighten you.
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You are mistakenly assuming all those older than you were aware of this rube. Most are still being awakened to it today you asshole know it all.
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LOL. Okay you got me. I admit that most boomers are selfish, narcissistic people who didn't care enough about their kids to even think about where the money would come from. All of the boomers I know are aware of it - cause I told them. Not that many of them cared when they were made aware either.

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The theft was done by the government raiding the social security money that people had taken out of their checks. Maybe you should take the moral high ground you espouse,and refuse social security when you are eligible. After all, you say it is stealing other peoples money.
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As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
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What I have collected so far on my late husbands record for the past 2 1/2 years, is nowhere near what he put in. As for my benefit, I can't get mine and his. So mine is lost.
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I have been living in America for well over 200 Years now and served as President of the United States ... I am really no longer a German.
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Spitting the water... out of my mouth. You don't say? Do tell us more.


The insane asylum has been emptied, it seems.
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You have yet to answer the question asked of you several times. Are you going to take social security when you are eligible???
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I will never be eligible
It will be bankrupt and the dollar destroyed YEARS before I would ever have that opportunity. The question is entirely hypothetical and in a ludicrous way.

And why should I answer your questions when you ignore the ones I put to you? Oh right, because you don't think I deserve such respect- I am just a resource to exploit.


But NO I won't take it. I won't need it because I am not a looser parasite the like people collecting it today
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You are the loser of the century, accusing people collecting their social security retirement of theft. To top it off, you say that people who are disabled don't deserve it either. You might as well throw in social security survivors benefits. After all widows and orphans don't get a right to supposedly "steal" benefits either, correct?
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You haven't given any rational explanation as to why it is NOT theft. I have shown very clearly WHY it is theft.
How about you try engaging my argument? How about you try answering MY questions?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm


Show everyone you aren't a moron and respond above level 4.


No one deserves to life off of the efforts of another human being by using force to steal from them or enslave them to their causes. No one.

If you disagree go ahead and make your case.

Otherwise admit that you can't justify your assertions on any rational basis.

Your pathetic emotional appeal is only proving your are not a honest person and not interested in dealing in good faith with anyone else.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


I am telling it like I see it, and am calling you out on it.
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I have been living in America for well over 200 Years now and served as President of the United States ... I am really no longer a German.
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Spitting the water... out of my mouth. You don't say? Do tell us more.


My Weisshaupt Moniker is stolen from a member of the Bavarian Illuminati who supposedly took George Washington's place .
When the German origin was noted above, I just played along in character. I do have both German and Norwegian heritage though..
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I will never be eligible
It will be bankrupt and the dollar destroyed YEARS before I would ever have that opportunity. The question is entirely hypothetical and in a ludicrous way.

And why should I answer your questions when you ignore the ones I put to you? Oh right, because you don't think I deserve such respect- I am just a resource to exploit.


But NO I won't take it. I won't need it because I am not a looser parasite the like people collecting it today
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


You are the loser of the century, accusing people collecting their social security retirement of theft. To top it off, you say that people who are disabled don't deserve it either. You might as well throw in social security survivors benefits. After all widows and orphans don't get a right to supposedly "steal" benefits either, correct?
 Quoting: tiger1



You haven't given any rational explanation as to why it is NOT theft. I have shown very clearly WHY it is theft.
How about you try engaging my argument? How about you try answering MY questions?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm


Show everyone you aren't a moron and respond above level 4.


No one deserves to life off of the efforts of another human being by using force to steal from them or enslave them to their causes. No one.

If you disagree go ahead and make your case.

Otherwise admit that you can't justify your assertions on any rational basis.

Your pathetic emotional appeal is only proving your are not a honest person and not interested in dealing in good faith with anyone else.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


I am telling it like I see it, and am calling you out on it.
 Quoting: tiger1


So what level of the pyramid do you think that response put you at?

Seriously if you think your opinion is "just as valid" as mine even though you can't use reason or logic to show mine is wrong and your is right, you are proving my point . This is the thinking of a narcissist.
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You are the loser of the century, accusing people collecting their social security retirement of theft. To top it off, you say that people who are disabled don't deserve it either. You might as well throw in social security survivors benefits. After all widows and orphans don't get a right to supposedly "steal" benefits either, correct?
 Quoting: tiger1



You haven't given any rational explanation as to why it is NOT theft. I have shown very clearly WHY it is theft.
How about you try engaging my argument? How about you try answering MY questions?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm


Show everyone you aren't a moron and respond above level 4.


No one deserves to life off of the efforts of another human being by using force to steal from them or enslave them to their causes. No one.

If you disagree go ahead and make your case.

Otherwise admit that you can't justify your assertions on any rational basis.

Your pathetic emotional appeal is only proving your are not a honest person and not interested in dealing in good faith with anyone else.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


I am telling it like I see it, and am calling you out on it.
 Quoting: tiger1


So what level of the pyramid do you think that response put you at?

Seriously if you think your opinion is "just as valid" as mine even though you can't use reason or logic to show mine is wrong and your is right, you are proving my point . This is the thinking of a narcissist.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your contrived validity is without merit.
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We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
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paycheck

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We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
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No problem. Good luck when they eat your ass too.
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Only everyone under the age of 55 is already getting reamed. If you are over 55 and rely on Social Security - perhaps you shouldn't have decide to live off of others like a parasite. You should have learned by the age of 5 that doing so won't win you any friends. ANd in what is coming - you will need friends far more than that check
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More like everyone under 65 still working you asshole that wants to throw all the needy under the bus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


Are the needy not deserving of help? If so why do you need to use force to help them?

According to SSA the system won't go bankrupt till 2036 or so.
SO people over 55 have a chance to collect SOMETHING before that happens - but nothing like what they put in .
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We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
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paycheck

SUCKERS

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A good laugh before I go to bed ! Thank you !!! hugs
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You haven't given any rational explanation as to why it is NOT theft. I have shown very clearly WHY it is theft.
How about you try engaging my argument? How about you try answering MY questions?

https://imgur.com/vleQUTm


Show everyone you aren't a moron and respond above level 4.


No one deserves to life off of the efforts of another human being by using force to steal from them or enslave them to their causes. No one.

If you disagree go ahead and make your case.

Otherwise admit that you can't justify your assertions on any rational basis.

Your pathetic emotional appeal is only proving your are not a honest person and not interested in dealing in good faith with anyone else.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


I am telling it like I see it, and am calling you out on it.
 Quoting: tiger1


So what level of the pyramid do you think that response put you at?

Seriously if you think your opinion is "just as valid" as mine even though you can't use reason or logic to show mine is wrong and your is right, you are proving my point . This is the thinking of a narcissist.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your contrived validity is without merit.
 Quoting: tiger1


So no. You won't engage with others honestly and in good faith. You won't answer questions put to you in a civil manner. But then why engage in discussion with another human being who is being harmed by your actions - they are just someone to exploit for your own gain and agenda and you have a right to harm them for that reason.

Keep going. Prove it again.
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As I responded to a similar accusation I will not argue the morality of my actions with a someone who has no morality of their own. It is - objectively and empirically - stealing - as it is property taken without permission or consent. But since you see others are mere resources YOU own and can use for your own selfish agenda to advance your personal causes , you see nothing wrong with that .

Fruther the theft began with the first payment - because people who had never paid in got benefits. THat is what its a ponzi scheme. It was made worse by the government stealing funds form the system as well but the entire system is inherently immoral.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Your moral high ground is a sham. You say we steal, but yet you have not answered as to whether you will collect your social security when eligible. I would guess you will, which will make you a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do, seems to be your mantra.
 Quoting: tiger1


You already know the answer 'mer, there will be be no value left in the system when it becomes our turn to receive back. Because we care enough to investigate the system we find ourselves in, we understand that we have been paying others' (ie your's and others like you) while making arrangements for ourselves. This guy has explained that to you numerous times and you ignore it because it is inconvenient to you.

Likewise we care not if the collapse of the system inconveniences you, and your (all 'mers) attitude displayed everywhere all of the time reinforces the point that the collapse of the system that people like you built can't happen soon enough.
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Another asset paid asshole from Australia that knows nothing about America and the true love Americans have for each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


WRONG.

The general awakening is global in scope, parasitical behaviour and attitude is being identified and brought to the fore so that all people can make an informed decision about which side of the line they are on.

The future is about individual self determination and universal altruism.

Which side of the line are YOU on?





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