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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41664940 United States 05/12/2023 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a quick update. Quoting: JustmeTX The problem resolved by itself. Didn't have to replace the idle air control valve or even clean the throttle body. Did the relearn functions on anything I could get access to with the scan tool and no more idle stumble. Car never ran better, even when new. Thanks for the help. I am sure the idle air valve will need replaced someday, But not today. :) Not too many Top Gun quotes from the latest movie. That's the only one I can think of. The car is crazy fast now. I feel the need, the need, for speed. :) If it resolved its self, could of been due to a relearn. Any chance you had a jump start or new battery/reconnect battery right before the problem started? Dirty throttle body and memmory wipe = base idle opening for throttle body is reset. A bit of driving and it will relearn after a bit of driving. |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 05/12/2023 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a quick update. Quoting: JustmeTX The problem resolved by itself. Didn't have to replace the idle air control valve or even clean the throttle body. Did the relearn functions on anything I could get access to with the scan tool and no more idle stumble. Car never ran better, even when new. Thanks for the help. I am sure the idle air valve will need replaced someday, But not today. :) Not too many Top Gun quotes from the latest movie. That's the only one I can think of. The car is crazy fast now. I feel the need, the need, for speed. :) If it resolved its self, could of been due to a relearn. Any chance you had a jump start or new battery/reconnect battery right before the problem started? Dirty throttle body and memmory wipe = base idle opening for throttle body is reset. A bit of driving and it will relearn after a bit of driving. I think the problem started with a bunch of misfires from the coil packs breaking down at high temps. Then I replaced the coil packs and spark plugs. The problem got less frequent but was still happening. Then I did a battery cable disconnect to try and relearn the crank timing, etc. This seemed to help, but it would still stumble ocassionally. Then I tried the scan tool to clear and relearn some stuff. Actually the main thing I wanted to relearn gave an error message and it didn't work, but there was something else that it worked on. Seems it just took a day or so of driving to recalibrate itself. Drove it about 100 miles today and it was perfect. :) Last Edited by JustmeTX on 05/12/2023 11:27 PM Justme |
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User ID: 84308437 United States 05/12/2023 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Computer and scan tool will not report or detect fuel related issues...Only electrical problems, and that doesn't include even low fuel pressure from a weak fuel pump...Clogged injector or sticky injector, or series of injectors will likely be the cause of random multiple misfires detected... Quoting: BRIEF The amount of data this scan tool gives is mind blowing. Fuel pressure actually is provided if I recall correctly. It gives an incredible amount of live data. I never had any codes, it was just me noticing a stumble when stopped at a red light. For a dongle costing under $100, and containing full data for all vehicles (free for the first year), it is pretty impressive. Basically does what the expensive $5000 scan tools used to do. Maybe a bit more poking around to find the various features, and it has to use your cell phone as the display and interface. I only bought it to confirm that the coil packs were having issues before replacing them. The bi directional features are amazing. Send a signal to turn something on or off and it happens. Not sure what all it can do. But it is a LOT more than I expected. I should carry it around in my pocket. If someone's car has an issue, I can just say, "Excuse me while I whip this out". :) No machine is perfect... no perfect machine will actually function. A little bit of "dither" is a good thing. If it aint broke, don't fix it... if it gets worse, then maybe worry? I dunno, I'm not a pro but I've done almost everything in terms of reparing and overhauling cars over the years. INFJ/Conservative Artist |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, i read the title wrong. I thought you wanted to ask a car a question. I was going to let mine give it a shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85543747 I have no idea what you just said, but more power to you! :) He thought Mater wanted to ask Lightning McQueen a question. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 05/13/2023 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seafoam, in the gas, and also in the top where air enters engine, get the can with u shaped sprayer, and add to oil and drive some, then change oil. really works well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85161601 Seafoam is great stuff. Never tried it on a car though. Seafoam might work to clean the carbon off intake valves. A problem that has come about from Direct injection engines. This also underscores the importance of using super high quality synthetic oil and changing it on time. This is pretty much the only thing protecting your valves from carbon build up, and valves failing to close and seal properly. I use Castrol full synthetic or Mobil 1. For me, that is the end of my circle of trust. The guy below is getting paid by Valvoline obviously. Maybe they are good also, I have no experience with them. Also why you should change your el cheapo PCV valve frequently. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 05/13/2023 03:18 PM Justme |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. The filter is probably not the issue, if there's a blockage, it's due to combustion of shitty fuel...I have proven to my son, on our 1000 mile trip starting last Monday, that premium fuel is the best simply because it has detergents in it. The service engine light came on after he started using cheap fuel, and on the trip I asked him to put premium in it...After about 30 miles running premium from a tank on empty (6 miles left) the light went out and stayed out...Now he believes me... Last Edited by BRIEF on 05/13/2023 05:24 PM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 05/13/2023 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. The filter is probably not the issue, if there's a blockage, it's due to combustion of shitty fuel...I have proven to my son, on our 1000 mile trip starting last Monday, that premium fuel is the best simply because it has detergents in it. The service engine light came on after he started using cheap fuel, and on the trip I asked him to put premium in it...After about 30 miles running premium from a tank on empty (6 miles left) the light went out and stayed out...Now he believes me... All gasoline has detergents in it. All premium fuel does is makes your wallet lighter, unless you have a high compression engine that requires it for the higher octane (anti knock) number Justme |
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(OP) User ID: 84369183 United States 05/13/2023 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. If it was a fuel filter issue, the vehicle would starve for fuel at high rpm. It doesn't, this was an idle issue. Which was cured about a page ago by the way. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 05/13/2023 05:38 PM Justme |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. The filter is probably not the issue, if there's a blockage, it's due to combustion of shitty fuel...I have proven to my son, on our 1000 mile trip starting last Monday, that premium fuel is the best simply because it has detergents in it. The service engine light came on after he started using cheap fuel, and on the trip I asked him to put premium in it...After about 30 miles running premium from a tank on empty (6 miles left) the light went out and stayed out...Now he believes me... All gasoline has detergents in it. All premium fuel does is makes your wallet lighter, unless you have a high compression engine that requires it for the higher octane (anti knock) number The higher octane does eliminate ping and knock, but there are more and better detergents in premium...there may be SOME detergents in cheaper fuel, but not as concentrated or as powerful...Gas never hurt my wallet, but it has extended the life of engines and fuel system components... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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User ID: 85511058 United States 05/13/2023 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a quick update. Quoting: JustmeTX The problem resolved by itself. Didn't have to replace the idle air control valve or even clean the throttle body. Did the relearn functions on anything I could get access to with the scan tool and no more idle stumble. Car never ran better, even when new. Thanks for the help. I am sure the idle air valve will need replaced someday, But not today. :) Not too many Top Gun quotes from the latest movie. That's the only one I can think of. The car is crazy fast now. I feel the need, the need, for speed. :) Bet the problem returns, soon. |
Moccasin Ranger
User ID: 85511058 United States 05/13/2023 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. The filter is probably not the issue, if there's a blockage, it's due to combustion of shitty fuel...I have proven to my son, on our 1000 mile trip starting last Monday, that premium fuel is the best simply because it has detergents in it. The service engine light came on after he started using cheap fuel, and on the trip I asked him to put premium in it...After about 30 miles running premium from a tank on empty (6 miles left) the light went out and stayed out...Now he believes me... All gasoline has detergents in it. All premium fuel does is makes your wallet lighter, unless you have a high compression engine that requires it for the higher octane (anti knock) number The higher octane does eliminate ping and knock, but there are more and better detergents in premium...there may be SOME detergents in cheaper fuel, but not as concentrated or as powerful...Gas never hurt my wallet, but it has extended the life of engines and fuel system components... Premium burns slower and cooler, will promote carbon build up in engines not designed for it. |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF The filter is probably not the issue, if there's a blockage, it's due to combustion of shitty fuel...I have proven to my son, on our 1000 mile trip starting last Monday, that premium fuel is the best simply because it has detergents in it. The service engine light came on after he started using cheap fuel, and on the trip I asked him to put premium in it...After about 30 miles running premium from a tank on empty (6 miles left) the light went out and stayed out...Now he believes me... All gasoline has detergents in it. All premium fuel does is makes your wallet lighter, unless you have a high compression engine that requires it for the higher octane (anti knock) number The higher octane does eliminate ping and knock, but there are more and better detergents in premium...there may be SOME detergents in cheaper fuel, but not as concentrated or as powerful...Gas never hurt my wallet, but it has extended the life of engines and fuel system components... Premium burns slower and cooler, will promote carbon build up in engines not designed for it. The detergents are the reason it cleans out the deposits...The detergents are why I put it in everything, well except my Diesel lol I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Moccasin Ranger
User ID: 85511058 United States 05/13/2023 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85646563 Probably related to too much ethanol. I'd suggest changing your fuel filter as a start. If it was a fuel filter issue, the vehicle would starve for fuel at high rpm. It doesn't, this was an idle issue. Which was cured about a page ago by the way. At idle the fuel system is operating at lower volume, in which case a dirty fuel system will have more trouble delivering. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47537105 United States 05/13/2023 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see another video saying to clean the throttle air intake. Quoting: JustmeTX I bought the little CRC spray kit last year and cleaned the MAF sensor which helped the engine run better, but I didn't bother with the throttle intake. Maybe I will do that as well. Bro... Yes. Do that. Modern day car "tune up" is 100% cleaning the maf amd throttle body. You got to do that shit every oil.change..or you should. Run a fuel system cleaner too in your gas tank every oil change as well. Pcv valve is something to remember too. Easy simple and necessary routine maintenance. Then be perplexed if you still have a problem. |
Moccasin Ranger
User ID: 85511058 United States 05/13/2023 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JustmeTX All gasoline has detergents in it. All premium fuel does is makes your wallet lighter, unless you have a high compression engine that requires it for the higher octane (anti knock) number The higher octane does eliminate ping and knock, but there are more and better detergents in premium...there may be SOME detergents in cheaper fuel, but not as concentrated or as powerful...Gas never hurt my wallet, but it has extended the life of engines and fuel system components... Premium burns slower and cooler, will promote carbon build up in engines not designed for it. The detergents are the reason it cleans out the deposits...The detergents are why I put it in everything, well except my Diesel lol If you want to believe that, far be it from me to change your mind. Take pics if you ever pull a head. Better yet, get an endoscope. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF The higher octane does eliminate ping and knock, but there are more and better detergents in premium...there may be SOME detergents in cheaper fuel, but not as concentrated or as powerful...Gas never hurt my wallet, but it has extended the life of engines and fuel system components... Premium burns slower and cooler, will promote carbon build up in engines not designed for it. The detergents are the reason it cleans out the deposits...The detergents are why I put it in everything, well except my Diesel lol If you want to believe that, far be it from me to change your mind. Take pics if you ever pull a head. Better yet, get an endoscope. Seen more than my share of engines torn apart, believe what you want...I have had this car for over 30 years and never had to tear it down...I have no issues with taking it to the red line... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Moccasin Ranger
User ID: 85511058 United States 05/13/2023 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Moccasin Ranger Premium burns slower and cooler, will promote carbon build up in engines not designed for it. The detergents are the reason it cleans out the deposits...The detergents are why I put it in everything, well except my Diesel lol If you want to believe that, far be it from me to change your mind. Take pics if you ever pull a head. Better yet, get an endoscope. Seen more than my share of engines torn apart, believe what you want...I have had this car for over 30 years and never had to tear it down...I have no issues with taking it to the red line... Belief can be a powerful thing. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 05/13/2023 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF The detergents are the reason it cleans out the deposits...The detergents are why I put it in everything, well except my Diesel lol If you want to believe that, far be it from me to change your mind. Take pics if you ever pull a head. Better yet, get an endoscope. Seen more than my share of engines torn apart, believe what you want...I have had this car for over 30 years and never had to tear it down...I have no issues with taking it to the red line... Belief can be a powerful thing. As well as knowledge. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84269411 United States 05/13/2023 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what I'm not gonna even read the thread body. You probably got your oil changed and they messed with your air filter. Then they spray carb cleaner on it and then want to charge you. Mass air flow sensor fault. Make them replace it even if you have to go corporate level. Scam 2020 still hanging around. |