the zeitgeist of collective consciousness

That´s right out of a job interview manual. Lol

ah, well, that's true too, but also true for relationships friendships roommates romance ect :)
factoid: did you know there's VERY LITTLE relationship between job interview performance and how good an employee ultimately is?

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/08/2023 03:56 PM

Depends on the applied role too...

If it´s a leading position/speaker to many folks, then the overall performance/personality will tell a lot.

To give an example of the influence thing...and this is just the passive bit
I've been coming to this site on and off for like 10 years with a break every now and then sometimes for many months at a time but I don't think I ever hit a year.

Anyway, as is probably obvious, I don't fall on the Christian/Satanic duality at all - not my boogeyman. However, all of my time on GLP, seeing people thumping the bible over and over and over, I have noticed that I developed unconscious christian judgements, and I even am aware of them and do not agree with them, but they still are there in my head.

Same thing with - like the J hate thing. I am a J obviously. I am staunchly against all of the neo nazi bs being a part of the conspiracy theory community. but now I always feel when someone brings up J at all it's going to be a contentious confrontation or that they secretly think I'm evil. That's passive influence. I never engage with those topics. i ignore them. I only occasionally glance at the thread titles or end up on a thread with a reply from some loon. but still, it has influenced me, in a way that seems very hard to detach myself from

or for example: the topic of covid/vax has 0 interest for me. I never click those threads. yet somehow I know quite a lot about the vax thing!

I´m not into religion either, but I don´t think all of it is invalid. As a guideline etc.

I just don´t follow or worship. You know?

So it´s not strange for you to "pick up" some things that float around.

Is there a typo in your quote:

a few/few

?

I don't think so, no

nah, it's not like this on most platforms.
actually most platforms you are only fed things that align with your interests and rarely see contrary material
which is bad in its own way
but there's also some special technological persuasion at work here too
just different

Technological persuation...

That´s a bit cryptic. Lol

Care to elaborate?

some good thoughts on this:

https://imgur.com/N3NALOR

https://imgur.com/klryh9R

The only way to fight a mind virus is to recognize it exists
like anything else

people think if they have one, they're "weak", but the only alternative is being a psychopath.
influence is supposed to exist. it's just so easy these days to be negatively influenced and the citizen/consoomer (same thing right) is always at the disadvantage

i don't hate people for their religious beliefs, but certain actions and behaviors i find to be reprehensible. like keeping slaves, carrying out genocide, etc. these are the crimes of individuals, and individuals must be judged accordingly. i was confirmed catholic before i stopped going to church when i was 15. the catholic church has a history of committing atrocities up to the present day, but i don't hate catholics in general for those crimes. some of my favorite people were devout catholics. same with the j thing. but atrocities should not be allowed to proliferate because they hide behind a saccharine smoke screen. just my opinion.

cryptic? not at all, it's the mundane form of influence that's talked about by normies - but don't get me wrong, it's incredibly powerful. technological persuasion is almost a uniform consideration on any platform

example: pricing your video game cosmetic skin at 1100 "money points" but only offering a 10$ package for 1000 "money points" so people have to spend the next highest up package (very common actually)
the shop itself wants to persuade you to spend

another simple one: the social media algos that feed you content that the machine learning predicts will align with your psychology. this is a simple effort to keep you engaged, even though it's not a net negative necessarily, it can have problems

google: technological persuasion here is their gatekeeping the actual internet by dropping millions of search results between 2000-2023
that's literal reality gatekeeping - it's persuading the searcher the only truth and the correct answer are always on google

the karma system on this site is technological persuasion
the upvote down vote system on reddit
another off the top of my head: some apps are designed to send you clever push notifications if you don't engage for a long time, trying to find one that causes you to come back to the app. then of course that's logged. this is all passive machine learning too.

anyway, it's ubiquitous
the data you sign away in the ToS and Privacy Agreement let them manipulate you in deep and intimate ways that require no human intervention

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/08/2023 04:42 PM

You have to have a prettty clear vision of what you want to not be too heavily influenced by waves of information washing over you.

Then it doesn´t matter. You know you know.

Or you might want to get "inspiration" from the outside to clue you in better with your "desires".

But this forum stuff... It´s pretty basic. Like msm.
All the channels saying the same same scripted.

yes, the forum is basic (which in some ways, I really like) but the people on it are not
this site is less technological persuasion and more "not everything is as it seems"
in the end it comes down to media literacy and critical thought of course
my only real point is that KNOWING you are susceptible and being observant of yourself in a non judgmental way so that you can self-correct - this is the best possible defense

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/08/2023 04:44 PM

Oh yeah. I get what you mean. Information control and "marketing tactics". Trends management etc.

I was thinking hardware, not software/code.

Last Edited by waycation on 09/08/2023 04:48 PM

Or just know/remember what they are doing and it might not be random.

Intellect vs emotions. People can get carried away with emotions even if they know better.

it's not random, it relies on well tested psychological principles that work unilaterally, whether you are aware of them or not.
maybe not in one day, maybe not in one year
but eventually, if you keep receiving the conditioning, that shit will stick

knowing the method and the fact that someone is influencing you does NOT prevent the influence itself
this is a very common misconception

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/08/2023 04:54 PM

I've been aware that I've been trawling weird christian programming merely from logging onto this site. I know why it works. I know how. I know all of the facts and I am plenty self aware of it.

it doesn't make it go away.
deprogramming is a hell of a process and it's not one that logic will get you through
you have to completely recondition yourself or be reconditioned, do the reverse conditioning basically
all deprogramming is reprogramming

what I do is called quarantine
I put the programming somewhere where I can clearly see it in this case
I walk myself through,
"what triggered this?" "why do I believe this?" "why is this affecting me when I know for a fact it's not true and I don't care if it is?"
but, remove it, it does not

and of course everyone is susceptible to different sorts of programming, some people may pick up the political stuff but nothing religious, some may just pick up the doom porn, ect

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/08/2023 05:00 PM

Structured reality. It is built.

And if it comes crashing down. There has to be a replacement.

These cults start the brainwashing basically from birth, so that´s a pretty heavy thing to wiggle away from without scratches.

Talking about religion of course.

Not a healthy world view imo.
Brainwashing kids is evil.

Last Edited by waycation on 09/08/2023 05:21 PM

On the other hand, you might call it cultural integration, bringing up children etc.

Thorny issue.

religion is a form of culture, not really much different from mainstream culture imo. it has to do with blind faith and reverence and participation/groupthink and suspension of disbelief, etc. all of which are found in abundance outside of 'religion', meaning there is no getting away from the spiritual side of life. even a materialist is espousing a belief system which is spiritual in nature. the religion of spiritual renunciation or something. idk. lol

Last Edited by dummfukk on 09/08/2023 05:39 PM

mostly it's when people get hung up on words, or egregores, as you like to call them. they give the abstract power over the physical world to empower themselves, and end up being slaves to it. the words i mean.

i like words tho. they're beautiful and can be very useful. that's the paradox of the matrix i suppose. can't live with it, can't live without it. among other things.

egregores are much more than words. much much more

ok. but what is a word?

Depends on its spelling

if you misspell a word, does that change the meaning of it?

People: if aliens exist, why haven't we met them?

We have.

People: But there's no way the people who have encountered this are credible.

A huge chunk of people who claim to have met aliens or seen UFOs are current or ex government officials

People: yeah but it's probably just one crazy guy

No, there are more than 10.

People: well then why isn't it all over the news media??

Actually, it has been, many times.

People: don't you think the government would say something to us?

Actually, they literally have, just recently

People: but that's just a psyop

Okay....well there are plenty of civilians, thousands, who have claimed to encountered aliens and UFOs, too, all over the world.

People: but their probably just crazy

They're also all over history, and there's plenty of historical evidence of contact. There's also skinwalker ranch, which you can watch their footage and experiments that prompt ufos to appear. there was even an ancient carving on a church of a goddamn astronaut. there are several cultures that have spoken of sky people.

People: that's a conspiracy theory psshhhhhh

But you can see the writings and pictures yourself.

People: nah

Youtube Video: "If aliens exist, why haven't we met them? The Fermi Paradox"



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WHAT THE FUCK EVIDENCE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?

Last Edited by Skyracula on 09/10/2023 01:45 AM

They´ll accept it when it´s commonly accepted.

Pack of sheep. They don´t dare have a different take on the matter.


Fear of ridicule, finger pointing, being excluded from the group. Valid concerns.

Last Edited by waycation on 09/10/2023 02:00 AM