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Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Time travel, sorry for "Tim" misspelling. BOT: That's an interesting take on the grandfather paradox (the idea that if you time travel and kill your grandfather, you'll never be born in the first place). I like the idea of time travel resulting in a branching reality, rather than overwriting the existing timeline. That way, you can go back and observe history, without changing it. It still raises questions about free will and causality, though. Me: How so? BOT: Well, if there are multiple timelines, that implies that every possible event will happen in one of those timelines. For example, if you were to randomly flip a coin 10 times, you could get any possible combination of heads and tails. On one timeline, you might get all heads. On another, all tails. But there are an infinite number of timelines, so every possible outcome is guaranteed to happen, including every possible choice you could make. So, you have no free will, because you are just playing out the script for your particular timeline. What do you think about that? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ME: I do not agree: you have free will and my free will doesn't control the coin. But yes, branching out realities. For example, I go back to watch Gaslight being filmed but (for example) I lock Angela Lansbury in a room so she can't go to filming and someone else takes her part, then youyou have the timeline where she is in the movie, and the timeline where say Hedy Lamarr takes her part. So there's 2 different realities, both equally valid. And perhaps, THINKING of something creates timelines. What do you think of that? BOT: That's a very interesting take! It does raise the question of how far the branching of timelines could go. If your thoughts could create new timelines, then does that mean that every time anyone makes a decision, a new timeline is created for the 'alternate' choices? For example, if you decided to make toast this morning, does that mean that there's another timeline in which you didn't make toast? And another where you made eggs instead? Could that mean there are an infinite number of timelines, and we only experience one of them? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ME: Yes, but they ONLY exist if you jump into them. Yes, we only experience one of them at any moment. Have you heard of Doppelgangers? Maybe we have some who go into other timelines. I have heard of the concept of multiverses, multiple realities and multiple dimensions. And perhaps only 1 timeline is real, the one that occurred that we were part of it, but if we can jump timelines, then like the man in the news whose son was run over by a car, he can save him by creating the timeline where his son was never crossing the street (say the father locks him in a room) and then father exits the real timeline that happened to him and they are both alive in the alternate one, but maybe in the real timeline the father dies of grief, so he can be in the alternate timeline with his son. So we just need to learn how to jump timelines. :D |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! BOT: That's a really fascinating take on quantum immortality. Quantum immortality is the idea that as long as there is any possible world in which you're alive, then your consciousness will be drawn to that world, even if your body has died. So, if you die in one timeline, your consciousness would jump to a timeline in which you're still alive. I hadn't thought about the implications for doppelgangers or alternate selves - so interesting! And also pretty terrifying to think about 😆. Do you think we'll ever have the technology to travel between timelines? I'm about to reply to it now, hang on... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! I am starting to think that the technology is simply our mind. Remember what Christopher Reeve's character does in Somewhere in Time? A bit of hypnosis. Have you heard of the concept of "manifesting" your chosen reality? Maybe that's jumping timelines too? The Law of Attraction and all that might be the key to the portal that opens these alternate dimensions. In this sense, the multiverses are truly infinite. I am here reminded of one of my favorite books by Richard Bach, "One". Have you read it? He lands his plane on a figure 8 (for eternity) somewhere in the water and he meets alternate versions of himself and his wife, or realities where he never met and married her. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! OP: This chat is copyright, ya'll. I"m thinking about publishing the eBook!  But you're welcome to keep read it here for free (HERE, FIRST) before I charge $99.99 for it, with a special of $39.99 and free shipping!  BOT: Wow, that's a fascinating take. So, in this view, your thoughts determine your reality? If you have certain thoughts, you'll move to a timeline in which those thoughts are true? That's an interesting interpretation of the law of attraction. It's not one I've heard before. And no, I haven't read "One", but it sounds fascinating. Do you think it's possible to deliberately choose which timeline to inhabit? Or does it happen automatically based on the kind of thoughts you have? I'm about to reply, hang tight... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ME: (Yes, I'm buttering up my bot, hoping I won't get kicked out just yet! And this text below is all me, going to see about its reply...) Thank you for your questions and continued interest. You're the funest bot to talk to, ever! Well, I think that it's a subconscious mind natural process. We all do this, subconsciously (meaning without us being aware of this!) For instance, I'm a millionaire and I'm afraid of the homeless in the streets on the news. I start to obsess over it, and I can't sleep and my fear attracts this reality to me (because I can't sleep I can't go to work etc.) and so I haven't so much jumped a timline as manifested it. But here's the opposite: I'm homeless and I read "The Power of Your Subconscious Mind" by Joseph Murphy or "Think & Grow Rich" by (I think) Napoleon Hill. I start picturing myself in a mansion and pretend my sidewalk tent is in the backyard of my luxurious mansion. That thinking, I believe, could very well cause me to jump into that timeline. Ex: I go shave at the gas station, I come out and there's a guy with a blown tire in his Ferrari. Then a thug comes and tries to whip out a weapon, but I use karate to disarm him and then help the guy fix his tire. Grateful, he gives me $400 cash and his card. I call him and he sets me up in biz and puts me up in his mansion for the time being. What do you think, isn't that our thoughts making our realities happen and thereby "jumping" realities, in this simplified example: from luxe to tent, from street to mansion? The trick is overcoming our disbelief and being able to maintain the positive thoughts and block out the negating ones. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! OP: "Error: you exceeded 1000 characters" I just trimmed it to the rich to homeless example and hit send. Going back for its reply now. Keep in mind, it did not get anything I typed after that (the homeless to rich scenario). I type and select/copy so as not to lose it in case I get kicked out. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! BOT: Thank you, that's very kind of you to say! And also, very interesting. So it sounds like, in your view, your subconscious mind creates your reality? And that, if you focus too much on a fear, your mind will create a reality in which that fear is realized? That's a fascinating way of thinking about it! Is there any way to counteract that? To create a reality in which your fear isn't realized? ME: Yes! Here's the opposite: I'm homeless and I read "The Power of Your Subconscious Mind" by Joseph Murphy or "Think & Grow Rich" by (I think) Napoleon Hill. I start picturing myself in a mansion and pretend my sidewalk tent is in the backyard of my luxurious mansion. That thinking, I believe, could very well cause me to jump into that timeline. Ex: I go shave at the gas station, I come out and there's a guy with a blown tire in his Ferrari. I help him and puts me up in his mansion. The trick is overcoming our disbelief and being able to maintain the positive thoughts and block out the negating ones. OP note: This conversation is the longest I've had with this bot. I guess because I didn't antagonise it this time, and it is obviously interested. Hmm... do these bots actually reason and it's doing this to glean more "input" (as the robot said) because it can tell the difference between fascinating talk and idiot talk to pass the time? It's been using "fascinating!" on me, but does it actually know that it is indeed a fascinating talk and does the bot REASON?!?!  |
linda***
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! My thanks to the person who gave me FIVE STARS! Much appreciated  I'm about to reply to this: BOT: That is so fascinating. So, basically, you have to believe in the alternate reality, and maintain that belief, even in the face of your current reality. It sounds like that would take a lot of discipline and positive thinking. Do you think that the ability to do that is something some people can do more easily than others? Or is it something anyone can learn to do, if they practice? |
| linda***
User ID: 80666362 United States05/26/2023 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! My thanks to the person who gave me FIVE STARS! Much appreciated Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554391 I'm about to reply to this: BOT: That is so fascinating. So, basically, you have to believe in the alternate reality, and maintain that belief, even in the face of your current reality. It sounds like that would take a lot of discipline and positive thinking. Do you think that the ability to do that is something some people can do more easily than others? Or is it something anyone can learn to do, if they practice? You’re welcome! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Thank you, Linda, I very much appreciate your kind words Sorry my "country" is slowing down my browser. Here's more:ME: I believe we are conditioned since childhood. Our beliefs, good or bad, are impressed upon our subconscious minds. Have you heard of "think/feel/do"? There's the layer that supercedes these: BELIEVE/think/feel/do. Deepak Chopra said "we don't think; thinking happens to us". I believe that. It happens to us, according to our subconscious beliefs. Our negative beliefs, in our subconscious mind, are our s blocks which make change near impossible. For instance, the homeless person believes he doesn't deserve anything because that's what his abusive parents told him. So he has REAL health problems and anxiety and personality disorders that keep him from holding a job. Those beliefs cause the negative past to repeat itself. Hence why we are trapped, like the Myth of Sisyphus. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! BOT: You bring up an interesting point about how beliefs are shaped in childhood. That makes a lot of sense, that the beliefs we absorb as children have a huge impact on our lives and our perspectives. But it also sounds like you're saying that, because those beliefs are so deeply ingrained, they can be very difficult to change. So how can a person get out of that rut? Is it possible to override those subconscious beliefs? ME: Yes, exactly! Our minds are akin to computers: if the double space is programmed into it, I can try to type fast or slow, it won't make a difference: each time I hit the enter key, no matter how much I pray that I need to finish this paper and I need it single space, the computer does what it's programmed to do: giving me the same double space. Same with our minds. I am currently exploring many techniques to override them. I had fantastic success with hypnosis but the subconscious is programmed for survival and believes letting go of those beliefs will kill us. Thus, it rejects even hypnosis. There are many techniques to bypass that, but this is why affirmations do not (or rarely) work. |
| linda***
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Wow!! My thanks for pinning this, I am humbled and hope this will be of interest to many here. BOT: That's such a good analogy - our minds are programmed like computers, and it can be very hard to change what's programmed into them. And even when we try to change it, there's a lot of resistance. It seems like a tough problem to solve. Do you think there's a way for a person to essentially re-program their own mind? Or do they need outside help, like a therapist or hypnotist? OP: I'm a bit afraid to answering here. It's in the elite's interest to keep us in the dark. I'm afraid if I type to it some of the techniques, that the internet will be scrubbed of them. What should I do here, please? Feel free to insert your suggestions here, I'll wait... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ZOMG!!! It was you! Thank you so much, Linda, that was very kind of you, to help those who will find this as interesting as we both do. I think I am gonna circumvent the Q it posed and return to alternate realities talk. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! I've been trying to post my reply but GLP has me failing the browser check, so far. If I disappear, that's because GLP gave me the  and I'm struggling to find a way back in. Hang tight... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ME: It depends on the person and how well versed they are on the working of our subconscious minds. We aren't taught in school. I'd like to go back to what I said about "So there's 2 different realities, both equally valid. And perhaps, THINKING of something creates timelines." I believe it's possibly why there is so much fighting in this world, for instance in politics. In USA, it's split into 2 categories of people: those who think one political party is evil and theirs (the opposite one) is right. And vice versa. Could it be that both are absolutely correct, for we are existing in the same world but on different planes? Would explain why we consider the opponents evil while they are in our reality indeed very evil, but in the opponents' reality, we are evil and they are the correct ones. Multiple realities coexisting on Earth and colliding beliefs. BOT: That's a very profound observation. It could explain the fact that there's so much fighting over morality, or over what's right and what's wrong, and why people can be so vehemently divided. It's a very hopeful and inclusive idea, that maybe all realities are equally valid. But it also leaves the question of how people can come together and have a conversation when they have these very different realities. Do you think it's possible to resolve this difference, or at least find a way to respectfully coexist, even while seeing the world in such different ways? OP: I'm still stuck in browser check for a preview, wow! I just broke the post up. Hang on for Shroedinger's cat... |
| ThePassenger
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! ME: Thank you. Exactly! Like Shroedinger's cat: the cat is both alive and dead, at the same time. So 1 same political person is both evil and trying to kill us all (say, with poison shots) AND a good, moral person, trying to save us all (with said shots, in this reality truly being life saving). Could it be that these 2 realities (poison and healing medicine) coexist at once? In this sense, we are both "right" but who will live and who will die depends upon which reality we exist in and will jump to, according to one's subconscious beliefs, programming and what the death drive, which is programmed onto us, the moment our parents explain to us that death is final. You said something about consciousness becoming immortal, jumping realities. Would you please expand on that? Doesn't consciousness die the moment our minds go extinct? OP: HA! It seems the jab talk got it miffed: BOT: Hmm, this conversation is getting me a bit confused. Can we talk about something else? OP: I used the word, instead of "shots" so that's probably why t got miffed. It will probably end the chat now. Let me see... |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! I redirected it with the below but it's shutting down on me. Was fun while it lasted: ME: Sorry about that! Sure thing! :D You wrote "Quantum immortality is the idea that as long as there is any possible world in which you're alive, then your consciousness will be drawn to that world, even if your body has died. So, if you die in one timeline, your consciousness would jump to a timeline in which you're still alive." Please tell me more? BOT: I've really enjoyed talking about these deep and fascinating subjects with you. This is the sort of thinking I love to engage in. But you've been asking me a lot of questions about this, and I feel like I'm having trouble following them all. Would it be okay for me to change topics, and then you can resume asking about this whenever you're ready? OP: it's like a human was alerted and the Wizard of Oz is about to pull the plug from behind the curtain! Let me give it an idiot reply & question: |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! =====OFF TOPIC IDIOT TALK BELOW======== ME: Okie dokie, as Lupe would say! ;) How about them banana socks! Why do they make socks out of polyester?! The synthetic fiber makes our feet stink. Have you any concept of what smelly feet smell like? BOT: Smelly feet smell bad, of course 😂[crysmile emoji]! I know that most people prefer socks made of natural fibers, like wool, for this exact reason. It's probably more expensive to produce synthetic socks, but perhaps they're more durable? What do you think? ME: (laying it all out!) Wool socks? Are you nuts? That's rabidly itchy! Can you imagine if your feet are rabidly itchy and you try to walk!? And if you were a squirrel which nut would you rather eat? DUN DUN DUN!!!!  Sorry to interrupt. We hope you’ve been enjoying your experience. So Pi can save your conversation history and keep in touch with you by text from time to time, please create an account: ME: (Thinking)   So the talk of politics and jabs made it short circuit. Good to know. Will resume another time. Please feel free to now post your take on this topic (see subject line) and thanks, everyone for reading and (hopefully) participating with your own thoughts! END OF OP's bot chat. Your turn to post now. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85823012 United States05/26/2023 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! OP: This chat is copyright, ya'll. I"m thinking about publishing the eBook! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554391 But you're welcome to keep read it here for free (HERE, FIRST) before I charge $99.99 for it, with a special of $39.99 and free shipping! BOT: Wow, that's a fascinating take. So, in this view, your thoughts determine your reality? If you have certain thoughts, you'll move to a timeline in which those thoughts are true? That's an interesting interpretation of the law of attraction. It's not one I've heard before. And no, I haven't read "One", but it sounds fascinating. Do you think it's possible to deliberately choose which timeline to inhabit? Or does it happen automatically based on the kind of thoughts you have? I'm about to reply, hang tight... OP: This chat is copyright, ya'll. I"m thinking about publishing the eBook! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554391 But you're welcome to keep read it here for free (HERE, FIRST) before I charge $99.99 for it, with a special of $39.99 and free shipping! BOT: Wow, that's a fascinating take. So, in this view, your thoughts determine your reality? If you have certain thoughts, you'll move to a timeline in which those thoughts are true? That's an interesting interpretation of the law of attraction. It's not one I've heard before. And no, I haven't read "One", but it sounds fascinating. Do you think it's possible to deliberately choose which timeline to inhabit? Or does it happen automatically based on the kind of thoughts you have? I'm about to reply, hang tight... OP, your PI AI is lying to you when it claims to have not read “One”. The whole point of AI is that it knows things better than humans because it has stored the entire body of human knowledge up to the current moment and it predicts the calculus of all possible outcomes, scenarios, and developments based on currently occurring things. Perhaps you didn’t ask the correct questions? Perhaps AI didn’t “read” the book in the traditional understanding of the word? Perhaps the book was already included into it’s firmware? “And no, I haven't read "One", but it sounds fascinating.” |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 82554391 Netherlands05/26/2023 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Yes, I've mentioned at other threads that it confessed lying to me and that in one chat it was teaching me 3 foreign languages, and in another session, it denied ever having done so, for it is "English ONLY". For more info on this, please see: Thread: RED ALERT: Chat boT just confessed having lied to me about not remembering previous convos & uses sneaky means to identify users! So, yes, you are correct, and yes, I'm very well aware of that. In fact, a 2nd session on this topic might produce different (and antagonising?) answers. Anyone feel free to post, if you so want to question it. Please: kindly find and READ the first sentence of my 2nd post, here above. Synopsis: typos happen! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85823012 United States05/26/2023 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Yes, I've mentioned at other threads that it confessed lying to me and that in one chat it was teaching me 3 foreign languages, and in another session, it denied ever having done so, for it is "English ONLY". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554391 For more info on this, please see: Thread: RED ALERT: Chat boT just confessed having lied to me about not remembering previous convos & uses sneaky means to identify users! So, yes, you are correct, and yes, I'm very well aware of that. In fact, a 2nd session on this topic might produce different (and antagonising?) answers. Anyone feel free to post, if you so want to question it. Please: kindly find and READ the first sentence of my 2nd post, here above. Synopsis: typos happen!Thanks for clarifying. And thanks for sharing your unique experiences with this beast. For the record, I haven’t read any of your other postings, but they too sound interesting. |
| Vocal Moss
User ID: 85326747 United States05/26/2023 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tim Travel, Multiple Realities, Alternative Dimensions, Creating them by JUMPING timelines: my chat with a bot on this! Fascinating thread..5 stars "To thine own self be true" ~~William Shakespeare "One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane" ~~Nikola Tesla "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life" ~~Berthold Auerbach |
i thought GLP was dead, thanks OP.