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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86259684 United States09/02/2023 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, only the IRS and other fed tards would select the UMP in .40! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86083746 1. The UMP is a HORRIBLE design, the direct blow back action has hideous recoil impulse and is very difficult to control. 2. Horrible accuracy even at close range. 3. The .40 S&W makes everything wrong with the UMP even worse. 4. Most IRS agents are not shooters or get proper training on any firearm so add shit training to the mix. All those facts together make this program a fail before it even starts. COME FIND OUT YA TYRANTS! Wont matter in the hallway at your house. hmmm, that goes back to the false confidence and real tactics comment but you missed it. . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86260607 United States09/02/2023 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85403021 Excerpts, full story at link Leo Hohmann: Why is the IRS Buying .40-Caliber Submachine Guns? When the corporate media asked the IRS why it needed automatic weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition and heavily armed staffers trained in the “use of deadly force,” they said it was for “administrative reasons.” But we now know that the globalists are not just arming the IRS, along with just about every other federal agency. They are militarizing these agencies to the hilt with military-grade weapons not available to American citizens. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has also purchased hundreds of .40-caliber submachine guns, presumably for making raids on independent food producers. They have a special hatred for the Amish (See Food Supply Attack: U.S. Government Raided and Shut Down Golden Valley Farms, an Independent Meat Producer) The USDA raided the Fisher family’s farm in Farmville, Virginia, and seized their livestock and meat-processing facility as the state condemned and seized their property. They are Amish. .. Reprehensible & disgusting!! Fresh, clean meat & dairy is too healthy & live giving as provided by Father in Heaven. DNA altered trans-humans only need crickets & treated sewage water… Anything good & created by God is slated for destruction. His wrath is coming for these evildoers! . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86083746 United States09/02/2023 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85403021 Excerpts, full story at link Leo Hohmann: Why is the IRS Buying .40-Caliber Submachine Guns? When the corporate media asked the IRS why it needed automatic weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition and heavily armed staffers trained in the “use of deadly force,” they said it was for “administrative reasons.” But we now know that the globalists are not just arming the IRS, along with just about every other federal agency. They are militarizing these agencies to the hilt with military-grade weapons not available to American citizens. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has also purchased hundreds of .40-caliber submachine guns, presumably for making raids on independent food producers. They have a special hatred for the Amish (See Food Supply Attack: U.S. Government Raided and Shut Down Golden Valley Farms, an Independent Meat Producer) The USDA raided the Fisher family’s farm in Farmville, Virginia, and seized their livestock and meat-processing facility as the state condemned and seized their property. They are Amish. With the amount and types of guns owned by citizens these days, this makes perfect sense. They have to protect themselves.  [link to www.msn.com (secure)] they are so pathetic they need protection from their own agents. |
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 User ID: 86216641 United States09/02/2023 01:50 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85403021 Excerpts, full story at link Leo Hohmann: Why is the IRS Buying .40-Caliber Submachine Guns? When the corporate media asked the IRS why it needed automatic weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition and heavily armed staffers trained in the “use of deadly force,” they said it was for “administrative reasons.” But we now know that the globalists are not just arming the IRS, along with just about every other federal agency. They are militarizing these agencies to the hilt with military-grade weapons not available to American citizens. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has also purchased hundreds of .40-caliber submachine guns, presumably for making raids on independent food producers. They have a special hatred for the Amish (See Food Supply Attack: U.S. Government Raided and Shut Down Golden Valley Farms, an Independent Meat Producer) The USDA raided the Fisher family’s farm in Farmville, Virginia, and seized their livestock and meat-processing facility as the state condemned and seized their property. They are Amish. With the amount and types of guns owned by citizens these days, this makes perfect sense. They have to protect themselves. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] they are so pathetic they need protection from their own agents. https://imgur.com/a/N9nFHaBLast Edited by G3 on 09/02/2023 01:51 PM |
| roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States09/02/2023 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No 40 s&w which federal agencies still tend to use for some unknown reason having to do with them being retarded. There is alot of ammo for it. During lean times Ive never aeen it out of stock when therr is no available 9mm or 45....thats the main reason....it is slightly superior then those two rounds as well.../duck....sorry but its true. 40 is definitely not superior to 9x19 and 9x19 isn't even close to a great cartridge my dude. Do I have 9 pistols? Sure! Are they anything other than second or even third line guns I grab in an emergency because my REAL pistols aren't available? NOPE! I daily carry a 30 super carry shield plus which gives me a Glock 19 I can comfortably fit in a front pocket with 13+1 carry mag in it plus tlr6 and holosun dot on top with two 16 round full size mags clipped in another pocket. I have Glock 19 ammo capacity with Glock 34 level terminal ballistics, ability to shoot to extended range, and full size combat pistol accessory load all while slipping into a pocket. If it's time to run a true full size I grab my 5.7x28 psa rock with 23+1 in the gun and two spare mags with a +7 round extended baseplate giving me 84 rounds to start and finish the job even if that job is wrapped in level 3a soft armor and 30 yards away. Like I said at the beginning 40 s&w doesn't even outshine 9x19 and compared to super carry or 5.7x28 it's not even in the running. I'm actually kinda glad they're still buying 40 smg's since it at least gives those of us who know a substantial qualitative edge. All of this said though, there's absolutely zero reason for the IRS to have submachine guns at all much less as many as it has accumulated. (the 80 ump's people are talking about is nothing compared to the couple thousand full auto m4 derivatives and other machine guns they've accumulated over the years) A thing everyone here needs to keep in mind is that there's zero justification for IRS to have this stuff at all even if the illegal NFA wasn't a thing that kept normal Americans from exercising their 2a rights. We can't take our eye off the ball here guys roguetechie |
| roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States09/02/2023 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85403021 Excerpts, full story at link Leo Hohmann: Why is the IRS Buying .40-Caliber Submachine Guns? When the corporate media asked the IRS why it needed automatic weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition and heavily armed staffers trained in the “use of deadly force,” they said it was for “administrative reasons.” But we now know that the globalists are not just arming the IRS, along with just about every other federal agency. They are militarizing these agencies to the hilt with military-grade weapons not available to American citizens. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has also purchased hundreds of .40-caliber submachine guns, presumably for making raids on independent food producers. They have a special hatred for the Amish (See Food Supply Attack: U.S. Government Raided and Shut Down Golden Valley Farms, an Independent Meat Producer) The USDA raided the Fisher family’s farm in Farmville, Virginia, and seized their livestock and meat-processing facility as the state condemned and seized their property. They are Amish. With the amount and types of guns owned by citizens these days, this makes perfect sense. They have to protect themselves. Add to this the fact that the Biden admin is suing SpaceX for not hiring illegals, the pattern is emerging that they're looking to hire and arm illegals in these fed agencies with no loyalty whatsoever to the Constitution, to go after American citizens. Nobody is above the law. Musk likes to think and act like he is. The trumptards loved the fed agencies when trump was president but hate them now? LAW AND ORDER! LMAO You idiot. SpaceX is involved in classified programs and BY LAW can't hire the people they're now being sued FOR NOT HIRING! I know you're a Democrat and keeping up is hard because you're retarded but please at least try to keep up. When the government itself tells a company it can't hire these people or it will lose contracts and the CEO will GO TO JAIL FOR COMPROMISING NATIONAL SECURITY, then turning around and investigating/suing them over hiring practices THEY MANDATED isn't nobody being above the law. It's "the law" being used for Mafia tactics to force behavioral changes on somebody "who is stepping out of line". That's not law and order, it's organized crime and tyrannical overreach. Nobody here is going to let you pretend you're actually the good guys. roguetechie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84355330 United States09/02/2023 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DUBYA BUSH'S PATRIOT ACT SHREDDED THE CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHICH USHERED IN (AMONGST OTHER THINGS...A STANDING ARMY. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84355330 THE STANDING ARMY IS COMPRISED OF THE POLICE, DHS, TSA, IRS, ETC. THE CUCKED OUT CITIZENRY OF THE USSA FAILED TO HEED THIS WARNING: Alexander Hamilton warns of the danger to civil society and liberty from a standing army since “the military state becomes elevated above the civil” (1787)  GOODBYE USSA/AMERIKA...WE HARDLY KNEW YE. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73057099 United States09/02/2023 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No 40 s&w which federal agencies still tend to use for some unknown reason having to do with them being retarded. There is alot of ammo for it. During lean times Ive never aeen it out of stock when therr is no available 9mm or 45....thats the main reason....it is slightly superior then those two rounds as well.../duck....sorry but its true. 40 is definitely not superior to 9x19 and 9x19 isn't even close to a great cartridge my dude. Do I have 9 pistols? Sure! Are they anything other than second or even third line guns I grab in an emergency because my REAL pistols aren't available? NOPE! I daily carry a 30 super carry shield plus which gives me a Glock 19 I can comfortably fit in a front pocket with 13+1 carry mag in it plus tlr6 and holosun dot on top with two 16 round full size mags clipped in another pocket. I have Glock 19 ammo capacity with Glock 34 level terminal ballistics, ability to shoot to extended range, and full size combat pistol accessory load all while slipping into a pocket. If it's time to run a true full size I grab my 5.7x28 psa rock with 23+1 in the gun and two spare mags with a +7 round extended baseplate giving me 84 rounds to start and finish the job even if that job is wrapped in level 3a soft armor and 30 yards away. Like I said at the beginning 40 s&w doesn't even outshine 9x19 and compared to super carry or 5.7x28 it's not even in the running. I'm actually kinda glad they're still buying 40 smg's since it at least gives those of us who know a substantial qualitative edge. All of this said though, there's absolutely zero reason for the IRS to have submachine guns at all much less as many as it has accumulated. (the 80 ump's people are talking about is nothing compared to the couple thousand full auto m4 derivatives and other machine guns they've accumulated over the years) A thing everyone here needs to keep in mind is that there's zero justification for IRS to have this stuff at all even if the illegal NFA wasn't a thing that kept normal Americans from exercising their 2a rights. We can't take our eye off the ball here guys Boutique calibers dont count. I carry a G26 with a 12 rd and 2 33s in the car so I got 79 rounds on tap to get to a rifle. Cant argue with physics.. .40 pushes a 9mm sized bullet 200 fps faster. Or a 40 gr heavier bullet at the same speed. Sure there are boutque calibers tat are better...45 super for example. But im just talking about the big three. My full sizes are all 10mm. My dailies are all 9mm. I wouldnt fel outgunned by anyone with the 9s.... but .40 is heavier and faster technically speaking. I just buy winchester defender pdx for the 9s. I load my own 10mm 155gr@1550 fps verified in a g20....faster in g40 or 1911. Also have 454 casull, 480 Ruger and 30pBLK pistols. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85163185 United States09/02/2023 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, only the IRS and other fed tards would select the UMP in .40! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86083746 1. The UMP is a HORRIBLE design, the direct blow back action has hideous recoil impulse and is very difficult to control. 2. Horrible accuracy even at close range. 3. The .40 S&W makes everything wrong with the UMP even worse. 4. Most IRS agents are not shooters or get proper training on any firearm so add shit training to the mix. All those facts together make this program a fail before it even starts. COME FIND OUT YA TYRANTS! Wont matter in the hallway at your house. hmmm, that goes back to the false confidence and real tactics comment but you missed it. . its kind of ironic that you think irs agents will have "false confidence" and not now how to operate a firearm. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72270270 United States09/02/2023 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a defensive move. They're coming to evict people from their homes and/or confiscate cars, jewelry, whatever they can get their hands on. They didn't during the Great Depression. Blackrock already announced it's their goal to own every single family home in the US. Pay off your debts ASAP. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States09/02/2023 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "40 cal sub machine guns" LOL ! What an idiot loser the OP is..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85901470 ?? Pistol caliber "machine guns" are classified as "sub machine guns" I.E.: HK MP-5(9mm), the UZi (9mm), the WWII M3 "grease gun"(45acp)..theWWII German MP40 (schmiesser) (9mm) I Don't know what you are on about?? |
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Senior Forum Moderator 09/02/2023 02:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "40 cal sub machine guns" LOL ! What an idiot loser the OP is..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85901470 No doubt lol “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
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Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 86229539 United States09/02/2023 03:12 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85403021 Excerpts, full story at link Leo Hohmann: Why is the IRS Buying .40-Caliber Submachine Guns? When the corporate media asked the IRS why it needed automatic weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition and heavily armed staffers trained in the “use of deadly force,” they said it was for “administrative reasons.” But we now know that the globalists are not just arming the IRS, along with just about every other federal agency. They are militarizing these agencies to the hilt with military-grade weapons not available to American citizens. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has also purchased hundreds of .40-caliber submachine guns, presumably for making raids on independent food producers. They have a special hatred for the Amish (See Food Supply Attack: U.S. Government Raided and Shut Down Golden Valley Farms, an Independent Meat Producer) The USDA raided the Fisher family’s farm in Farmville, Virginia, and seized their livestock and meat-processing facility as the state condemned and seized their property. They are Amish. There was one dude that posted here, that said that the reason for the 87,000 agents is to monitor areas after the CBDC is brought in, and there will be those that don't go along with the system.... Sort of a break off of society. This makes a lot of sense, as we seem to be inching towards this CBDC, as Joe collapses our currency. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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| roguetechie81
User ID: 79270407 United States09/02/2023 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need one for "Administrative reasons" also! See how that works? Now give! Quoting: the deplorable ar-15 nut they think "full auto" in 40 cal is a "superior weapon" Great for CQB. I can think of like a whole shit ton of guns that are much better for cqb than a 40 cal blowback smg. I'm glad they have those not something actually good. My full wrap 3a on my backup rig will stop those all day. roguetechie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84355330 United States09/02/2023 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need one for "Administrative reasons" also! See how that works? Now give! Quoting: the deplorable ar-15 nut they think "full auto" in 40 cal is a "superior weapon" Great for CQB. I can think of like a whole shit ton of guns that are much better for cqb than a 40 cal blowback smg. I'm glad they have those not something actually good. My full wrap 3a on my backup rig will stop those all day. techie, I always enjoy your threads and posts!  Many posters in this thread are losing sight of the fact that the IRS is the Collection Agency for the Elite. The Elite also Own the military, the police, etc. Therefore the IRS has the FULL backing of the Military to confiscate funds from the  at will. |
| roguetechie81
User ID: 79270407 United States09/02/2023 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: roguetechie81 No 40 s&w which federal agencies still tend to use for some unknown reason having to do with them being retarded. There is alot of ammo for it. During lean times Ive never aeen it out of stock when therr is no available 9mm or 45....thats the main reason....it is slightly superior then those two rounds as well.../duck....sorry but its true. 40 is definitely not superior to 9x19 and 9x19 isn't even close to a great cartridge my dude. Do I have 9 pistols? Sure! Are they anything other than second or even third line guns I grab in an emergency because my REAL pistols aren't available? NOPE! I daily carry a 30 super carry shield plus which gives me a Glock 19 I can comfortably fit in a front pocket with 13+1 carry mag in it plus tlr6 and holosun dot on top with two 16 round full size mags clipped in another pocket. I have Glock 19 ammo capacity with Glock 34 level terminal ballistics, ability to shoot to extended range, and full size combat pistol accessory load all while slipping into a pocket. If it's time to run a true full size I grab my 5.7x28 psa rock with 23+1 in the gun and two spare mags with a +7 round extended baseplate giving me 84 rounds to start and finish the job even if that job is wrapped in level 3a soft armor and 30 yards away. Like I said at the beginning 40 s&w doesn't even outshine 9x19 and compared to super carry or 5.7x28 it's not even in the running. I'm actually kinda glad they're still buying 40 smg's since it at least gives those of us who know a substantial qualitative edge. All of this said though, there's absolutely zero reason for the IRS to have submachine guns at all much less as many as it has accumulated. (the 80 ump's people are talking about is nothing compared to the couple thousand full auto m4 derivatives and other machine guns they've accumulated over the years) A thing everyone here needs to keep in mind is that there's zero justification for IRS to have this stuff at all even if the illegal NFA wasn't a thing that kept normal Americans from exercising their 2a rights. We can't take our eye off the ball here guys Boutique calibers dont count. I carry a G26 with a 12 rd and 2 33s in the car so I got 79 rounds on tap to get to a rifle. Cant argue with physics.. .40 pushes a 9mm sized bullet 200 fps faster. Or a 40 gr heavier bullet at the same speed. Sure there are boutque calibers tat are better...45 super for example. But im just talking about the big three. My full sizes are all 10mm. My dailies are all 9mm. I wouldnt fel outgunned by anyone with the 9s.... but .40 is heavier and faster technically speaking. I just buy winchester defender pdx for the 9s. I load my own 10mm 155gr@1550 fps verified in a g20....faster in g40 or 1911. Also have 454 casull, 480 Ruger and 30pBLK pistols. Dude go to ammoseek and look at their top 10 pistol calibers. 5.7 isn't boutique anymore and hasn't been for a long time. It's one of their top 5's. Also the speed difference on 40 s&w is let down by it's projectiles being ballistically dumpy as hell. Not all muzzle velocity is created equally. Now I'll agree with you that to some extent as long as you're using good defensive loads any of the above can get the job done especially against unarmored targets but that wasn't really what I was getting at since body armor is dirt cheap now. Thankfully the sort of arcane ballistic knowledge I'm on about is pretty rare and specialized and I'm kinda glad that very few people have it since it gives me multiple edges other people aren't even aware exist. You'll notice that I gravitate towards the much smaller diameter side of the pool of common cartridges and there's very good reasons for this. My tiny little 30 super carry packs an outsize punch unmatched outside of certain 10mm loads and 5.7 just blows even that out of the water especially if you know what loads to run in it. My standard load for my 5.7 gets a full 15 inches and expands to .55 inches in standardized FBI spec testing out to distances further than I can really shoot it yet. That's a comforting feeling. roguetechie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84355330 United States09/02/2023 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTN: roguetechie I always enjoy your threads and poats! That said, take a look at this! Thread: Just read an ominous book. Very unnerving. ! Basically exposing the next rug pull, and boy oh boy it’s a doozy. Its where they take everything! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35599705 United States09/02/2023 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess Everton has forgotten the millions of rounds of .40cal HST rounds various agencies of the FG were purchasing and squirreling away about 10 years ago. The VA and Social Security, HUD, IRS, agencies were also bulking up with these loads. They've yet to hit the surplus markets, even after the shift back to 9mm for law enforcement people. These .40 cal rounds in a short barrell SMG would be Super Deadly, with less collateral damage than a short barrel 5.56 weapon. Think it through! The question of why is very plain to see.. |
| roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States09/02/2023 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess Everton has forgotten the millions of rounds of .40cal HST rounds various agencies of the FG were purchasing and squirreling away about 10 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35599705 The VA and Social Security, HUD, IRS, agencies were also bulking up with these loads. They've yet to hit the surplus markets, even after the shift back to 9mm for law enforcement people. These .40 cal rounds in a short barrell SMG would be Super Deadly, with less collateral damage than a short barrel 5.56 weapon. Think it through! The question of why is very plain to see.. 40 s&w hst's are no joke people. They also zip clean through interior and even exterior walls of houses. If you don't have at least 3a soft body armor get some. roguetechie |
