Any Christians here who don't get a boner for the end of the world?

Israel is the bride, hopefully you are grafted into Israel.

Jeremiah 31:4-6
4 Israel, my bride, I will rebuild you.
You will be a country again.
You will pick up your tambourines again.
You will dance with all the other people who are having fun.
5 You farmers of Israel will plant vineyards again.
You will plant the vineyards on the hills around the city of Samaria.
The farmers will enjoy the fruit from the vineyards.
6 There will be a time when watchmen[a] shout this message:
Come, let’s go up to Zion to worship the Lord our God!’
Even the watchmen in the hill country of Ephraim will shout that message.”

Read all of Jeremiah 31. Gentiles are grafted into the olive tree, the olive tree is Israel.

Jeremiah 11:16-17
16 Yahweh called your name, “A green olive tree, beautiful with goodly fruit.”
With the noise of a great roar he has kindled fire on it, and its branches are broken.

17 For Yahweh of Armies, who planted you, has pronounced evil against you, because of the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done to themselves in provoking me to anger by offering incense to Baal.

Hosea 14:5-6
5 I will be like the dew to Israel.
He will blossom like the lily,
and send down his roots like Lebanon.
6 His branches will spread,
and his beauty will be like the olive tree,
and his fragrance like Lebanon.

MESSIAH YAHSHUA THE ROOT

Isaiah 11:10
10 It will happen in that day that the nations will seek the root of Jesse, who stands as a banner of the peoples; and his resting place will be glorious.

Revelation 22:16
16 I, Yahshua, have sent my angel to testify these things to you for the assemblies. I am the root and the offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

Romans 11:17-24
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree,

18 don’t boast over the branches. But if you boast, it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you.

19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.”

20 True; by their unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by your faith. Don’t be conceited, but fear;

21 for if God didn’t spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.

22 See then the goodness and severity of God. Toward those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness; otherwise you also will be cut off.

23 They also, if they don’t continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if you were cut out of that which is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more will these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

John 15:5
5 I am the vine. You are the branches. He who remains in me and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Christian’s need to study their BIBLES! That’s what made me leave Christianity, I was a church goer “evangelical” for years till I started reading the book myself! And questioning my Pastor, I could tell he was lying to me.

Good for you! If Catholics began to actually start studying the New Testament Gospels alone they would become "Born Again" and probably leave that Church ASAP.

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While I admit I look forward to the end of humans and animals suffering, I can't celebrate it because most people are hell bound. No Christian should getter a perverbial bones for that.

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Uhhhh, no.

But do enjoy the silly self-test woodies that happen for no reason at all.

Galations 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

That preacher puts me in mind of someone who might fall into the following category:

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;
that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Part of the first resurrection will happen around that time, but the gathering of the elect from the 4 winds of the earth is the gathering of flesh, believers that survived the Great Tribulation.

James is Yahshua’s (Jesus) brother.

James 2:24
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

Matthew 5:17-20
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [a]jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

Here’s a good teaching in the New Testament keeping of the Law. Yahshua himself taught it, Sermon on the Mount.



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James eh?
And you even think the early church were messianic J.

Rome "hijacked" the church in a sense, but the true early church (Body of Christ) still existed.

The early church were NOT messianic J.
those people are the ones that continue the ways of the "circumcision" believers in Paul's day.

Catholicism on the other hand is just the current modern day disguise of the mother, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT from all the way back to Babel.

The Messianic J are constantly trying to usurp The Church as being the true church with their misconception of the "early church" by cleverly attacking Roman Catholicism with the purpose of promoting their misconception instead, which is offering their way as the original correct way instead.
BUT IT IS ALSO FALSE.

After Jesus' resurrection, there was no difference between J and Greek (Galatians 3:28).

BUT, when Paul's ministry began, most people were "circumcision" believers, the (Israel of God), which were entitled to earthly kingdom promises.

Peter, James, and John ministered to the circumcision believers, God will keep those promises to them and not go back on his word.
Those people continued many of their old ways and passed it down.

Paul ministered to the new creature, the "one new man", the body of Christ, and they are promised to live in Heaven.
Galatians 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

They are "The Church", they were The Church in Paul's day, and they were still The Church also centuries later as the early

church when Roman Catholicism persecuted and killed more Church Saints than any other entity in history.

There has always been a Gentile remnant of "The Church" as a whole that wasn't messianic J mixing the old with the new..

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Paul was careful to preach differently to the (Israel of God) converts than to the (Gentiles and new J) converts because of the different set of promises to each group.


The Book of Acts is a book of transition of how one is saved, born again, and receives the Holy Spirit.

A transition from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant.
A transition from the promises of the physical kingdom to the spiritual kingdom.
A transition from (Israel of God) saints to the new creature (Body of Christ) saints.
A transition from Jesus, Apostle Peter, James, and John to the Apostle Paul.
A transition from Faith + Works, to just Faith Alone.

By the end of the Book of Acts, one receives the Holy Spirit at the time one believes.

Today, everyone receives the Holy Spirit the moment you are saved, when you hear and believe the Gospel as given to Paul.

Salvation is a free gift with no strings attached, you just need to accept the gift.

You’re free to choose.

Your continuing to do it your way. A real shame!

Paul is not my god.

I even have an official

I WANK
for the
Apocalypse


T-Shirt.

Or it's one dude playing Boths roles. Walk carefully

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Never thought of that one.


Noone has still clarified which one will be which.

Jesus made this clear…

“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you…….

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.”

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