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'Kevin Caved': McCarthy Savaged Over Debt Ceiling Deal With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?

 
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Update (1345ET): The hits just keep coming for Speaker Kevin McCarthy, as angry Republicans have been outright rejecting the debt ceiling deal which raises it by roughly $4 trillion for two years, doesn't provide sticking points sought by the GOP.

In short, Kevin caved according to his detractors.

BTW, were your voters clamoring for a $88 billion hike in the defense budget as part of a debt deal?

What about affirming 97.6% of the $80 billion for the IRS; 4 months after the Clown House Vote to repeal the $80?

Maybe you have polling that I don't have.

I am just asking.

— Yossi Gestetner (@YossiGestetner) May 28, 2023
Caved pic.twitter.com/ZRrwvCkgE4

— VK (@vjeannek) May 28, 2023
pic.twitter.com/4G4DgPHjte

— #NeverForget911 (@TweepleBug) May 28, 2023
someone should come up with a saying for that USE_REAL_LINKNkdPJkebxD

— Michael Malice (@michaelmalice) May 28, 2023
With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats? USE_REAL_LINKEFpSkh2N8q

— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) May 28, 2023
“McCarthy called the deal a ‘big win,’ claiming Democrats didn’t get “one thing” that they wanted out of the negotiations.”

… except increasing debt another $4 trillion …

… and to bear no responsibility for it in the 2024 election season.

Except for those little things. pic.twitter.com/MmG3LNuAnr

— Rep. Dan Bishop (@RepDanBishop) May 28, 2023
Some Democrats aren't exactly pleased either.

"None of the things in the bill are Democratic priorities," Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) told Fox News Sunday. "That's not a surprise, given that we're now in the minority. But the obvious point here, and the speaker didn't say this, the reason it may have some traction with some Democrats is that it's a very small bill."

“None of the things in the bill are Democrat priorities.”

—Democrat Rep. Jim Himes pic.twitter.com/WwJUepNhBg

— Chad Gilmartin (@ChadGilmartinCA) May 28, 2023


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Re: 'Kevin Caved': McCarthy Savaged Over Debt Ceiling Deal With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?
Here's what's in it;

The deal raises the debt ceiling by roughly $4 trillion for two years, and is consistent with the structure of budget deals struck in 2015, 2018 and 2019 which simultaneously raised the debt limit.

According to a GOP one-pager on the deal, it includes a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to FY2022 levels, while capping topline federal spending to 1% annual growth for six years.

After 2025 there are no budget caps, only "non-enforceable appropriations targets."

Defense spending would be in-line with what Biden requested in his 2024 budget proposal - roughly $900 billion.

The deal fully funds medical care for veterans, including the

Toxic Exposure Fund through the bipartisan PACT Act.

The agreement increases the age for which food stamp recipients must seek work to be eligible, from 49 to 54, but also includes reforms to expand who is eligible.

Claws back "tens of billions" in unspent COVID-19 funds

Cuts IRS funding 'without nixing the full $80 billion' approved last year. According to the GOP, the deal will "nix the total FY23 staffing funding request for new IRS agents."

The deal includes energy permitting reform demanded by
Republicans and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)

No new taxes, according to McCarthy.

Here's McCarthy acting like it's not DOA:


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WE EVER GOING TO AUDIT DEFENSE.
STILL WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 3 TRILLION MR.RUMSFELD.
CAN'T EVEN DETECT A FKN BALLOON
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WE EVER GOING TO AUDIT DEFENSE.
STILL WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 3 TRILLION MR.RUMSFELD.
CAN'T EVEN DETECT A FKN BALLOON
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Here's what's in it;

The deal raises the debt ceiling by roughly $4 trillion for two years, and is consistent with the structure of budget deals struck in 2015, 2018 and 2019 which simultaneously raised the debt limit.

According to a GOP one-pager on the deal, it includes a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to FY2022 levels, while capping topline federal spending to 1% annual growth for six years.

After 2025 there are no budget caps, only "non-enforceable appropriations targets."

Defense spending would be in-line with what Biden requested in his 2024 budget proposal - roughly $900 billion.

The deal fully funds medical care for veterans, including the

Toxic Exposure Fund through the bipartisan PACT Act.

The agreement increases the age for which food stamp recipients must seek work to be eligible, from 49 to 54, but also includes reforms to expand who is eligible.

Claws back "tens of billions" in unspent COVID-19 funds

Cuts IRS funding 'without nixing the full $80 billion' approved last year. According to the GOP, the deal will "nix the total FY23 staffing funding request for new IRS agents."

The deal includes energy permitting reform demanded by
Republicans and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)

No new taxes, according to McCarthy.

Here's McCarthy acting like it's not DOA:



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It's not DOA because the Dems only need 5 Republicans to vote with them on this.

Including McCarthy that makes 4.

See how little it matters we got such a slim majority of the house?

When you add the RINOs to the mix were outnumber 5-1.

This likely passes with over 400votes in the House.
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Cavin Kevin surrendered the power of the purse to the executive branch. The last bit of leverage the government has to prevent tyranny is gone.

The people have lost all power to be governed by the consent of the people. It’s gone
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Here's what's in it;

The deal raises the debt ceiling by roughly $4 trillion for two years, and is consistent with the structure of budget deals struck in 2015, 2018 and 2019 which simultaneously raised the debt limit.

According to a GOP one-pager on the deal, it includes a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to FY2022 levels, while capping topline federal spending to 1% annual growth for six years.

After 2025 there are no budget caps, only "non-enforceable appropriations targets."

Defense spending would be in-line with what Biden requested in his 2024 budget proposal - roughly $900 billion.

The deal fully funds medical care for veterans, including the

Toxic Exposure Fund through the bipartisan PACT Act.

The agreement increases the age for which food stamp recipients must seek work to be eligible, from 49 to 54, but also includes reforms to expand who is eligible.

Claws back "tens of billions" in unspent COVID-19 funds

Cuts IRS funding 'without nixing the full $80 billion' approved last year. According to the GOP, the deal will "nix the total FY23 staffing funding request for new IRS agents."

The deal includes energy permitting reform demanded by
Republicans and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)

No new taxes, according to McCarthy.

Here's McCarthy acting like it's not DOA:



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84407228


It's not DOA because the Dems only need 5 Republicans to vote with them on this.

Including McCarthy that makes 4.

See how little it matters we got such a slim majority of the house?

When you add the RINOs to the mix were outnumber 5-1.

This likely passes with over 400votes in the House.
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No it won’t be 400. Scoring political points on both sides will keep it to about a 220 plus narrow passage but yeah democrats will be the responsible party as this is their win.

McCarthy is in trouble. He blew his wad here and wasn’t much of a blow in the end.
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Note to many, MANY, Future Generations...... You Are SO Screwed.
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the economy is going to collapse if they stall it out past deadline, libs will say that was the reason and not a failed 4 years.
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Just like all other Republicans.

Two sides of the same fucking coin.

But OP is an illiterate moron anyway.

Watch.
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Just like all other Republicans.

Two sides of the same fucking coin.

But OP is an illiterate moron anyway.

Watch.
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You sidewaysOP
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I don't know why the only country in the entire world with a straight forward, amazing Constitution allows the farce of Washington DC to continue.
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SOOOO WHEN CAN I EXPECT MY MONEY BACK? This is delusion. THIS GOVT IS NOT US. THEY DON'T WORK FOR US.
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So:
1. Default and go into economic collapse now
2. Default at the end of debt deal in 18 months, and go into slightly worse economic collapse then

Everything is going to collapse eventually, it's just a matter of when. At least these satanists kicking the can down the road is giving us more time to prepare
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We are increasing the debt or digging a bigger hole. But you keep believing your politicians. Look at the grocery and electricity bills. Inflation and home prices.
TAXPAYERS never win when your money is taken at gun point.
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Here's what's in it;

The deal raises the debt ceiling by roughly $4 trillion for two years, and is consistent with the structure of budget deals struck in 2015, 2018 and 2019 which simultaneously raised the debt limit.

According to a GOP one-pager on the deal, it includes a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to FY2022 levels, while capping topline federal spending to 1% annual growth for six years.

After 2025 there are no budget caps, only "non-enforceable appropriations targets."

Defense spending would be in-line with what Biden requested in his 2024 budget proposal - roughly $900 billion.

The deal fully funds medical care for veterans, including the

Toxic Exposure Fund through the bipartisan PACT Act.

The agreement increases the age for which food stamp recipients must seek work to be eligible, from 49 to 54, but also includes reforms to expand who is eligible.

Claws back "tens of billions" in unspent COVID-19 funds

Cuts IRS funding 'without nixing the full $80 billion' approved last year. According to the GOP, the deal will "nix the total FY23 staffing funding request for new IRS agents."

The deal includes energy permitting reform demanded by
Republicans and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)

No new taxes, according to McCarthy.

Here's McCarthy acting like it's not DOA:



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84407228


It's not DOA because the Dems only need 5 Republicans to vote with them on this.

Including McCarthy that makes 4.

See how little it matters we got such a slim majority of the house?

When you add the RINOs to the mix were outnumber 5-1.

This likely passes with over 400votes in the House.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78790141


probably not...this will be one of those dawgs that the RINOS use....you figure out who is the most vulnerable and you let him vote against it as cover come election time.

You get enough safe seats that you can pass it, and the rest can lie to their constituents about how they were against it.
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I don't know why the only country in the entire world with a straight forward, amazing Constitution allows the farce of Washington DC to continue.
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hesright
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Juan was here cause OP bimps his own threads
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