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Lots of people talk about who the greatest guitar player of all time might be

 
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While I have y’all’s attention, give this guy a listen. No one plays bass this way, not even jaco or victor.
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Another bass player with an identity crisis. He clearly identifies as a guitarist! LOL

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Matt Heafy


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Trivium’s 2021 album was phenomenal. Their new drummer, Alex Bent is so amazing. He’s only like 23 or 24 also. I especially like the song catastrophist.
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While I have y’all’s attention, give this guy a listen. No one plays bass this way, not even jaco or victor.
 Quoting: Guv’nor


Another bass player with an identity crisis. He clearly identifies as a guitarist! LOL

epiclol
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Lol it’s 2023, my man. You can identify as whatever
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Guthrie is beyond buckethead. It’s a fact, not an opinion.

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While it might be a fact the this dude is Buckethead's favorite guitar player does not equate to him being
the greatest guitar player of all time.
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This guy is considered the GOAT of guitarist by many of the best in the world, like Tommy Emmanuel and others.


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This guy just sounds like the Dooo. Precise. Plays like an engineer, not a musician who 'feels' music.
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There are a lot of guitar players that can play well, but what is important, is to be able to WRITE the original music that people enjoy hearing them play.

I like "tone" players, like Mark Knopfler, who can extract so much information from a single note.


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Good call. Love Knopfler. Over the years, I've probably stolen more technique from him than from anyone else. Or attempted to.
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Pastorius was a great bass player and was creative, but very few would hire him to perform the core role of a bassist - 1. play the root on the "one" and something pretty that leads out of and into chords and 2. make the people want to get out of their seats and dance.

Pastorius played bass like a lead guitar. That's NOT what most bands are looking for in a sideman.
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Pastorius was also out of his mind. It was his complete lack of self-awareness that got him killed.
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Sad, but true.
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While I have y’all’s attention, give this guy a listen. No one plays bass this way, not even jaco or victor.
 Quoting: Guv’nor


Another bass player with an identity crisis. He clearly identifies as a guitarist! LOL

epiclol
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Lol it’s 2023, my man. You can identify as whatever
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Touche.
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I would say Eddie Van Halen except he was fond of telling anyone who would listen that his son Wolfgang was a much better musician that he was. Still great loss when Eddie passed. Same year Neal Peart passed. I bet they’re rocking in Heaven right now.
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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

Check out tosin abasi and Tim Henson for the “new” top level guitar players.
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*Les Claypool, Victor Wooten, Jaco Pastorius top 3 picks for best bass players
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Id argue the australian chick who played with jeff beck tal wilkenfeld and the indian chick who has played with vai, mohini dey are top tier bass players, i guess wilkenfeld is kind of well known now, but nobody knows mohini really, though i guess she keeps blowing up on youtube.

Easily two of the best females ive ever seen play bass.
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Listen to the opinions of people whose names are actually in the conversation about who is "the greatest guitar player of all time".
Tommy Emmanuel would tell you the answer is Chet Atkins.
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Certainly one of the best. He was sweeping, and hybrid picking
a generation before anyone else.

Except maybe Django Reinhart.

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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

Check out tosin abasi and Tim Henson for the “new” top level guitar players.
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I'll check back on Tim Henson in another decade or so to see if he matures into a compelling player. Right now he's just another kid playing a thousand notes a minute. Granted, he is exceptionally good at playing a thousand notes a minute...
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Good shit right there
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Yingwe’s better.
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Re: Lots of people talk about who the greatest guitar player of all time might be
Frank Zappa is one of them.
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NO, THEY DON'T.

NO-ONE IS DISCUSSING THIS

When people are struggling with the New World Order Oppression and poverty and rising interest Rates, NO-ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WHO IS THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER.

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.

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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

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I wouldnt say the average teenager player, but the bar is certainly higher these days than it was 50 years ago, true i know what you are saying. The technical level of amateur players in bars now is like what top tier 60's and 70's players in major bands were like.

Absolutely thousands of incredible musicians on youtube that are better than ill ever be, even if i spend another 10 years playing 10 hours a day and ive been playing 20 years already, some of them have only been playing 5-10 years too so are barely in their 20's, its absolutely insane.

Its like mixed matial arts, MMA was hilarious back when the UFC started, half the roster now who are just contenders would absolutely murder bruce lee in a cage fight, some stuff like BJJ simply elevated the game, thats what happened with guitar, everybody was improved by the notion of just what was possible.
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Mark Speer is in a class of his own. Much more than technical
chops, which he has, but melodic songwriting, clean vibes,
getting his Fender Strat to sound so amazing (clarity from
high to low frequency). He explains how he accidentally wired
his Dimarzio Cruiser pickup backwards in the rig rundown.




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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

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I wouldnt say the average teenager player, but the bar is certainly higher these days than it was 50 years ago, true i know what you are saying. The technical level of amateur players in bars now is like what top tier 60's and 70's players in major bands were like.

Absolutely thousands of incredible musicians on youtube that are better than ill ever be, even if i spend another 10 years playing 10 hours a day and ive been playing 20 years already, some of them have only been playing 5-10 years too so are barely in their 20's, its absolutely insane.

Its like mixed matial arts, MMA was hilarious back when the UFC started, half the roster now who are just contenders would absolutely murder bruce lee in a cage fight, some stuff like BJJ simply elevated the game, thats what happened with guitar, everybody was improved by the notion of just what was possible.
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No it hasn’t. Nobody knows who these clowns are cause they can’t write anything worth listening to. Which is why no one knows who they are but Guitar Center employees.

Wagner wrote entire masterpiece symphonies. He didn’t just sit there and noodle on his violin….
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Re: Lots of people talk about who the greatest guitar player of all time might be
Tim Palmieri, of the Breakfast (Psychedelic Breakfast), Kung Fu, Lotus, etc.

His solo Beatles A-Z is a top notch Bewatles Review. One of the better Zappa players.


The only guitar player I go to the front to watch play.

Here's a few quick samples, dig deep, he's been around since the mid 90's.



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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

Check out tosin abasi and Tim Henson for the “new” top level guitar players.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85471931


I'll check back on Tim Henson in another decade or so to see if he matures into a compelling player. Right now he's just another kid playing a thousand notes a minute. Granted, he is exceptionally good at playing a thousand notes a minute...
 Quoting: Tie Nylon


Agreed. Tosin and Tim are both snoozefests for me. Extremely talented. Extremely boring. Manuel Gardner Fernandez plays similar to Tim except there is compelling emotion to Manuel’s playing.
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Dick dale and the deltones
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I like "tone" players, like Mark Knopfler


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I struggle playing knopfler because similar to django and tony iommi i have missing fingers from an accident, but in my case its actually on my picking hand so doing the classical style double stopp/dyadds piccatto style that knofler does a lot where he plucks two strings out at once can be a bit of a pain for me if im doing it whilst finger picking or using a pick as i simply dont have the fingers spare, hold a plecktrum and then try to pluck two strings at once missing parts of 2 fingers, its pretty hard.

Its why i settled into a lot of funk style bass playing but i cant three finger walk, but i can slap and pluck no problems, my fretting hand is like a guitar players so im one of those bass players who is really a guitar player lmao.

I play piano, keyboards too, and drums and struggle too, always wanted to transition to upright bass, i have an electric upright in my collection but i cant really afford a quality expensive upright bass, a good one can cost a couple of thousand.
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These classic rock guitar players are good but the older audience here doesn’t understand how much the bar has been raised. The average teenage guitar player is better than every single one of these people that have been posted.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85471931


I wouldnt say the average teenager player, but the bar is certainly higher these days than it was 50 years ago, true i know what you are saying. The technical level of amateur players in bars now is like what top tier 60's and 70's players in major bands were like.

Absolutely thousands of incredible musicians on youtube that are better than ill ever be, even if i spend another 10 years playing 10 hours a day and ive been playing 20 years already, some of them have only been playing 5-10 years too so are barely in their 20's, its absolutely insane.

Its like mixed matial arts, MMA was hilarious back when the UFC started, half the roster now who are just contenders would absolutely murder bruce lee in a cage fight, some stuff like BJJ simply elevated the game, thats what happened with guitar, everybody was improved by the notion of just what was possible.
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Players today have enormous advantages. Nobody pre-internet, for example, could just go to Ultimate Guitar and grab the tab for a song, we actually had to learn on our own, and I believe that gave us a better understanding of our instruments. The harder you have to work at something, the more you'll learn from it and the more rewarding it is.

And no matter how good you are, there is always someone far better. Probably some kid in Japan that you find on YouTube one day and are left thinking "How the hell is that even possible?"

edit: What drives me nuts about young players that learn from internet instructors is they all learn that damned CAGED system. Ugh!

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Good shit right there
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I can tell before i even started the video thats tony levin on bass/chapman stick.
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This is the end of that discussion.


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