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Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?

 
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Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Seems the ptb dont like peacemakers. For that matter there are regular folk who dont like them too much either. Why is that you think ?
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


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people like the adversity, the challenges, the ability to overcome... it makes them feel a hero.

When my daughter was a few months old, there was a video taken of a woman beating her kid outside of Wal-Mart. A few weeks later, some self proclaimed savior of everything pulled along side my car... my daughter was crying and I was trying to comfort her, distract her with a rattle, whatever I could do to be able to drive without a serious distraction. He started to yell and curse and swear at me to stop beating my child... he almost ran his vehicle INTO mine.

People have their own complexes which they project upon the world and see themselves as the good-guy, and ANYONE else they chose to be as the evil-suppressor.

Seems the ptb dont like peacemakers. For that matter there are regular folk who dont like them too much either. Why is that you think ?
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people like the adversity, the challenges, the ability to overcome... it makes them feel a hero.

When my daughter was a few months old, there was a video taken of a woman beating her kid outside of Wal-Mart. A few weeks later, some self proclaimed savior of everything pulled along side my car... my daughter was crying and I was trying to comfort her, distract her with a rattle, whatever I could do to be able to drive without a serious distraction. He started to yell and curse and swear at me to stop beating my child... he almost ran his vehicle INTO mine.

People have their own complexes which they project upon the world and see themselves as the good-guy, and ANYONE else they chose to be as the evil-suppressor.


Seems the ptb dont like peacemakers. For that matter there are regular folk who dont like them too much either. Why is that you think ?

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Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Except in his mind.

BTW... I like the unintended pun... "peace maker" is I believe an old reference to wild west and Colt 45's... I think that's the model type...

Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Except in his mind.

BTW... I like the unintended pun... "peace maker" is I believe an old reference to wild west and Colt 45's... I think that's the model type...



Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol

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Only problem with the gun peacemaker is that some people are suicidal and they dont scare with a gun pointed at them. they are truly nuts. A crazy person who is fearless of weapons is very dangerous.
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


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Only a miracle will save us now.


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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
and dead if the person being attacked is any kind of a shot.

Only problem with the gun peacemaker is that some people are suicidal and they dont scare with a gun pointed at them. they are truly nuts. A crazy person who is fearless of weapons is very dangerous.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
and dead if the person being attacked is any kind of a shot.



Only problem with the gun peacemaker is that some people are suicidal and they dont scare with a gun pointed at them. they are truly nuts. A crazy person who is fearless of weapons is very dangerous.

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Yes i know ...but they are having some problems with that in Iraq now days. Too many suicidal bombers. It is nothing new ...goes back a long time in human history.
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


[link to www.youtube.com]

Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
questions are false

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Yes but who has reached that level to know that with no doubt ? has there ever been anyone ?
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


[link to www.youtube.com]

Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
ugh.. I know.. looked it up once when they thought it first happened...

well, on THAT lovely thought (of being blown to smitherienes... where ever DID that term come from?)

It's crash time! Gona hit the sack and kick some sheep out of bed.
Yes i know ...but they are having some problems with that in Iraq now days. Too many suicidal bombers. It is nothing new ...goes back a long time in human history.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Except in his mind.

BTW... I like the unintended pun... "peace maker" is I believe an old reference to wild west and Colt 45's... I think that's the model type...



Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol

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Yep, Colt Single Action Army in .45 caliber.

Thing is, who is a real peacemaker nowadays? Jimmy Carter? He's a blithering dick. Who else? what world leader or prominent effective "peacemaker" is out there on the world scene?
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Except in his mind.

BTW... I like the unintended pun... "peace maker" is I believe an old reference to wild west and Colt 45's... I think that's the model type...



Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol


Yep, Colt Single Action Army in .45 caliber.

Thing is, who is a real peacemaker nowadays? Jimmy Carter? He's a blithering dick. Who else? what world leader or prominent effective "peacemaker" is out there on the world scene?
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No peace maker in all human history was always liked 100 percent by all the people. Even Jesus was thought of as a devil at first.

Everyone will always think there are ulterior motives.
Man's symbiotic connection with the cosmos will be known and there is nothing which can stop that knowing. Because everything we all do everyday helps confirm that truth. It is just that we haven't reached the pinnacle of where it leads. But we will soon enough. We will either live or die with that knowledge. Between Heaven and Earth is us.

Be brave young warriors in truth.


[link to www.youtube.com]

Only a miracle will save us now.


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
The only one I can bring to mind is dead a few years now.... otherwise, Blair? NO. Bush? NONONONO. any of the others that aren't so little I don't know their names with out surfing the web? no.

Ghandi and all the others are long dead.
Yep, Colt Single Action Army in .45 caliber.

Thing is, who is a real peacemaker nowadays? Jimmy Carter? He's a blithering dick. Who else? what world leader or prominent effective "peacemaker" is out there on the world scene?
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
Seems the ptb dont like peacemakers. For that matter there are regular folk who dont like them too much either. Why is that you think ?
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Rightly so. Peacemakers disrupt the natural fabric as much as the war mongers. Left to perfect comfort, we fall apart as easily as when exposed to extreme destruction. We seem to need some lack of peace as much as we need a certain amount of safety, so while we all long for peace, and praise peacemakers, on some level we know they are dangerous to our growth, and we'll fight them as aggressively as we'll fight someone that threatens our survival.
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Need for adversity to survive. Need for something/one to overcome to progress.
Need for someone to fight to feel alive. This is why some married couples bicker all the time then die within minutes to weeks of each other.??

Rightly so. Peacemakers disrupt the natural fabric as much as the war mongers. Left to perfect comfort, we fall apart as easily as when exposed to extreme destruction. We seem to need some lack of peace as much as we need a certain amount of safety, so while we all long for peace, and praise peacemakers, on some level we know they are dangerous to our growth, and we'll fight them as aggressively as we'll fight someone that threatens our survival.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
TRuth has never had the welcome mat laid out.. tomato
Any Great Peacmakers had Truth guided by loves hand.

Truth is the Medicine that never tastes to good...
Love guides the hand..
Truth brakes the grip of tyrany and greed..
Love guides the hand..
Truth is the rain that washes away the lies..
Love guides the hand..

Truth is love creates waves sometimes..Peace is flowing rather than end.. hf
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Except in his mind.

BTW... I like the unintended pun... "peace maker" is I believe an old reference to wild west and Colt 45's... I think that's the model type...



Well he was not being too good of a peacemaker. In my opinion a true peacemaker should go slow and find out all the facts of something first before jumping to conclusions. That guy wasnt a peacemaker he was a drama queen lol


Yep, Colt Single Action Army in .45 caliber.

Thing is, who is a real peacemaker nowadays? Jimmy Carter? He's a blithering dick. Who else? what world leader or prominent effective "peacemaker" is out there on the world scene?



No peace maker in all human history was always liked 100 percent by all the people. Even Jesus was thought of as a devil at first.

Everyone will always think there are ulterior motives.
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It's because so many fundamentalist Christians believe that there first has to come an antichrist who makes peace. So who would want to even try?

Anyone who brought peace would get condemned as the antichrist. It's a no-win situation.
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Re: Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?
"Do you think that in this world to be a peacemaker is to be a troublemaker?"

... lol, you betcha.


Seems the ptb dont like peacemakers. For that matter there are regular folk who dont like them too much either. Why is that you think ?
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... well gee... lol, and cuz every spoiled little brat full well knows that if peace is made they ain't a'gonna get what they want when they want it.





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