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The actor and comedian behind the popular Mr. Bean character has called on drivers to hold off buying an electric vehicle (EV), saying the environmental benefits do not stack up.

Rowan Atkinson, a long-time motor enthusiast with a degree and master’s in electrical engineering, said current EV technology was more harmful to the environment than it was worth.

“Increasingly, I’m feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that’s no bad thing: we’re realising that a wider range of options need to be explored if we’re going to properly address the very serious environmental problems that our use of the motor car has created,” Atkinson wrote in The Guardian newspaper.


He pointed to figures released by automotive giant Volvo revealing that greenhouse gas emissions during the EV production process were 70 percent higher than building a petrol car.


“How so?” Atkinson said.

“The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all-electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they are estimated to last only upwards of 10 years.


He also pointed to current efforts to develop newer technologies, like solid-state batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and synthetic fuels, but noted more time was needed before they became mainstream.

Atkinson said a bigger problem beyond technology was the current three-year leasing model for car ownership, where owners move onto a new car at the end of the timeframe.

“This seems an outrageously profligate use of the world’s natural resources when you consider what great condition a three-year-old car is in,” Atkinson said, saying owners could just learn to use their cars for longer instead, effectively lowering demand for new vehicles.



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Rowan Atkinson is a libtard tosser. I look at this as an example of the phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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I thought he died in 2013..

Pleasantly surprised that that is not the case.
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:Mr bean:
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Lithium ion batteries are garbage but I don't see how they can cause more pollution than a combustion engine
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Off topic but anyone else remember Rowan Atkinson, Mr Bean, passing away a few years ago? Weird that he is alive again.
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Off topic but anyone else remember Rowan Atkinson, Mr Bean, passing away a few years ago? Weird that he is alive again.
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Lithium ion batteries are garbage but I don't see how they can cause more pollution than a combustion engine
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From extraction to processing to refining to production x limited life. You could drive a new efficient ICE vehicle like a Mazda 3 over 200k miles before the CO2 emissions would be higher than electric version given an electric car will need a new battery 2 times for 200k miles.
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Off topic but anyone else remember Rowan Atkinson, Mr Bean, passing away a few years ago? Weird that he is alive again.
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It's those click-bait ads in the borders of your web browser saying things like "The world says goodbye to Mr. Bean" to get you to click. Don't be a victim!
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He didn't master EV til he went to China. Soduin ion batteries are next shht. No more Lithuim mining.
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Lithium ion batteries are garbage but I don't see how they can cause more pollution than a combustion engine
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Thats because you are a total fucking dumbfuck idiot.

And its dumfucks like you they COUNT ON to make them RICH.

COCKHEAD.
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He didn't master EV til he went to China. Soduin ion batteries are next shht. No more Lithuim mining.
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Bullshit. There's a very simple reason sodium ion batteries are not used in cellphones, power tools, basically everything...
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Rowan Atkinson is a libtard tosser. I look at this as an example of the phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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Are you restarted, it’s the frickin libtards that are pushing EVs on everyone, WTF?
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Lithium ion batteries are garbage but I don't see how they can cause more pollution than a combustion engine
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Thats because you are a total fucking dumbfuck idiot.

And its dumfucks like you they COUNT ON to make them RICH.

COCKHEAD.
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Go and huff some more exhaust fumes apeface
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THE ANSWER:

Nothing wrong with an EV in concept, but supporting day to day operation of the SOB is where the issues start.

Solar Cell technology is the answer to EVs.

We need solar panels that are capable of charging the thing automatically, while driving and parked.

Incorporate that into an EV, I’ll buy one that very instant!!
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Lithium ion batteries are garbage but I don't see how they can cause more pollution than a combustion engine
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Because they use rare earths - which basically means pulverizing tons and tons of ore and then chemically extracting the minute quantities of the desired element

An EV will need to be driven 60,000 miles before it will have an equivalent foot print of a gas vehicle - and that is ONLY if the EV is charged 100% from renewable resources ( which have their own carbon footprint) If you charge from a fossil plant its even worse

The problem with leftists is tat they are like cavemen. If they find a berry bush they assume the berry bush is "theirs" - no one planted it or tended it. Same goes for a Factory, or a EV

They never ask "how did this get here and at what cost?" - nope its always " its here now, so its mine."
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Cunning plan...
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How come it took him this long to work out, that electric cars are bad for environment?

The batteries are seriously toxic
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THE ANSWER:

Nothing wrong with an EV in concept, but supporting day to day operation of the SOB is where the issues start.

Solar Cell technology is the answer to EVs.

We need solar panels that are capable of charging the thing automatically, while driving and parked.

Incorporate that into an EV, I’ll buy one that very instant!!
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Locomotion is very energy intensive. EV batteries tend to be 60 KW-HR or larger. TO fully charge such a battery from current solar tech would require a 12K array.-This is around 32 3x5 panels with current tech. Current panels convert about 25% of the energy hitting them to electric power. If you could make them 100% efficient - you would still need 8 of those imaginary panels to keep a charge full charge and only if they were in full sun all day long. And those are the "summer" numbers. Way worse in the winter

The hybrid engines are a good idea - but 100% EV makes no sense. The bettery tech just isn't good enough. We need something 50% lighter for the same power density and which doesn't wear out after 10-15 years, and which can be charged in freezing temps ( lithium chemistries CANNOT be safely chaged when below freezing)

The is a new Sodium chemistry that China is releasing in EVs this year and that will help - Sodium is far easier to come by than Lithium and battery costs are expected to be 1/2 what they are for equivalent performance ( I have yet to see any commercial offering - I want them for my Solar array.. )
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Battery system is no good.

We need energy on demand systems like hydrogen.
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He didn't master EV til he went to China. Soduin ion batteries are next shht. No more Lithuim mining.
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Bullshit. There's a very simple reason sodium ion batteries are not used in cellphones, power tools, basically everything...
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Because the current technology is very new and they are just commercializing it this year? As with any new tech -- we will have to see how it does in real life, but if it pans out it will certainly displace lithium is a number of applications.
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The actor and comedian behind the popular Mr. Bean character has called on drivers to hold off buying an electric vehicle (EV), saying the environmental benefits do not stack up.

Rowan Atkinson, a long-time motor enthusiast with a degree and master’s in electrical engineering, said current EV technology was more harmful to the environment than it was worth.

“Increasingly, I’m feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that’s no bad thing: we’re realising that a wider range of options need to be explored if we’re going to properly address the very serious environmental problems that our use of the motor car has created,” Atkinson wrote in The Guardian newspaper.


He pointed to figures released by automotive giant Volvo revealing that greenhouse gas emissions during the EV production process were 70 percent higher than building a petrol car.


“How so?” Atkinson said.

“The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all-electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they are estimated to last only upwards of 10 years.


He also pointed to current efforts to develop newer technologies, like solid-state batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and synthetic fuels, but noted more time was needed before they became mainstream.

Atkinson said a bigger problem beyond technology was the current three-year leasing model for car ownership, where owners move onto a new car at the end of the timeframe.

“This seems an outrageously profligate use of the world’s natural resources when you consider what great condition a three-year-old car is in,” Atkinson said, saying owners could just learn to use their cars for longer instead, effectively lowering demand for new vehicles.



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Toyota engineers are quite capable and they decided to build a hydrogen cell car. I'm sure they understand math and crunched some numbers before making this decision.

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He's spot on. It's a looser
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Battery system is no good.

We need energy on demand systems like hydrogen.
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Imagine if you could dump your grass clippings into a vat and then distill alcohol from it? ..
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Battery system is no good.

We need energy on demand systems like hydrogen.
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This patent to be bought out and never used in 3, 2, 1 ....

Did you know a company developed a yeast that could make alcohol from chlorophyll back around 2010 or so. COmpany got bought out and now -- the tech has disappeared

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The actor and comedian behind the popular Mr. Bean character has called on drivers to hold off buying an electric vehicle (EV), saying the environmental benefits do not stack up.

Rowan Atkinson, a long-time motor enthusiast with a degree and master’s in electrical engineering, said current EV technology was more harmful to the environment than it was worth.

“Increasingly, I’m feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that’s no bad thing: we’re realising that a wider range of options need to be explored if we’re going to properly address the very serious environmental problems that our use of the motor car has created,” Atkinson wrote in The Guardian newspaper.


He pointed to figures released by automotive giant Volvo revealing that greenhouse gas emissions during the EV production process were 70 percent higher than building a petrol car.


“How so?” Atkinson said.

“The problem lies with the lithium-ion batteries fitted currently to nearly all-electric vehicles: they’re absurdly heavy, huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they are estimated to last only upwards of 10 years.


He also pointed to current efforts to develop newer technologies, like solid-state batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and synthetic fuels, but noted more time was needed before they became mainstream.

Atkinson said a bigger problem beyond technology was the current three-year leasing model for car ownership, where owners move onto a new car at the end of the timeframe.

“This seems an outrageously profligate use of the world’s natural resources when you consider what great condition a three-year-old car is in,” Atkinson said, saying owners could just learn to use their cars for longer instead, effectively lowering demand for new vehicles.



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Amazing that it takes a celeb to point out that the emperor Elon has no clothes.
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Yeah but the push for EV's is actually about taking away our access to personal transportation. They know EV's are shite and not feasible but when they stop the production of gas & diesel cars along with the production of fossil fuels, it's over. They win. And no one is going to step up to stop them. We'll all just follow along bitching the whole way like a bunch of fat, weak, cunts.





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