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(OP) User ID: 75034012 United States 05/04/2023 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ IN Should Christians Be Jealous? Should Christians Be Jealous? JEALOUSY—is it a quality that Christians should cultivate? As Christians, we are encouraged to “pursue love,” and we are told that “love is not jealous.” (1 Corinthians 13:4; 14:1) On the other hand, we are also told that “Jehovah . . . is a jealous God” and are commanded to “become imitators of God.” (Exodus 34:14; Ephesians 5:1) Why the seeming contradiction? It is because the Heb..w and Greek words translated “jealousy” in the Bible carry a wide range of meanings. They can have either a positive or a negative connotation, depending on how the words are used. For instance, the He..ew word translated “jealousy” can mean “insistence on exclusive devotion; toleration of no rivalry; zeal; ardor; jealousy [righteous or sinful]; envying.” The corresponding Greek word has a similar meaning. These words can refer to a warped, distorted emotion toward a suspected rival or one believed to be enjoying an advantage. (Proverbs 14:30) They can also refer to a positive expression of a God-given quality—wanting to protect a loved one from harm.—2 Corinthians 11:2. |
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Om mani padme hum User ID: 78501492 Austria 05/05/2023 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood that beahvior, even as a child in the sandbox when kids were fighting over the best shovel I ended up just tossing them all away and leaving the idiots to fight over it .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
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Om mani padme hum User ID: 78501492 Austria 05/05/2023 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood that beahvior, even as a child in the sandbox Quoting: Gleichmut when kids were fighting over the best shovel I ended up just tossing them all away and leaving the idiots to fight over it Now that's style. Thanks :) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
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(OP) User ID: 75821905 United States 05/05/2023 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Superlative Example Jehovah sets the superlative example in exercising proper jealousy. His motives are pure and clean, prompted by the desire to keep his people from spiritual and moral corruption. Of his ancient people, figuratively spoken of as Zion, he said: “I will be jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and with great rage I will be jealous for her.” (Zechariah 8:2) Just as a loving father is ever alert to protect his children from harm, Jehovah is alert to protect his servants from physical and spiritual danger. |
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(OP) User ID: 76057887 United States 05/12/2023 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To safeguard his people, Jehovah provided his Word, the Bible. It contains much encouragement for them to walk wisely, and it is rich in examples of those who did. At Isaiah 48:17, we read: “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.” How comforting it is to know that his jealousy moves him to care for and to watch over us! If he were not jealous in this good way, we would suffer all kinds of harm because of our inexperience. Jehovah’s expressions of jealousy are in no way selfish. |
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(OP) User ID: 79889337 United States 05/14/2023 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To safeguard his people, Jehovah provided his Word, the Bible. It contains much encouragement for them to walk wisely, and it is rich in examples of those who did. At Isaiah 48:17, we read: “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.” How comforting it is to know that his jealousy moves him to care for and to watch over us! If he were not jealous in this good way, we would suffer all kinds of harm because of our inexperience. Jehovah’s expressions of jealousy are in no way selfish. So, then, what makes the difference between godly jealousy and improper jealousy? To find out, let us consider the example of Miriam and that of Phinehas. Notice what moved them. |
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(OP) User ID: 76057887 United States 05/19/2023 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Miriam and Phinehas Miriam was the older sister of Moses and Aaron, the leaders of the Israelites during the Exodus. While the Israelites were in the wilderness, Miriam became jealous of her brother Moses. The Bible record reads: “Now Miriam and Aaron began to speak against Moses on account of the Cushite wife whom he had taken . . . And they kept saying: ‘Is it just by Moses alone that Jehovah has spoken? Is it not by us also that he has spoken?’” Apparently, Miriam took the lead in this move against Moses, for Jehovah disciplined Miriam, not Aaron, with a week-long case of leprosy for her disrespectful conduct.—Numbers 12:1-15. |
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(OP) User ID: 76057887 United States 05/19/2023 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What prompted Miriam to act against Moses? Was it concern for true worship and a desire to protect fellow Israelites from harm? Evidently not. It appears that Miriam had allowed an improper desire for more prestige and authority to well up in her heart. As a prophetess in Israel, she enjoyed great respect from the people, particularly the women. She led them in music and song after Israel’s miraculous salvation at the Red Sea. Now, though, Miriam might have become unduly concerned about losing some of her prominence to a suspected rival, the wife of Moses. Moved by selfish jealousy, she stirred up contention against Moses, the one appointed by Jehovah.—Exodus 15:1, 20, 21. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78002472 United States 05/19/2023 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Superlative Example Quoting: DGN Jehovah sets the superlative example in exercising proper jealousy. His motives are pure and clean, prompted by the desire to keep his people from spiritual and moral corruption. Of his ancient people, figuratively spoken of as Zion, he said: “I will be jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and with great rage I will be jealous for her.” (Zechariah 8:2) Just as a loving father is ever alert to protect his children from harm, Jehovah is alert to protect his servants from physical and spiritual danger. This is an astute and spiritually discerning response. Your response that His motives are pure and clean are spot on. The bottom line is that God does not "sin". It was edifying to read your response. Thank you. |
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(OP) User ID: 76057887 United States 05/19/2023 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What prompted Miriam to act against Moses? Was it concern for true worship and a desire to protect fellow Israelites from harm? Evidently not. It appears that Miriam had allowed an improper desire for more prestige and authority to well up in her heart. As a prophetess in Israel, she enjoyed great respect from the people, particularly the women. She led them in music and song after Israel’s miraculous salvation at the Red Sea. Now, though, Miriam might have become unduly concerned about losing some of her prominence to a suspected rival, the wife of Moses. Moved by selfish jealousy, she stirred up contention against Moses, the one appointed by Jehovah.—Exodus 15:1, 20, 21. |
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(OP) User ID: 78512292 United States 05/20/2023 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Phinehas, on the other hand, had a different motive for his actions. Shortly before entering the Promised Land, when Israel was encamped on the Plains of Moab, Moabite and Midianite women lured many Israelite males into immorality and idolatry. To cleanse the camp and turn back Jehovah’s burning anger, the judges of Israel were instructed to kill all the men who had thus deflected. For immoral purposes, the Simeonite chieftain Zimri brazenly brought the Midianite woman Cozbi into the camp “before the eyes of all the assembly of the sons of Israel.” Phinehas acted decisively. Impelled by feelings of jealousy, or zeal, for Jehovah’s worship and a desire to maintain the moral purity of the camp, he executed the fornicators in their tent. He was commended for his “jealous anger,” “tolerating no rivalry at all” toward Jehovah. Phinehas’ prompt action stopped the punishing scourge that had already claimed the lives of 24,000, and Jehovah rewarded him with a covenant for the priesthood to remain in his line to time indefinite.—Numbers 25:4-13; The New English Bible. |
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(OP) User ID: 76060989 United States 05/21/2023 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What was the difference between these two expressions of jealousy? Miriam acted against her brother out of selfish jealousy, while Phinehas executed justice based on godly jealousy. There are times when we, like Phinehas, should feel compelled to speak up or to take some action in defense of Jehovah’s name, his worship, and his people. |
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(OP) User ID: 73482261 United States 05/25/2023 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be Jealous for Jehovah Godly jealousy, however, has its place in true worship. When we tend to be unduly concerned with our own reputation or rights, godly jealousy turns our attention to Jehovah. It moves us to seek out avenues to declare the truth about him, defending his ways and his people. |