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We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers

 
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So many butthurt old farts angry that the younger generations have realized the scam they created
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You never benefited from this scam? Butthurt your life is over.
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Your nice easy life up until the now.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
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Boomers built this country and may just be it's savior.
Maybe if Mom kicked you out of her basement, you'd have a better perspecive
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LOL
Ok Boomer


Biden allowed massive increases in government power and spending to implement collectivist programs dooming the entire nation and its currency.
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That's better
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
So many butthurt old farts angry that the younger generations have realized the scam they created
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You never benefited from this scam? Butthurt your life is over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Your nice easy life up until the now.
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That the olders thought they were giving you with their working 2 jobs and buying of houses and all the other shit you never needed.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
we paid in for 40 yrs..
get a job loser
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For 40 years of your work, what you earned doesn't even account for 10% of the money the government will need to spend on you in the future. And saying that you've paid everything off is ridiculous. It’s like you are asking for something worth a thousand dollars after paying only a hundred dollars.


This is socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83539868


At age 55, the last SS statement I got (about 5 months ago), showed that both my employers and myself (since the age of 14 when I started working) have contributed:

Me - $219K
My Employers - $219K

So $438,000, plus I'm still working now and can't even qualify for SS full benefits for another 10 years (age 65).

At age 65, based on today's numbers, I will collect $3,100 per month, or roughly $37,000 per year.

I'd have to collect that amount for 13 years just to recoup what my employers and myself have put into the program, NOT INCLUDING ANY GROWTH OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS!

It's a rip off.

If they offered me all of my money (and my employers contributions) + a retroactive 2% per year interest, then I would cash out.
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Guess you were stupid to pay in,Ukraine
 Quoting: ondrunn


But they won’t make you an offer…it’s always been a pay forward program. All sales are final. No refunds allowed.
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03/18/2023 05:26 PM
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85188299


How about we cut you young M welfare out you bunch of lazy useless eaters
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You know, I am disabled. So is my wife. If we didn't get social security we would die. We get just barely enough to survive. There is zero extra to save or plan for. I am getting sick of people like you wanting to make my life even harder. It's not my fault those idiots in office took the money from the trust fund. But they did. That doesn't make the obligation of the government go away.

Leave us poor folk alone. We have it bad enough. We can't survive any cuts. It's bad enough they took away our food stamps. Try to live off $75 a month in food. Just try. See if you think you need less.
 Quoting: ookie


The whole thing was a PONZI scheme from the beginning.
Moral people would have realized this was going to bankrupt their kids and demanded it be repealed. The Boomers were the only generation that had the required size to make a difference. They instead CHOOSE to burden future generations with their retirements - just as you are arguing that you still deserve something out of other people's pockets now.

Shouldn't you be living with your kids? Shouldn't you kids be taking care of you? If they won't, why should I , a complete stranger be doing that? Its your generation's prevalent collectivist attitude that other people are resources for your own use that is the problem. You are responsible for you - You should have saved for your old age. You should have children that care enough about you to care for you. I am not responsible for your life, and if you die why should I care? You see me as a walking wallet- not a person. SO why should I treat you like a person when you won't reciprocate?
 Quoting: Weisshaupt


Bullshit.
SS was supposed to be insurance, in case you lived long enough to be unable to work.
Just like car insurance, you are paying a premium.
That is why no money is paid if you die before retirement age.
The problem was that Washington took the money and spent it, it was supposed to have been left alone.
 Quoting: Confederate Soldier



No, sorry, everything I said was true. It doesn't matter what you think it was "supposed" to be.
It started out literally paying benefits to people who never paid in. That is the definition of a ponzi scheme.

the Supreme court already determined its just a tax and that no one who paid the tax is entitled to anything. Hence it is NOT insurance, even if it was "supposed" to be
Insurance, by the way - covers things that MIGHT happen -distributing the risk - you know you will get old hence there is no need for "insurance" unless you provide so little value to others that you can't afford to save money like a responsible person would and then decide you will live off of others by stealing from them.

If it is such a great idea- why do people have to be forced to pay into it? Why are they not allowed to opt out if you can show you will be taken care of by your own means? ( Actually the Amish are allowed to do so)

One COULD set up a retirement insurance without the fed and mandatory participaton couldn't they? They didn't. Its not insurance. Its a ponzi scheme to steal your money and give it to the government and that is exactly what happened.
 Quoting: Weisshaupt

Those in charge are working on taking out the Amish for a multitude of truths made apparent on several fronts of late... Dioxins in Ohio.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
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03/18/2023 05:28 PM

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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
"We" means the World Economic Forum.
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For 40 years of your work, what you earned doesn't even account for 10% of the money the government will need to spend on you in the future. And saying that you've paid everything off is ridiculous. It’s like you are asking for something worth a thousand dollars after paying only a hundred dollars.


This is socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83539868


At age 55, the last SS statement I got (about 5 months ago), showed that both my employers and myself (since the age of 14 when I started working) have contributed:

Me - $219K
My Employers - $219K

So $438,000, plus I'm still working now and can't even qualify for SS full benefits for another 10 years (age 65).

At age 65, based on today's numbers, I will collect $3,100 per month, or roughly $37,000 per year.

I'd have to collect that amount for 13 years just to recoup what my employers and myself have put into the program, NOT INCLUDING ANY GROWTH OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS!

It's a rip off.

If they offered me all of my money (and my employers contributions) + a retroactive 2% per year interest, then I would cash out.
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Guess you were stupid to pay in,Ukraine
 Quoting: ondrunn


But they won’t make you an offer…it’s always been a pay forward program. All sales are final. No refunds allowed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85459804


We could write letters to our legislature and senators to defund the Ukraine psyop, no?
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
we paid in for 40 yrs..
get a job loser
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For 40 years of your work, what you earned doesn't even account for 10% of the money the government will need to spend on you in the future. And saying that you've paid everything off is ridiculous. It’s like you are asking for something worth a thousand dollars after paying only a hundred dollars.


This is socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83539868


hesright

they just need to pull up their boot straps and get a job
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Lol
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
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We should stop demomcrafts’ spending spree!

USA is already bankrupt.

Let boomers pay their own shits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85188299


Boomers built this country and may just be it's savior.
Maybe if Mom kicked you out of her basement, you'd have a better perspecive
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You know your a failure when your insults are older then you
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03/18/2023 05:32 PM
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
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At age 55, the last SS statement I got (about 5 months ago), showed that both my employers and myself (since the age of 14 when I started working) have contributed:

Me - $219K
My Employers - $219K

So $438,000, plus I'm still working now and can't even qualify for SS full benefits for another 10 years (age 65).

At age 65, based on today's numbers, I will collect $3,100 per month, or roughly $37,000 per year.

I'd have to collect that amount for 13 years just to recoup what my employers and myself have put into the program, NOT INCLUDING ANY GROWTH OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS!

It's a rip off.

If they offered me all of my money (and my employers contributions) + a retroactive 2% per year interest, then I would cash out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80529282


Guess you were stupid to pay in,Ukraine
 Quoting: ondrunn


But they won’t make you an offer…it’s always been a pay forward program. All sales are final. No refunds allowed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85459804


We could write letters to our legislature and senators to defund the Ukraine psyop, no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


Yeah send them letters so they can throw them right into the garbage can
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


But for a 30 year old to call out a 70 year old cunt for saying what they thought it was about now? That's just selfish and imbecile.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
Hey go fuck your self we worked hard all our life let's start with your parents fuck tard
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
Hey go fuck your self we worked hard all our life let's start with your parents fuck tard
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You worked for nothing my dude. Sorry you waisted all that precious time for anothers ambitions
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


But for a 30 year old to call out a 70 year old cunt for saying what they thought it was about now? That's just selfish and imbecile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And surprisingly, just what the IMF and the WEF and the UN and the WHO, and the CIA, and the FBI love about every new generation that they're conscripting into their $ making wars.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


Like you had a choice to keep working without "THE" vaccine?
Go on tell me more stories...
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Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


But for a 30 year old to call out a 70 year old cunt for saying what they thought it was about now? That's just selfish and imbecile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And surprisingly, just what the IMF and the WEF and the UN and the WHO, and the CIA, and the FBI love about every new generation that they're conscripting into their $ making wars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


Yeah and all of them are dying boohoomers.
They hate everybody even themselves
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Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


Like you had a choice to keep working without "THE" vaccine?
Go on tell me more stories...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


In Texas I did have a choice. I chose not to take it. Just like I never had to wear a face mask.
Your point?
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Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


Like you had a choice to keep working without "THE" vaccine?
Go on tell me more stories...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Working people had no choice in their fucking check deductions by state and feds.... tell me otherwise?
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
Funny thing is republican party is actually pushing to cut off old people’s Medicare and SS. Yes they want to save budget through cutting off old people’s prescriptions.
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bsflag

They are all highly invested in big pharma and the for profit "health care" "providers".WTF ?They act like they are doing you a favor.Can't wait to get my SS and medical.Been paying 1K a month thru supposed good insurance thru my union ans still have to copay for every fucking thing.People on welfare live better than i do.OPIE it is all a big ball of shit rolling down hill getting bigger by the day.Being mad all the time will kill you way before your time.How about the parents of immigrants who never worked a day in this country getting benefits when they come here as old people?How about millions of illegals getting free housing food and medical.And yet you want to blame your parents grandparents for the state of things.
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And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


But for a 30 year old to call out a 70 year old cunt for saying what they thought it was about now? That's just selfish and imbecile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And surprisingly, just what the IMF and the WEF and the UN and the WHO, and the CIA, and the FBI love about every new generation that they're conscripting into their $ making wars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


Yeah and all of them are dying boohoomers.
They hate everybody even themselves
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


All I gotta say is thank fuck for Father death
It's ripe for the picking
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And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


Like you had a choice to keep working without "THE" vaccine?
Go on tell me more stories...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Working people had no choice in their fucking check deductions by state and feds.... tell me otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


you are either delusional of history or a cunt.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
we paid in for 40 yrs..
get a job loser
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85325960


For 40 years of your work, what you earned doesn't even account for 10% of the money the government will need to spend on you in the future. And saying that you've paid everything off is ridiculous. It’s like you are asking for something worth a thousand dollars after paying only a hundred dollars.


This is socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83539868


At age 55, the last SS statement I got (about 5 months ago), showed that both my employers and myself (since the age of 14 when I started working) have contributed:

Me - $219K
My Employers - $219K

So $438,000, plus I'm still working now and can't even qualify for SS full benefits for another 10 years (age 65).

At age 65, based on today's numbers, I will collect $3,100 per month, or roughly $37,000 per year.

I'd have to collect that amount for 13 years just to recoup what my employers and myself have put into the program, NOT INCLUDING ANY GROWTH OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS!

It's a rip off.

If they offered me all of my money (and my employers contributions) + a retroactive 2% per year interest, then I would cash out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80529282


Guess you were stupid to pay in,Ukraine
 Quoting: ondrunn


You don't have a choice.

You'll learn that once you graduate high school and get your first job.
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Re: We need to cut back medicare and social security from retired boomers
No sweat.....the industrious Gen Z will will keep SS solvent......


just kidding.....


I'm happy to be old and gonna collect with both hands until the system goes dry.....so you kids best be heading to work.....LOL...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73847342


Anyone under 70 obviously knew soc sec taken out of their paychecks was never going to be given back. It wasn't a choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


I was told in the 80's that SS won't be there for me.....so I lived my life planning without it.....I retired not needing SS due to the good financial decisions I made....but lo and behold, I do receive beer money every month....yes....I am a reviled B00Maaaaaah!....LOL..
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And to pretend that they had a choice is disingenuous in your dialogue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


They did have a choice they created it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


Like you had a choice to keep working without "THE" vaccine?
Go on tell me more stories...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356

Working people had no choice in their fucking check deductions by state and feds.... tell me otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


I work for city government. Again. Never took a vaccine. Never forced to do it. Never even worse a mask
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But for a 30 year old to call out a 70 year old cunt for saying what they thought it was about now? That's just selfish and imbecile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


And surprisingly, just what the IMF and the WEF and the UN and the WHO, and the CIA, and the FBI love about every new generation that they're conscripting into their $ making wars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69539356


Yeah and all of them are dying boohoomers.
They hate everybody even themselves
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


All I gotta say is thank fuck for Father death
It's ripe for the picking
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73873862


for you maybe.





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