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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80788652 United States 05/13/2023 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. it would appear that the biggest casualty of this war is going to be the ruskie military industrial complex hey, how do you like them denazification as one grandpa said |
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User ID: 79380926 United Kingdom 05/13/2023 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. Remember usa has tech to take down aircraft, just as russia does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75002767 So, i would not jump to conclusions about whats happened, just that russian aircraft is down. It may well be usa that did it with there techs, russia has those techs too. But the fact that its happened altogether means some sort of escalation, that russia has to adapt too. It may be ground to air stuff, but it also could be secret techs, that russia knows usa has. Good point you make right there. When the UK Storm Shadow Cruise Missile hit home. Pictures of a US missile that was also deployed at the same to fool AA systems were released. Thing about this Missile is.It can not be fired by anything Russian/Soviet SU/MiG other than a US Aircraft. Most likely an F-16. As of yet there are no F-16 s in Ukraine,or are they ? Others are speculating everything regards the attacks are being done in direct correlation between a US/NATO AWACS Plane. Serious allegations.And serious escalation if true. It was designed for F-16’s and B-52’s. The Russians claim this was launched from an SU-24, so it was likely modified. Might not see another launch for a while, the Russians claim they got that plane, and one of the SU-29’s escorting it with the S-400 yesterday. At least one of those two knockdowns is confirmed by video. Thanks for that information. I wasn't aware of any possibility of modification. The suspicion from Russia is a lot of these attacks going on are being directed correlated with US/NATO If they do get definitive proof of US/NATO involvement in the planning and execution of attacks. i suppose we will get to see what happens next at that point. Dogsbollocks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77411115 Slovenia 05/13/2023 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. CHANGE THE TITLE OP! ALREADY A 5 FIFTH AIRCRAFT SHOT DOWN BY A ROGUE UKRAINIAN MANPADS SQUAD https://twitter.com/_/status/1657405981557440512 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78919163 United States 05/13/2023 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. Let me guess. Putin thought he could just march through Europe like China thinks it can march through California. These two countries obviously spent too much time on GLP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75322559 GLPtards and their Russian daddies: "Ukrainians will lay down their arms in two days! All we need do is raise a single eyebrow and they'll cower in fear!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80788652 United States 05/13/2023 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. Remember usa has tech to take down aircraft, just as russia does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75002767 So, i would not jump to conclusions about whats happened, just that russian aircraft is down. It may well be usa that did it with there techs, russia has those techs too. But the fact that its happened altogether means some sort of escalation, that russia has to adapt too. It may be ground to air stuff, but it also could be secret techs, that russia knows usa has. Good point you make right there. When the UK Storm Shadow Cruise Missile hit home. Pictures of a US missile that was also deployed at the same to fool AA systems were released. Thing about this Missile is.It can not be fired by anything Russian/Soviet SU/MiG other than a US Aircraft. Most likely an F-16. As of yet there are no F-16 s in Ukraine,or are they ? Others are speculating everything regards the attacks are being done in direct correlation between a US/NATO AWACS Plane. Serious allegations.And serious escalation if true. It was designed for F-16’s and B-52’s. The Russians claim this was launched from an SU-24, so it was likely modified. Might not see another launch for a while, the Russians claim they got that plane, and one of the SU-29’s escorting it with the S-400 yesterday. At least one of those two knockdowns is confirmed by video. Thanks for that information. I wasn't aware of any possibility of modification. The suspicion from Russia is a lot of these attacks going on are being directed correlated with US/NATO If they do get definitive proof of US/NATO involvement in the planning and execution of attacks. i suppose we will get to see what happens next at that point. Vlad Putina will be obliged to take the second glove |
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User ID: 84802739 United States 05/13/2023 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. russia was just contracted by Chyna to supply the vaunted SU 35 for 100 million godless dollars Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80788652 it would appear that the biggest casualty of this war is going to be the ruskie military industrial complex hey, how do you like them denazification as one grandpa said The Chinese can build planes… What they can’t seem to build are reliable engines. See the J-18 as an example. The Russians excel in building rugged airplanes with robust engines that don’t require an endless maintenance program. Are Russian engines batter than American engines? No, but they don’t require removal and a complete overhaul after 20-30 hours of flight time, either. And they have been adding Chinese electronics to that mix for over a decade now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83667304 05/13/2023 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. According to Russian Sources today has been the Worst Day in Decades for the Russian Air Force with 2 Mi-8 Transport Helicopters, 1 Su-34 Fighter/Bomber, and 1 Su-35 Air-Defense Fighter being Shot Down over the Bryansk Region of Western Russia by what is claimed to have been either Air-to-Air or Surface-to-Air Missiles which were Launched from Inside of Ukraine. Quoting: Dodger007 https://twitter.com/_/status/1657368327826571273 [link to twitter.com (secure)] Non story this is like world war 1 IGNORE IT WORLD WAR 2 IGNORE IT |
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User ID: 85440142 France 05/13/2023 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. If true ( “ channels” are loaded with disinfo by both sides, so…) Quoting: Dodger007 We are living in interesting times All aircrew killed ^^^^^^ True. Seen the info on reliable Russian sources. SU-34 and SU-35 are top of the line fighter jets. Germany said they will give 2.5 Billions more to Ukraine, while Zelensky is parading somewhere in Europe. I think in Rome. I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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User ID: 85440142 France 05/13/2023 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. Î am in utter disgust mode Pope Francis meets with Zelensky in Vatican — Holy See press office THE VATICAN, May 13. /TASS/. Pope Francis met with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on Saturday, the press office of the Holy See said on Saturday. According to the press service, their meeting lasted 40 minutes. -50% [link to tass.com (secure)] Phuck fake pope Jorge Bergoglio! I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365094 United States 05/13/2023 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. They been using them all along --- and ---they were destroyed. Last week, Uk said they delivered more. Read it here on GLP <---------- besides, a monkey can operate those |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85802981 United States 05/13/2023 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. • The claim that two Mi-8 transport helicopters, one Su-34 fighter/bomber, and one Su-35 air-defense fighter were shot down over the Bryansk region of Western Russia by missiles launched from inside Ukraine was widely circulated on social media and some news outlets on May 13. • However, there is no official confirmation or evidence to support this claim from either the Russian or the Ukrainian authorities. The Russian Defense Ministry denied that any of its aircraft were shot down by Ukraine and said that the reports were part of a disinformation campaign. • The only verified incident that occurred on May 13, 2023 was the crash of a Su-34 fighter/bomber in the Bryansk region due to a technical malfunction. The two pilots ejected safely and were rescued by a helicopter. The Russian Defense Ministry released a video of the crash site and the rescue operation. • The other reports of downed helicopters and planes were either based on unverified sources, false images, or old incidents that were unrelated to the current situation. For example, some of the images used to show the wreckage of a Mi-8 helicopter were actually from a crash that happened in 2019 in Siberia. Some of the videos used to show the launch of missiles from Ukraine were actually from a military exercise that took place in 2018 in Belarus. • The claim that Ukraine shot down Russian aircraft over Bryansk was likely part of a propaganda war between the two countries amid rising tensions and violence along their border. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75322559 Netherlands 05/13/2023 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. It is all a repeat of the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1980. I watched live and in person, the US move Air Defenses into Afghanistan that completely tore Russia a new as* hole. In fact, Gorbachev later admitted that it broke the Soviet Union their loss in Afghanistan. Russia will not have air superiority in Ukraine and that will be the start of their defeat. In fact, Russia's Air force would not last a day against the US alone in air power. Neither would their navy. The US plays with Russia in Ukraine it is as simple as that. Now thousands of recently trained Ukrainian troops are arriving back in Ukraine and Russia's ass is grass. Anyone with a brain (like the Wagner idiot) even knows that. The best Putin can hope for is his faction to keep Moscow because a civil war inside Russia is now a certainty just like it would be a certainty in the USA if Biden (whatever "Biden" is exactly since the old man Biden couldn't even tell you what house he is in) is allowed to run amok under the umbrella of the autocratic bureaucracy that is part of the Democrat Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organization. The FBI in the USA now has as much credibility as Putin in Moscow. Now having said that, both Russia and China is no match for a re-armed NATO. If NATO really builds out its strength Chinese ships will create new barrier reefs for fishes very soon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76658155 Romania 05/13/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. It is all a repeat of the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1980. I watched live and in person, the US move Air Defenses into Afghanistan that completely tore Russia a new as* hole. In fact, Gorbachev later admitted that it broke the Soviet Union their loss in Afghanistan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75322559 Russia will not have air superiority in Ukraine and that will be the start of their defeat. In fact, Russia's Air force would not last a day against the US alone in air power. Neither would their navy. The US plays with Russia in Ukraine it is as simple as that. Now thousands of recently trained Ukrainian troops are arriving back in Ukraine and Russia's ass is grass. Anyone with a brain (like the Wagner idiot) even knows that. The best Putin can hope for is his faction to keep Moscow because a civil war inside Russia is now a certainty just like it would be a certainty in the USA if Biden (whatever "Biden" is exactly since the old man Biden couldn't even tell you what house he is in) is allowed to run amok under the umbrella of the autocratic bureaucracy that is part of the Democrat Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organization. The FBI in the USA now has as much credibility as Putin in Moscow. Now having said that, both Russia and China is no match for a re-armed NATO. If NATO really builds out its strength Chinese ships will create new barrier reefs for fishes very soon. Meanwhile, Russians drink alot and they might start playing with nukes while drunk. Thread: "Putin is the world’s most dangerous fool" - NYT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82458309 Switzerland 05/13/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. Incompetence of Russian military for all to see Year plus of special operation in breakaway region , region they know like own house - and struggle like third world saddam -iran war. Russians will fall into pieces |
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(OP) User ID: 28000624 United States 05/13/2023 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATE: Russians Lose 4-5 Aircraft to Probable Ukrainian Sams/AAMs- Over Bryansk Russia. MAJOR Escalation. • The claim that two Mi-8 transport helicopters, one Su-34 fighter/bomber, and one Su-35 air-defense fighter were shot down over the Bryansk region of Western Russia by missiles launched from inside Ukraine was widely circulated on social media and some news outlets on May 13. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85802981 • However, there is no official confirmation or evidence to support this claim from either the Russian or the Ukrainian authorities. The Russian Defense Ministry denied that any of its aircraft were shot down by Ukraine and said that the reports were part of a disinformation campaign. • The only verified incident that occurred on May 13, 2023 was the crash of a Su-34 fighter/bomber in the Bryansk region due to a technical malfunction. The two pilots ejected safely and were rescued by a helicopter. The Russian Defense Ministry released a video of the crash site and the rescue operation. • The other reports of downed helicopters and planes were either based on unverified sources, false images, or old incidents that were unrelated to the current situation. For example, some of the images used to show the wreckage of a Mi-8 helicopter were actually from a crash that happened in 2019 in Siberia. Some of the videos used to show the launch of missiles from Ukraine were actually from a military exercise that took place in 2018 in Belarus. • The claim that Ukraine shot down Russian aircraft over Bryansk was likely part of a propaganda war between the two countries amid rising tensions and violence along their border. Thanks for this I am staying off Twatter for a while So much bullshit You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
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