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if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...

 
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if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
The kid is 8, he lies all the time, and he often bullies our child, calls him names and is sometimes physical with him...
Recently he punched him in the chest so hard that our son lost breath for several seconds. He was very scared.
Parents found out about it, apologized to us, but it didn't seem that the kid got in any severe trouble over that...he was playing shortly after at another kid's house...

Today I witnessed that boy throw a toy twice at my son when he wasn't looking.

I saw the whole thing from out of the window...

It looked almost devious, as I saw the kid get an hard tip badminton birdie from behind the bushes at my son who was playing with a group of kids in the yard. The birdie missed, and nobody noticed it....Not a big deal, I thought...the distance was long, 'birdie' didn't seem very dangerous, not like a heavy rock or something like that...

Then I saw that kid grab another one and hide it behind his back and slowly creep up to the group of kids and throw the birdie as hard as he could at my son face (from 3-4 feet distance). My son wasn't looking. It hit his arm and hurt him. If he hit his eye, he could have damaged it easily..


At that time I already came outside to deal with it...but the kid ran off....

Again, his mother was informed, she thanked me for letting her know, but I still feel disturbed.

I just feel that he is seeking ways to hurt our child when nobody is looking...It's creepy.


our son plays with that kid's small brother, everyone lives in close proximity...
Any advice?
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05/16/2008 01:40 AM
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Have you tried kicking the little boy in the ribs when no one is watching?

Sometimes kicking a child in the slats is the ounce of prevention that's worth a pound of cure...

Don't tell me you haven't rage fantasised about it.
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05/16/2008 01:42 AM
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Have you tried kicking the little boy in the ribs when no one is watching?

Sometimes kicking a child in the slats is the ounce of prevention that's worth a pound of cure...

Don't tell me you haven't rage fantasised about it.
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need a more realistic solution
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05/16/2008 01:43 AM
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The countryside is nice
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dad fight. loser has to move. bsflag
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dad fight. loser has to move. bsflag
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why bs?
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disguise yourself as a clown and taze him
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go beat up the other kids mom? Sorry that may not be so realistic either, but sounded good though.
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go beat up the other kids mom? Sorry that may not be so realistic either, but sounded good though.
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ok, anybody with kids out here??
sounds like night shift is full of young people....
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05/16/2008 01:46 AM
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Re: if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
Find new playmates. You might have to make arrangements, playtimes with mothers outside of your close neighbors.

I wouldn't risk my child's safety, just to have playmates.

I read an article that 20% of humanity is psychopathic.

Scary.

I feel sorry for the little brother of the bully, tho.
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dad fight. loser has to move. bsflag



why bs?
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no reason. sry hiding
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05/16/2008 01:47 AM
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Re: if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
Your son's got to make a stand, not you, or your son will be 'bully victum' all his life.

Talk to your kid and roleplay different senarios with him. Build his confidence on what to say or do when confronted with this.

You might even want to enroll him in Karate, Tai Kwan Do, etc... and make him feel like he can defend himself if necessary. It will build his confidence as well. I know it did wonders for me.

If things get way out of hand, then yes you should step in. But its more important that you teach him the skills to handle bullies himself. It's not going to look good for a boy to be saved by his mama all the time and may even cause further ridicule for him.
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I've had to talk to my Son's "associates" 1 on 1 a few times. 1 guy seemed like a gang banger wanna be, borrowed stuff, didn't give it back ect....

I talked to him in my back yard. After that, we didn't have any problems. If you have a husband, it's best he talks to the kid.

You can invite him in for cookies and milk, have him sit at the table, and just talk to him with your son present. This can give you an idea of what type of person he is, if he is going to be able to be friends with your son, or if he's a problem child that you need to keep your son away from.


Sounds like he may be jealous of his brother having friends to play with, so he then try's to destroy all his brothers friends.

My Son was quite gullable growing up, trusting everyone, being taken advantage of.... Finally when he got to High School he had to plant someone up against the lockers, and after that, no one messed with him any more.

As a last resort, you may want to inform the parents that there could be hospital bills involved in their future if their Son doesn't stop his mischief.
I imagine they go to the same school, you can talk to the teachers and principal

they know who the problem kids are. My wife was pretty food at that. They would tell her what kids to watch out for, We had 1 kid attack my son in elementry school. They got the police involved, and he wasn't suppose to be within 10 feet of my son -
Maybe it's time for your Son to take Karate?
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forget karate... this little guy is a dancer. 5a
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Throw your dog shit in their yard!
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Re: if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
I've had to talk to my Son's "associates" 1 on 1 a few times. 1 guy seemed like a gang banger wanna be, borrowed stuff, didn't give it back ect....

I talked to him in my back yard. After that, we didn't have any problems. If you have a husband, it's best he talks to the kid.

You can invite him in for cookies and milk, have him sit at the table, and just talk to him with your son present. This can give you an idea of what type of person he is, if he is going to be able to be friends with your son, or if he's a problem child that you need to keep your son away from.


Sounds like he may be jealous of his brother having friends to play with, so he then try's to destroy all his brothers friends.

My Son was quite gullable growing up, trusting everyone, being taken advantage of.... Finally when he got to High School he had to plant someone up against the lockers, and after that, no one messed with him any more.

As a last resort, you may want to inform the parents that there could be hospital bills involved in their future if their Son doesn't stop his mischief.
I imagine they go to the same school, you can talk to the teachers and principal

they know who the problem kids are. My wife was pretty food at that. They would tell her what kids to watch out for, We had 1 kid attack my son in elementry school. They got the police involved, and he wasn't suppose to be within 10 feet of my son -
Maybe it's time for your Son to take Karate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 346985



Yes, Karate seems like a good step. we were actually thinking about it...
As far as inviting kid inside. My son played with that boy since they were 5 on and off at our house... IT was always hard, they never got alone for more than 10-15 minutes ...especially when other kids were around. That kid always tricked him, and he was manipulative. And he lies all the time.

Our son is sensitive, gullable kid too. He gets picked on often by older kids because he is different. They don't go to the same school.

He may have jealousy issues about his brother, but his brother is much younger, and that kid has few of his own friends to play...However, his brother can't stand him because of the frequent abusive behavior.
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forget karate... this little guy is a dancer. 5a
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Fuck off troll
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Throw your dog shit in their yard!
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enticing offer
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Re: if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
YOU are the problem. Your cowardace is the problem. I know todays society is to blame for this, but are you simply too afraid to stand up for and protect your defenceless child? What would a mother bear do if you tried to pick on her young? Rip you to peices, that's what. That you would tolerate this sort of behaviour towards your child, and allow somone else to hurt them repeatedly is unacceptable. Where the hell is the father whilst this is going on? If somone bullied my child, i'd get VERY angry, VERY quickly, and physically sort that little bastard out REAL QUICK. If the bullies father came round complaining i'd soon sort him out as well.
No offence, but you need to harden up and stand up for your children, especially when they are too young to stand up for themselves. They RELY ON YOU to protect them, and it is your duty to do so by any means nessicary.
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I encountered a lot of bullies in one neighborhood as a child.

Buy the kid a boxing bag, have him beat on it. Give him a year to two years and he will be throwing bombs.
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YOU are the problem. Your cowardace is the problem. I know todays society is to blame for this, but are you simply too afraid to stand up for and protect your defenceless child? What would a mother bear do if you tried to pick on her young? Rip you to peices, that's what. That you would tolerate this sort of behaviour towards your child, and allow somone else to hurt them repeatedly is unacceptable. Where the hell is the father whilst this is going on? If somone bullied my child, i'd get VERY angry, VERY quickly, and physically sort that little bastard out REAL QUICK. If the bullies father came round complaining i'd soon sort him out as well.
No offence, but you need to harden up and stand up for your children, especially when they are too young to stand up for themselves. They RELY ON YOU to protect them, and it is your duty to do so by any means nessicary.
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grown up hitting a small kid is not a realistic solution to that.
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grown up hitting a small kid is not a realistic solution to that.
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Are you sure? You can still take my "kick to the ribs" suggestion!
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Re: if neighbour's KID Bullies our child, Advice Needed please...
When I was a kid, I came home crying one day, because I'd been beat up by a bully. My dad sent me outside and told me not to come back home until I'd fought the bully and won.

So that's what I did, and the bully never bothered me again.

You should teach your kid how to fight, but also drill it into his head that he should never throw the first punch. That's what my dad did. He told me to always throw the last punch but never the first one.
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Your son is going to have to learn soon to stand up for himself. He doesn't have to always fight it out, but he needs to learn/know and understand that he doesn't have to put up with the crap. Your husband really needs to be involved in this You need to step back and let the man of the house (no offence)do what he was taught by his father in this kind of situation. You keep running to your sons rescue all the time, he is going to be labeled a mommas boy (that may scar him worse that getting his @ss whooped by the bully. He has to learn soon, because when he gets up in the school years it doesn't get any better with the bullies.
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grown up hitting a small kid is not a realistic solution to that.
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I don't mean hit him with a baseball bat!, i mean grab him by the scruff of the neck, give him a good shake and (yelling very loudly) tell that little bastard just how far your going to stick your foot up his backside if he EVER touches your child again. Make sure he gets the message. Then let him go home so he can put on dry pants.
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When I was a kid, I came home crying one day, because I'd been beat up by a bully. My dad sent me outside and told me not to come back home until I'd fought the bully and won.

So that's what I did, and the bully never bothered me again.

You should teach your kid how to fight, but also drill it into his head that he should never throw the first punch. That's what my dad did. He told me to always throw the last punch but never the first one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432705

My father kind of said the samething, but I didn't really have to win. He told me if I was getting my @ss whooped by someone, I better be fighting back. Or I would get another @ss beating when I got home.
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I encountered a lot of bullies in one neighborhood as a child.

Buy the kid a boxing bag, have him beat on it. Give him a year to two years and he will be throwing bombs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 341724


8 years old......... Yes, this is quite a turning point in a young lads life.
Karate, kick boxing, some sort of self defense for your child is necessary at this point in his life. Hopefully, he will want this....Usually they do.

There will always be people who try and take advantage of him, pick on him ect... He needs to get involved with a healthy group of kids. Little league, soccer, something with other children his age....

One thing that I was very happy about is that My Son got involved in the youth group at a church with one of his friends in Middle school. He still goes and he's turning 18 this month. they go to christian concerts, I've played with him on the softball team, it's really been a blessing. I was made to go to church ( my grandfather was a pastor) but I didn't force it on my kids. He found it on his own, or maybe God's just looking out for him.

Will your husband help? Or is he sitting on the couch with a beer in his hand?
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Just tell the kid he can't come over to play if he can't behave. Say it and mean it.
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I was a shy, quiet kid. It wasn't in my nature to fight with anyone. My younger cousin would pick on me and I wouldn't do anything about it. Then one day she was throwing rocks at me. I went in the house and told my dad and asked him what I should do about it. He told me to pick up the nearest thing and hit her with it. I went back outside and she started throwing rocks at me again. My dad's golf club just happened to be lying in the yard nearby, so I picked it up and gave her a good whack across the head. That might not have been the best advice my dad could have given me, but my cousin never messed with me again.
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I was a shy, quiet kid. It wasn't in my nature to fight with anyone. My younger cousin would pick on me and I wouldn't do anything about it. Then one day she was throwing rocks at me. I went in the house and told my dad and asked him what I should do about it. He told me to pick up the nearest thing and hit her with it. I went back outside and she started throwing rocks at me again. My dad's golf club just happened to be lying in the yard nearby, so I picked it up and gave her a good whack across the head. That might not have been the best advice my dad could have given me, but my cousin never messed with me again.
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If it wasn't for the fact that were both in your 20's, that and you were 6'8 and she was 5'3...
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go beat up the other kids mom? Sorry that may not be so realistic either, but sounded good though.



ok, anybody with kids out here??
sounds like night shift is full of young people....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433491


I have two kids, 4 and 5.

You have to go to the mother *and* the father and just hope they're reasonable. Be apologetic for causing a fuss "but it's just that things like hitting the badminton tip right at my son's face would be a very serious injury if it hit his eye, and he'd have to live with that for life."

EDIT: "If you could just explain that to <little-shit> that it's not playing, it's serious, I would be most appreciative."

Obviously they won't be able to get that through the snot's little head but it's a subtle hint that you're reminding them that this is serious.

If they just brush you off then next time you have to threaten them with something legal. I know how hard that is to do in a community but FFS, this little shit is dangerous.
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