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User ID: 84018635 ![]() 03/18/2023 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? Yeah Trump was supposed to pardon people who had not even been charged yet before he left office two weeks later. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80357432 what a 'tard. And didn't pardon Manning, Didn't pardon Snowden, Didn't pardon Assange, In fact he didn't pardon a single whistle blower. ------------- Can you pardon someone who hasn’t been charged yet or convicted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." ![]() Provide the link for that quote. “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85158632 ![]() 03/18/2023 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? Yeah Trump was supposed to pardon people who had not even been charged yet before he left office two weeks later. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80357432 what a 'tard. And didn't pardon Manning, Didn't pardon Snowden, Didn't pardon Assange, In fact he didn't pardon a single whistle blower. ------------- Can you pardon someone who hasn’t been charged yet or convicted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." ![]() Provide the link for that quote. It's called Google , boomer. Do your own work if you want to know if it's true or not. ![]() |
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User ID: 84018664 ![]() 03/18/2023 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? Yeah Trump was supposed to pardon people who had not even been charged yet before he left office two weeks later. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80357432 what a 'tard. And didn't pardon Manning, Didn't pardon Snowden, Didn't pardon Assange, In fact he didn't pardon a single whistle blower. ------------- Can you pardon someone who hasn’t been charged yet or convicted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." ![]() Provide the link for that quote. It's called Google , boomer. Do your own work if you want to know if it's true or not. ![]() So you can quote the supposed cite, but can’t post the link? Lol. I’m 34, not even close there, but sweet deflection. Could it be, maybe, because you’re just typing that and don’t have the actual law language that covers it? “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
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User ID: 83978536 ![]() 03/18/2023 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? So OP can’t link his fabulous quote that implies you can pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged yet. FAIL on OP. FAILED thread. “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85402044 ![]() 03/18/2023 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? So OP can’t link his fabulous quote that implies you can pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged yet. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen FAIL on OP. FAILED thread. Let me spoon feed you - The U.S. Capitol Police arrested 14 people on Jan. 6, including the six defendants named in the indictment and four others for unlawful entry, according to a press release. At least three people were arrested outside the Capitol on that day, Lead Stories reported. The Metropolitan Police Department also published arrests it made on Jan. 6 on charges related to unlawful entry and curfew violation. Trumps last day as President was January 21. Altogether , Trump pardoned 143 people .Eleven people he had pardoned , hadn't been convicted or sentenced yet. Same as the 14 people arrested on January 6th. Yet Trump did nothing for them . [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] |
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User ID: 74563253 ![]() 03/18/2023 05:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? So OP can’t link his fabulous quote that implies you can pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged yet. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen FAIL on OP. FAILED thread. The quote is from wikipedia. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I seem to remember him pardoning a child molester on his last day in office as well. Stop falling for this divide and conquer bullshit. If someone has a big media presence they can not be trusted. Only filthy rich people decide what gets on tv or maybe even what gets clout online. You can not get filthy rich in this world without being filthy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? So OP can’t link his fabulous quote that implies you can pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged yet. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen FAIL on OP. FAILED thread. Let me spoon feed you - The U.S. Capitol Police arrested 14 people on Jan. 6, including the six defendants named in the indictment and four others for unlawful entry, according to a press release. At least three people were arrested outside the Capitol on that day, Lead Stories reported. The Metropolitan Police Department also published arrests it made on Jan. 6 on charges related to unlawful entry and curfew violation. Trumps last day as President was January 21. Altogether , Trump pardoned 143 people .Eleven people he had pardoned , hadn't been convicted or sentenced yet. Same as the 14 people arrested on January 6th. Yet Trump did nothing for them . [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? So OP can’t link his fabulous quote that implies you can pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged yet. Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen FAIL on OP. FAILED thread. Let me spoon feed you - The U.S. Capitol Police arrested 14 people on Jan. 6, including the six defendants named in the indictment and four others for unlawful entry, according to a press release. At least three people were arrested outside the Capitol on that day, Lead Stories reported. The Metropolitan Police Department also published arrests it made on Jan. 6 on charges related to unlawful entry and curfew violation. Trumps last day as President was January 21. Altogether , Trump pardoned 143 people .Eleven people he had pardoned , hadn't been convicted or sentenced yet. Same as the 14 people arrested on January 6th. Yet Trump did nothing for them . [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] ![]() ![]() |
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User ID: 76388104 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? You're uneducated and have NO IDEA what a pardon is. Here...learn something: TRUMP COULD NOT PARDON THEM! KNOW THE LAW! Limitations of the presidential pardon Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Feds are claiming that most of this was planned ahead of January 6th, in the individual's states... [link to www.brookings.edu (secure)] This type of pardon would require careful legal drafting. And even if the President pardons the mob, individuals could still be prosecuted by states for violating laws before arriving in D.C. “In each of those states there are criminal conspiracy statutes,” he said. “If the crime was planned, if there was an overt act, if there was wrongdoing, if a pipe bomb was made in those states and carried to D.C.” Attorney Jon Sheldon agreed, adding that some of Wednesday’s curfew violations happened in Arlington, VA. “Most of the planning happened while in various of the 50 states and not D.C.,” Sheldon said. “A president has no power to forgive (pardon) state crimes.” [link to www.wusa9.com (secure)] Last Edited by nutmeg on 03/18/2023 06:33 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? You're uneducated and have NO IDEA what a pardon is. Quoting: nutmeg Here...learn something: TRUMP COULD NOT PARDON THEM! KNOW THE LAW! Limitations of the presidential pardon Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Feds are claiming that most of this was planned ahead of January 6th, in the individual's states... [link to www.brookings.edu (secure)] This type of pardon would require careful legal drafting. And even if the President pardons the mob, individuals could still be prosecuted by states for violating laws before arriving in D.C. “In each of those states there are criminal conspiracy statutes,” he said. “If the crime was planned, if there was an overt act, if there was wrongdoing, if a pipe bomb was made in those states and carried to D.C.” Attorney Jon Sheldon agreed, adding that some of Wednesday’s curfew violations happened in Arlington, VA. “Most of the planning happened while in various of the 50 states and not D.C.,” Sheldon said. “A president has no power to forgive (pardon) state crimes.” [link to www.wusa9.com (secure)] The 14 people arrested on January 6th were arrested by Capital Police , on Federal Property. Trump absolutely had the power to pardon them until the end of his presidency |
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User ID: 76388104 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? You're uneducated and have NO IDEA what a pardon is. Quoting: nutmeg Here...learn something: TRUMP COULD NOT PARDON THEM! KNOW THE LAW! Limitations of the presidential pardon Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Feds are claiming that most of this was planned ahead of January 6th, in the individual's states... [link to www.brookings.edu (secure)] This type of pardon would require careful legal drafting. And even if the President pardons the mob, individuals could still be prosecuted by states for violating laws before arriving in D.C. “In each of those states there are criminal conspiracy statutes,” he said. “If the crime was planned, if there was an overt act, if there was wrongdoing, if a pipe bomb was made in those states and carried to D.C.” Attorney Jon Sheldon agreed, adding that some of Wednesday’s curfew violations happened in Arlington, VA. “Most of the planning happened while in various of the 50 states and not D.C.,” Sheldon said. “A president has no power to forgive (pardon) state crimes.” [link to www.wusa9.com (secure)] The 14 people arrested on January 6th were arrested by Capital Police , on Federal Property. Trump absolutely had the power to pardon them until the end of his presidency They were indicted AFTER Joe Biden was sworn in! Go check the dates of each indictment. It was done purposely. Besides, Appaently you are NOT aware of the rules for pardons. There is a WAITING period! The info is all on line.... I'll do the homework for you. BBL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? Great retort ![]() Just look at the list of CRIMINAL SCUM that Trump pardoned : [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? You're uneducated and have NO IDEA what a pardon is. Quoting: nutmeg Here...learn something: TRUMP COULD NOT PARDON THEM! KNOW THE LAW! Limitations of the presidential pardon Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Feds are claiming that most of this was planned ahead of January 6th, in the individual's states... [link to www.brookings.edu (secure)] This type of pardon would require careful legal drafting. And even if the President pardons the mob, individuals could still be prosecuted by states for violating laws before arriving in D.C. “In each of those states there are criminal conspiracy statutes,” he said. “If the crime was planned, if there was an overt act, if there was wrongdoing, if a pipe bomb was made in those states and carried to D.C.” Attorney Jon Sheldon agreed, adding that some of Wednesday’s curfew violations happened in Arlington, VA. “Most of the planning happened while in various of the 50 states and not D.C.,” Sheldon said. “A president has no power to forgive (pardon) state crimes.” [link to www.wusa9.com (secure)] The 14 people arrested on January 6th were arrested by Capital Police , on Federal Property. Trump absolutely had the power to pardon them until the end of his presidency They were indicted AFTER Joe Biden was sworn in! Go check the dates of each indictment. It was done purposely. Besides, Appaently you are NOT aware of the rules for pardons. There is a WAITING period! The info is all on line.... I'll do the homework for you. BBL Wrong . They were ALREADY ARRESTED with specific charges. On Federal Property by Capital Police. I am referring specifically to the 14 who were arrested on January 6th. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81387085 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? And didn't pardon Manning, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84477481 Didn't pardon Snowden, Didn't pardon Assange, In fact he didn't pardon a single whistle blower. Nope. Almost like he let real patriots get raped by communists on purpose. You would have to be a complete retard to vote for trump again. Some idiots voted for the traitor twice. Unbelievable. A few weeks into his term it was obvious he was betraying his base supporters. Then he wiped his ass with the constitution and went all out on selling out. |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? Presidential Pardon Rules that OP and others have NO IDEA they exist! Now you know! PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS 1. Submit the petition to the Office of the Pardon Attorney All petitions, except petitions relating to military offenses (see paragraph 6 below), should be emailed to the Office of the Pardon Attorney at [email protected] While email allows your transmission to be accepted and processed more quickly and allows us to correspond with you more easily, we will also accept mailed materials at the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Pardon Attorney, 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. 20530. The completed pardon petition must be entirely legible; therefore, please type or print in ink. The form must be completed fully and accurately and notarized in order to be considered. You may attach to the petition additional pages and documents that amplify or clarify your answer to any question. Please do not staple, glue, bind or tape any portion of your petition or supplemental documents. We also will not accept pictures of documents, so they must be scanned on a flatbed scanner and submitted in PDF format if sent electronically. 2. Federal convictions only 3. Five-year waiting period required Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. 4. Reason for seeking pardon 5. Multiple federal convictions (#6 is for the military) 7. Additional arrest record 8. Credit status and civil lawsuits 9. Character references 10. Effect of a pardon 11. Scope of investigation 12. Penalty for false statements [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20210608 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." Link the source you obtained that from. Nixon was pardoned in this manner. |
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User ID: 76388104 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? You're uneducated and have NO IDEA what a pardon is. Quoting: nutmeg Here...learn something: TRUMP COULD NOT PARDON THEM! KNOW THE LAW! Limitations of the presidential pardon Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Feds are claiming that most of this was planned ahead of January 6th, in the individual's states... [link to www.brookings.edu (secure)] This type of pardon would require careful legal drafting. And even if the President pardons the mob, individuals could still be prosecuted by states for violating laws before arriving in D.C. “In each of those states there are criminal conspiracy statutes,” he said. “If the crime was planned, if there was an overt act, if there was wrongdoing, if a pipe bomb was made in those states and carried to D.C.” Attorney Jon Sheldon agreed, adding that some of Wednesday’s curfew violations happened in Arlington, VA. “Most of the planning happened while in various of the 50 states and not D.C.,” Sheldon said. “A president has no power to forgive (pardon) state crimes.” [link to www.wusa9.com (secure)] The 14 people arrested on January 6th were arrested by Capital Police , on Federal Property. Trump absolutely had the power to pardon them until the end of his presidency They were indicted AFTER Joe Biden was sworn in! Go check the dates of each indictment. It was done purposely. Besides, Appaently you are NOT aware of the rules for pardons. There is a WAITING period! The info is all on line.... I'll do the homework for you. BBL Wrong . They were ALREADY ARRESTED with specific charges. On Federal Property by Capital Police. I am referring specifically to the 14 who were arrested on January 6th. See my post above. PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS There are RULES for pardons! I posted them for you. A president does NOT wave a magic wand and say..."You're pardoned!" Last Edited by nutmeg on 03/18/2023 06:54 PM |
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User ID: 76388104 ![]() 03/18/2023 06:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." So until Biden was sworn in, Trump could have pardoned them, the insurrectionist traitors that is.. No, he could not. There are laws. See my post above. "PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS" Last Edited by nutmeg on 03/18/2023 06:57 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85007117 The 14 people arrested on January 6th were arrested by Capital Police , on Federal Property. Trump absolutely had the power to pardon them until the end of his presidency They were indicted AFTER Joe Biden was sworn in! Go check the dates of each indictment. It was done purposely. Besides, Appaently you are NOT aware of the rules for pardons. There is a WAITING period! The info is all on line.... I'll do the homework for you. BBL Wrong . They were ALREADY ARRESTED with specific charges. On Federal Property by Capital Police. I am referring specifically to the 14 who were arrested on January 6th. See my post above. PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS There are RULES for pardons! I posted them for you. A president does NOT wave a magic wand and say..."You're pardoned!" Look at the list of people Trump had pardoned - 143 people in total. 11 of those people had been recently arrested at the time and hadn't even been to trial and sentenced yet. [link to www.justice.gov (secure)] So stop doing a giant copy paste of irrelevant shit that doesn't pertain to reality and what a president can actually do ....... if he wants to |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85007117 03/18/2023 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Remember When Trump Pardoned All Those Rich People, Rappers, Drug Dealers, Dual Citizens .... And Ignored All The January 6th People ? YES "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime." So until Biden was sworn in, Trump could have pardoned them, the insurrectionist traitors that is.. No, he could not. There are laws. See my post above. "PARDON INFORMATION AND INSTRUCTIONS" WRONG "Bannon’s pardon was especially notable given that the prosecution was still in its early stages and any trial was months away. Whereas pardon recipients are conventionally thought of as defendants who have faced justice, often by having served at least some prison time, the pardon nullifies the prosecution and effectively eliminates any prospect for punishment." [link to apnews.com (secure)] |