Winter 2008 - home heating oil above $5.00 per gallon? Who will survive?

damn, everyone is coming out tonight!

good to see you polly

Malu!!!!



How ARE you??

Obama says, TURN YO THERMOSTAT DOWN.

Uhhhhh, try not using oil for heat?

Easier said than done.

Where I live we don't get enough sun (PA) to justify solar. Additionally, we spent a ridiculous amount of money installing a new heating system several years ago.

I have no idea what else to do.

Electric heat pump type of furnace is very economical where I live. I have it and I highly recommend it.
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Coal anybody? Plenty of that. 'Merica is the Saudi Arabia of coal resource. Or, why not convert the coal to gasoline like Germany did for their air force in WW Two.

I happen to live in Phoenixville,PA.My wife Karen and I put in a wood stove 2 years ago and have not spent a dime for oil since.You had better start firing yours up again "Pollyanna" and if you need wood ,we just bought a 27 ton log splitter that you are more than welcome to use....or at least put one of the Jims to work!!!HA!!!!!

They know we can't pay. Think about that.

I'll check that link out, A.C.

May be a slightly used oil heater for sale some time soon.

how about space heaters?

maybe wood heat if you can or space heaters or sell your new POS and get a heat pump. Coal is good or learn to make biodiesel and burn that instead. Lots of options here.

wood stoves are great because they radiate heat pretty good.

My dad, when he used to live in the foothills in Colorado, got snowed in 1 winter. The electricity was out and what kept him and the wife nice and toasty, cozy warm was the wood stove. I think he said he cooked burgers off of it.

oh, and burning stuff is fun! :D

maybe our friend in venezuela will send a few more ship loads this winter :)

hey polly, you are missed around here

btw: cantle coal is the best coal to burn, if you have to go that route, $5 is just too much for oil

Believe it or not, A.C., the older home we own has a coal cellar or bin as they used to call them. We had the old coal stove removed when we had the new system installed.

This maybe a stupid question, but why do you guys use oil?

Isn't nat. gas cheaper and more efficient

yeah, here in michigan you can get ten cord of wood for $1000 and an awesome woodstove for the same

and have to keep your windows open to keep from over heating

Howdy, A.C.!!!

You'll be saving $$$ hand over foot this year.

Hope you guys are doing well. I miss seeing you both.

Give us a "holler" sometime!

it is not piped underground everywhere, the above ground tanks are generally propane, which isn't cheap either

Big house.

Although we have used them on occassion.

Makes sense, just something I always wondered! Thanks my friend. It sounds like your ideal of a wood stove would be the way to go

We do have a huge wood stove but fell away from using wood sometime ago. Grew too dayum lazy, I guess. Plus, the smell was getting to me. I no longer enjoyed it.

Hi, Phoenix!



Miss everyone here. Too much is going on in the "real" world.

It's mind boggling to think of all that money going up the chimney, and reality is setting in after that phone call today.

This is an awful awareness of what is to come.

hey polly..


how have you been??

A.C.! I almost missed your post.

You know, that thought occured to me, too.

They DO know that many won't be able to afford home heating oil, just as they know many can't afford the gas prices right now.

Couple that with the foreclosures on homes and the outrageous rise of prices on food stuffs and other commodities and hey, we're on the verge of something nasty.

What's in the wind??

What on earth is in the wind for us?

If you have a big house get a smaller one if you can't afford to heat it. Stop living beyond your means. Common sense should tell you hard times are ahead why not try PLANNING for it?

Oh, yes, they get quite warm, and I've cooked on mine, too. Only as a novelty though. Heck, if it were a serious enough matter to feed the masses I could learn very quickly!

I live in the north-east and i hear where you are coming from. I have city gas but when I had a trailer I had home-heating oil and I remember one night in the freezing whether when I ran out of oil and my daughter was about a year old. I had to put sheets around the kitchen (remember trailers mostly have the kitchen area opening into the living room area) and because I had cooking has for my stove I was able to keep my daughter warm. I know this is dangerous but what else can you do on a bitter cold night.

If HHO goes up like what you say, ppl will be forced to make do and I can predict many house fires as ppl go back to kerosene heaters (been that route as well) and space heaters and using the stove for heat. I don't think the ones with wood stoves will do much better as firewood has been getting more and more expensive as well. And I am thinking of the elderly, sick and children in the winter as well like you are.

Heating assistance is down to nothing these days. Up here for the past few years they will give you 100gal HHO if you qualify and that's IT. While anything at all is welcome, what are you supposed to do when that 100/gals runs out. My tank was 250gal so that wouldn't even be 1/2 tank. I think we better prepare for the cold weather as well as we can can by putting plastic on the windows, using weather striping, and closing off rooms we don't really need :shaking head sadly: