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panther0621
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85273437 Australia 04/14/2023 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure if I am tired but that is formated somehow that it just isnt readable. Quoting: panther0621 TLDR is like a few sentences. can you do that OP OP can't do that. He's not good at simplification, but I am and will. Money printer go brrr. Debt instruments are a con job that gives you money in the classic I'll pay you next Thursday for a burger today. The coupon on the Gov debt is a payment for holding the debt like a person at a pawnbroker pays interest so their stuff doesn't get sold. Except the Gov keeps paying 1% coupon a month and never redeems the pawned stuff. As for where the money comes from? Ancient Romans clipped coins and now with paper money and soon with CBSCs, it'll be easier than ever to "clip" that Denarius. It's just currency debasement. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years. Mr Einstein was right again, people are stupid. |
okie1
(OP) User ID: 85050869 United States 04/14/2023 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure if I am tired but that is formated somehow that it just isnt readable. Quoting: panther0621 TLDR is like a few sentences. can you do that OP OP can't do that. He's not good at simplification, but I am and will. Money printer go brrr. Debt instruments are a con job that gives you money in the classic I'll pay you next Thursday for a burger today. The coupon on the Gov debt is a payment for holding the debt like a person at a pawnbroker pays interest so their stuff doesn't get sold. Except the Gov keeps paying 1% coupon a month and never redeems the pawned stuff. As for where the money comes from? Ancient Romans clipped coins and now with paper money and soon with CBSCs, it'll be easier than ever to "clip" that Denarius. It's just currency debasement. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years. Mr Einstein was right again, people are stupid. That's not at all correct. I'm literally saying the exact opposite. And the Roman expansion of their coinage isn't at all analogous to our own monetary system. The Romans were just counterfeiting their own currency. Now if the treasury were to mint a trillion dollar coin like they've been threatening to, then the two situations would be comparable. But the way our monetary system works, from the perspective of how the money supply expands, is extremely different. There is in fact nothing else like it in history. The current USD monetary system has no historical precedent. Credit existed in ancient monetary systems, but it wasn't intrinsically linked to the expansion of their money supply. And money and credit weren't used interchangeably. People who say the USD isn't real money don't understand how the monetary system works. There is in fact "real" money, but the distinction between debt instruments and money is so blurred that very few people understand the difference. For all intents and purposes, money is USD held by anyone who doesn't owe them to anyone else. So a dollar in your pocket is the prime example. On the other hand, let's say you borrow money from a bank. That's nothing more than a collateralized debt instrument that has been monetized and relent. And because it's a liability to you, it's not real money. If you spend it to someone who keeps it in cash and doesn't owe it to anyone, then it at that point does become real money. The foundation for this whole system is written right on the dollar. "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." Every collateralized obligation can be settled in dollars. What this really is, at its core, is a public slave market so advanced that its participants have zero clue that they're both slaves and slaveholders. Every dollar represents the legal power to force someone else to perform some service on your behalf. As you can imagine though there's very little real money in the system. Almost all the money exists only in the form of collateralized debt, and the little money that is in the system revolves around servicing the debt, which is in effect a bunch of people all with claim to the same money. okie |
okie1
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85458060 United States 04/14/2023 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure if I am tired but that is formated somehow that it just isnt readable. Quoting: panther0621 TLDR is like a few sentences. can you do that OP OP can't do that. He's not good at simplification, but I am and will. Money printer go brrr. Debt instruments are a con job that gives you money in the classic I'll pay you next Thursday for a burger today. The coupon on the Gov debt is a payment for holding the debt like a person at a pawnbroker pays interest so their stuff doesn't get sold. Except the Gov keeps paying 1% coupon a month and never redeems the pawned stuff. As for where the money comes from? Ancient Romans clipped coins and now with paper money and soon with CBSCs, it'll be easier than ever to "clip" that Denarius. It's just currency debasement. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years. Mr Einstein was right again, people are stupid. That's not at all correct. I'm literally saying the exact opposite. And the Roman expansion of their coinage isn't at all analogous to our own monetary system. The Romans were just counterfeiting their own currency. Now if the treasury were to mint a trillion dollar coin like they've been threatening to, then the two situations would be comparable. But the way our monetary system works, from the perspective of how the money supply expands, is extremely different. There is in fact nothing else like it in history. The current USD monetary system has no historical precedent. Credit existed in ancient monetary systems, but it wasn't intrinsically linked to the expansion of their money supply. And money and credit weren't used interchangeably. People who say the USD isn't real money don't understand how the monetary system works. There is in fact "real" money, but the distinction between debt instruments and money is so blurred that very few people understand the difference. For all intents and purposes, money is USD held by anyone who doesn't owe them to anyone else. So a dollar in your pocket is the prime example. On the other hand, let's say you borrow money from a bank. That's nothing more than a collateralized debt instrument that has been monetized and relent. And because it's a liability to you, it's not real money. If you spend it to someone who keeps it in cash and doesn't owe it to anyone, then it at that point does become real money. The foundation for this whole system is written right on the dollar. "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." Every collateralized obligation can be settled in dollars. What this really is, at its core, is a public slave market so advanced that its participants have zero clue that they're both slaves and slaveholders. Every dollar represents the legal power to force someone else to perform some service on your behalf. As you can imagine though there's very little real money in the system. Almost all the money exists only in the form of collateralized debt, and the little money that is in the system revolves around servicing the debt, which is in effect a bunch of people all with claim to the same money. Musical chairs is fun till the music. stops...then too many peeps not enuff chairs. |
okie1
(OP) User ID: 85050869 United States 04/14/2023 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure if I am tired but that is formated somehow that it just isnt readable. Quoting: panther0621 TLDR is like a few sentences. can you do that OP OP can't do that. He's not good at simplification, but I am and will. Money printer go brrr. Debt instruments are a con job that gives you money in the classic I'll pay you next Thursday for a burger today. The coupon on the Gov debt is a payment for holding the debt like a person at a pawnbroker pays interest so their stuff doesn't get sold. Except the Gov keeps paying 1% coupon a month and never redeems the pawned stuff. As for where the money comes from? Ancient Romans clipped coins and now with paper money and soon with CBSCs, it'll be easier than ever to "clip" that Denarius. It's just currency debasement. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years. Mr Einstein was right again, people are stupid. That's not at all correct. I'm literally saying the exact opposite. And the Roman expansion of their coinage isn't at all analogous to our own monetary system. The Romans were just counterfeiting their own currency. Now if the treasury were to mint a trillion dollar coin like they've been threatening to, then the two situations would be comparable. But the way our monetary system works, from the perspective of how the money supply expands, is extremely different. There is in fact nothing else like it in history. The current USD monetary system has no historical precedent. Credit existed in ancient monetary systems, but it wasn't intrinsically linked to the expansion of their money supply. And money and credit weren't used interchangeably. People who say the USD isn't real money don't understand how the monetary system works. There is in fact "real" money, but the distinction between debt instruments and money is so blurred that very few people understand the difference. For all intents and purposes, money is USD held by anyone who doesn't owe them to anyone else. So a dollar in your pocket is the prime example. On the other hand, let's say you borrow money from a bank. That's nothing more than a collateralized debt instrument that has been monetized and relent. And because it's a liability to you, it's not real money. If you spend it to someone who keeps it in cash and doesn't owe it to anyone, then it at that point does become real money. The foundation for this whole system is written right on the dollar. "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." Every collateralized obligation can be settled in dollars. What this really is, at its core, is a public slave market so advanced that its participants have zero clue that they're both slaves and slaveholders. Every dollar represents the legal power to force someone else to perform some service on your behalf. As you can imagine though there's very little real money in the system. Almost all the money exists only in the form of collateralized debt, and the little money that is in the system revolves around servicing the debt, which is in effect a bunch of people all with claim to the same money. Musical chairs is fun till the music. stops...then too many peeps not enuff chairs. That analogy does hold water. It's like a game of musical chairs where the number of players increases and the number of available chairs decreases. With the twist that you can technically sit down and secure your chair anytime you want, but you're financially incentivized not to. At least from the perspective of the investment side. Last Edited by okie1 on 04/14/2023 06:42 PM okie |
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