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5.00 gallon gas reality! (price per barrel) divided by 27.50 = price per gallon gasoline.
$4.00 a gallon was based on 105 to 115 per barrel of oil. That is bargain by todays standards. The price at the pump 'follows' the crude oil price and takes about 4 to 6 weeks to show up in the retail sector. We are almost at $5.00 a gallon gasoline when converted into barrel of oil price. What is incredible is that we may see $6.00 a gallon gasoline by the end of summer if this trend continues.

What this means is that 137.50 a barrel of oil = $5.00 per gallon gasoline.

The formula is this:

(price per barrel) divided by 27.50 = price per gallon gasoline.

$165.00 a barrel = $6.00 a gallon gasoline.

20 gallon tank X $6.00 a gallon = $120.00 fill ups.

Average household that has two cars and fills up once a week that is a $960.00 a month. There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.
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$4.00 a gallon was based on 105 to 115 per barrel of oil. That is bargain by todays standards. The price at the pump 'follows' the crude oil price and takes about 4 to 6 weeks to show up in the retail sector. We are almost at $5.00 a gallon gasoline when converted into barrel of oil price. What is incredible is that we may see $6.00 a gallon gasoline by the end of summer if this trend continues.

What this means is that 137.50 a barrel of oil = $5.00 per gallon gasoline.

The formula is this:

(price per barrel) divided by 27.50 = price per gallon gasoline.

$165.00 a barrel = $6.00 a gallon gasoline.

20 gallon tank X $6.00 a gallon = $120.00 fill ups.

Average household that has two cars and fills up once a week that is a $960.00 a month. There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.
 Quoting: New Klee Errrr

man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!
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Schools are already having a hard time with how much money it is taking to fill up the buses.

Maybe they will just stop the busing and everyone can just walk to their local school.

Some good things can come from this. A very simple life is not all that bad.

Maybe more people will work from home or people will think multiple times before driving somewhere when they can walk or ride a bike.

We may see multigenerational families living together again. Live in help with the kids means no paying for childcare. And means families don't need alot of vehicles. Also more homecooked meals and more gardens since someone will be there to tend them.

I know this is a doomer board but there is some light if you want it that is.
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man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!
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If you are single person it is easier to manage this. The problem is that for those with families; especially school age children there is constantly somewhere to go to do something.

Also, I live in a town where the school boundaries were drawn up in order to facilitate 'diversity'. This means your child may not go to the geographically closest school all in the name of 'diversity'.

Can we afford to be 'diverse' when gasoline is this dam expensive? School districts are no longer cutting the fat out of their budgets. They are cutting bone. When you have geographically unfriendly school zones in the name of diversity you have geographically unfriendly bus routes costing Tens of thousands of dollars in exra fuel cost all in the name of having the right racial make up in schools.

Sorry to stray on the subject but this is just one example of many that could allieviate the pain some.
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man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!


If you are single person it is easier to manage this. The problem is that for those with families; especially school age children there is constantly somewhere to go to do something.

Also, I live in a town where the school boundaries were drawn up in order to facilitate 'diversity'. This means your child may not go to the geographically closest school all in the name of 'diversity'.

Can we afford to be 'diverse' when gasoline is this dam expensive? School districts are no longer cutting the fat out of their budgets. They are cutting bone. When you have geographically unfriendly school zones in the name of diversity you have geographically unfriendly bus routes costing Tens of thousands of dollars in exra fuel cost all in the name of having the right racial make up in schools.

Sorry to stray on the subject but this is just one example of many that could allieviate the pain some.
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i am married, but have no kids.
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Say for instance you work at Wal-Mart which in its infinite wisdom pays minimum wage.

That’s $6.50 x 40 hrs = $260
The Feds take $30 of that = $230
You pay $120 for gas to get to work = $110
You need to eat, well if you’re smart you get food stamps so you still have $110
You rent a room in a ghetto house for $85 a week, you have $25
You have to pay car insurance oops you are in the hole BROKE.
Sell the car, ride the bus
Forget having a wife/husband or kids
You are alone in the ghetto
Don’t get sick, you have to wear the same clothes and shoes until they wear out, cut your own hair

Is it any wonder that the poor are depressed?

The other day I saw a person with a cardboard begging sign on every corner and two in the median of a busy street here. Signs of the times. No pun intended.
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i am married, but have no kids.
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You look like a genius compared to me. Married with four children all in school. I don't even want to think about college or I will be sick.
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man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!


If you are single person it is easier to manage this. The problem is that for those with families; especially school age children there is constantly somewhere to go to do something.

Also, I live in a town where the school boundaries were drawn up in order to facilitate 'diversity'. This means your child may not go to the geographically closest school all in the name of 'diversity'.

Can we afford to be 'diverse' when gasoline is this dam expensive? School districts are no longer cutting the fat out of their budgets. They are cutting bone. When you have geographically unfriendly school zones in the name of diversity you have geographically unfriendly bus routes costing Tens of thousands of dollars in exra fuel cost all in the name of having the right racial make up in schools.

Sorry to stray on the subject but this is just one example of many that could allieviate the pain some.
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 Quoting: New Klee Errrr



I really hope this stops busing. Neighborhood schools are much better. Kids get to know each other then. And school events are easy to get to. There will still be diversity.

And I wasn't carted around when I was a kid. If you couldn't ride your bike or walk to get where you needed to go you just didn't go. Carpools will have to do when there is an event. Kids do to much these days anyway. Cutting out the after school events will mean more time home and with family(especially family dinners) and friends who live in the neighborhood. Neighborhood games are always fun.

I can see more quality of life and less hectic schedules. When my kids can't see their friends they call each other on the phone and play computer games together. We also have families over for potluck with their kids. Where there is a will there is a way.
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i am married, but have no kids.


You look like a genius compared to me. Married with four children all in school. I don't even want to think about college or I will be sick.
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What about having the kids pay for their own college? And do they really need a four year degree to get a good job? There are alot of waiters/waitresses with 4 year degrees. Tech schools are great. Online schools are wonderful also. Becoming an apprentice is also something to think about. Then they know if that is the job they want to spend alot of time in school for. Sometimes apprenticing is enough for certain fields. Get creative and don't think a person cannot have a good life without going to college. I believe it is an outdated way to learn anyway.
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fuck. oil is $133.50 / barrell now. Up my way (north east) gas is $3.85/gall. Bet tomorrow it will be $4.00 for sure, it goes up daily. I'm still making $7.85/hr tho. you figure.
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Say for instance you work at Wal-Mart which in its infinite wisdom pays minimum wage.

That’s $6.50 x 40 hrs = $260
The Feds take $30 of that = $230
You pay $120 for gas to get to work = $110
You need to eat, well if you’re smart you get food stamps so you still have $110
You rent a room in a ghetto house for $85 a week, you have $25
You have to pay car insurance oops you are in the hole BROKE.
Sell the car, ride the bus
Forget having a wife/husband or kids
You are alone in the ghetto
Don’t get sick, you have to wear the same clothes and shoes until they wear out, cut your own hair

Is it any wonder that the poor are depressed?

The other day I saw a person with a cardboard begging sign on every corner and two in the median of a busy street here. Signs of the times. No pun intended.
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Roomates and renting out rooms will become fashionable. Bartering will make a comeback as will swap meets. They did it in the Great Depression and Argentina has survived their melt down by doing these things. People will think of new businesses like making cloth diapers when the disposables are unaffordable. Read about that one in a Argentine newspaper. People just brought out their sewing machines and got busy. Voila. Money. Believe me no one wants an undiapered baby around.
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$4.00 a gallon was based on 105 to 115 per barrel of oil. That is bargain by todays standards. The price at the pump 'follows' the crude oil price and takes about 4 to 6 weeks to show up in the retail sector. We are almost at $5.00 a gallon gasoline when converted into barrel of oil price. What is incredible is that we may see $6.00 a gallon gasoline by the end of summer if this trend continues.

What this means is that 137.50 a barrel of oil = $5.00 per gallon gasoline.

The formula is this:

(price per barrel) divided by 27.50 = price per gallon gasoline.

$165.00 a barrel = $6.00 a gallon gasoline.

20 gallon tank X $6.00 a gallon = $120.00 fill ups.

Average household that has two cars and fills up once a week that is a $960.00 a month. There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.

man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!
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LS its not that simple for me as I run my own business and have to pick up and deliver materials and on average I drive 400-600 miles a week . Gas cost can run between $140-$300 a week. The public does not want to pay a fuel surcharge on the Bill as I have tried that .
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what is the significance of 27.50?
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$4.00 a gallon was based on 105 to 115 per barrel of oil. That is bargain by todays standards. The price at the pump 'follows' the crude oil price and takes about 4 to 6 weeks to show up in the retail sector. We are almost at $5.00 a gallon gasoline when converted into barrel of oil price. What is incredible is that we may see $6.00 a gallon gasoline by the end of summer if this trend continues.

What this means is that 137.50 a barrel of oil = $5.00 per gallon gasoline.

The formula is this:

(price per barrel) divided by 27.50 = price per gallon gasoline.

$165.00 a barrel = $6.00 a gallon gasoline.

20 gallon tank X $6.00 a gallon = $120.00 fill ups.

Average household that has two cars and fills up once a week that is a $960.00 a month. There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.

man if you are filling up once a week then you live way to far from your job!

i am 15 miles round trip and i use my bike for everything else.

oh yeah, i also carpool at least twice a week.

time for everyone to lose the suv!

LS its not that simple for me as I run my own business and have to pick up and deliver materials and on average I drive 400-600 miles a week . Gas cost can run between $140-$300 a week. The public does not want to pay a fuel surcharge on the Bill as I have tried that .
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They are going to have to like it or not. I pay delivery for pizza now when it use to be free and of course I still tip good. When you want something bad enough you will pay for it. Get tough and people will pay or get creative enough to make your job worthwhile. This is something you have to do.
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I really hope this stops busing. Neighborhood schools are much better. Kids get to know each other then. And school events are easy to get to. There will still be diversity.

And I wasn't carted around when I was a kid. If you couldn't ride your bike or walk to get where you needed to go you just didn't go. Carpools will have to do when there is an event. Kids do to much these days anyway. Cutting out the after school events will mean more time home and with family(especially family dinners) and friends who live in the neighborhood. Neighborhood games are always fun.

I can see more quality of life and less hectic schedules. When my kids can't see their friends they call each other on the phone and play computer games together. We also have families over for potluck with their kids. Where there is a will there is a way.
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AC This is one of the most intelligent posts I have read here. I have read some good articles about the fact that we meaning adults push too much for organized functions and the children just cannot be children and 'create' their own fun in the nieghborhood.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Things are speeding up !! Revelation 6.6
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures saying " A quart of wheat for a days wages and three quarts of barley for a days wages and do not damage the oil and the wine" (not King James )! Bush to soon announce peace and safety in Israel ! 1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. ! The rising gas prices are like a thermometer rising to the boiling point !! Praise he who forgives !! Amen
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There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.
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So what do you plan on doing about it? You can't change the price of oil, no matter how much you rant and scream. You can't make the oil producers pump more. So what are you going to do?
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I really hope this stops busing. Neighborhood schools are much better. Kids get to know each other then. And school events are easy to get to. There will still be diversity.

And I wasn't carted around when I was a kid. If you couldn't ride your bike or walk to get where you needed to go you just didn't go. Carpools will have to do when there is an event. Kids do to much these days anyway. Cutting out the after school events will mean more time home and with family(especially family dinners) and friends who live in the neighborhood. Neighborhood games are always fun.

I can see more quality of life and less hectic schedules. When my kids can't see their friends they call each other on the phone and play computer games together. We also have families over for potluck with their kids. Where there is a will there is a way.


AC This is one of the most intelligent posts I have read here. I have read some good articles about the fact that we meaning adults push too much for organized functions and the children just cannot be children and 'create' their own fun in the nieghborhood.
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Thanks.:o) I agree, we really need to just let kids be kids and have more time to just be. Time to use their imagination and to sometimes just be bored. In fact, adults need this also. I have started to take fifteen minutes and just focusing on my breathing. It really works to stop the craziness of it all. We as a society need to slow down. I bet we would see alot of sicknesses stop also. The stress of hectic lives are killing us. We all need to look on the positive side of this all. We could become a closer community and really get to know each other instead of zooming by each other. Maybe I need to go watch a Waltons episode.haha
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Its time to tell the enviromental woo woos that we have to begin drilling for domestic oil.

We might lose a bug or two but that is the way it goes.

And build about 50 nuke plants and tell the muslims to sell it to China.
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Schools are already having a hard time with how much money it is taking to fill up the buses.

Maybe they will just stop the busing and everyone can just walk to their local school.

Some good things can come from this. A very simple life is not all that bad.

Maybe more people will work from home or people will think multiple times before driving somewhere when they can walk or ride a bike.

We may see multigenerational families living together again. Live in help with the kids means no paying for childcare. And means families don't need alot of vehicles. Also more homecooked meals and more gardens since someone will be there to tend them.

I know this is a doomer board but there is some light if you want it that is.
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That is a very good summation of what is to come. Many have already started to do that out of necessity, but many more will fight before coming to the realization that it is a good thing in the long run. It can't be about ME anymore, it has to be about US.

I have lived in a multi-generational houses most of my life, for both short and long periods of time. It is a true test of relationship building, clashing and working through it. It's not easy, but do-able. It should be interesting to see how the national stress level goes up when this becomes a necessity and not an option.
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what is the significance of 27.50?
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If you look at price per gallon gasoline and price per barrel of oil it this number (27.50) divided into the price per barrel of oil that yields you the price per gallon of gasoline. Do a google search in the news archives with key word 'oil and gas prices' and read some of the past news. Trust me it works.
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Its time to tell the enviromental woo woos that we have to begin drilling for domestic oil.

We might lose a bug or two but that is the way it goes.

And build about 50 nuke plants and tell the muslims to sell it to China.
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I'd say it's time to kick the dependence on oil, foreign or domestic, to the fucking curb. Do you really believe the oil men when they promise that drilling for more and opening new refineries on protected land will bring down the price of oil and gasoline? Existing refineries are running at 85% capacity now, what's going to improve?
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There is 'NO WAY' the middle class can survive this kind of run up.


So what do you plan on doing about it? You can't change the price of oil, no matter how much you rant and scream. You can't make the oil producers pump more. So what are you going to do?
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That is the thing. Some people just want to lay down and give up. Maybe after people get over the shock of having to change their lives they will start using their brain and become creative again. Maybe they will have to cut the cable so the TV will stop thinking for them. People still have money they are just going to have to use it wisely. When I am out on the road I still see people tail gating one another and racing to each light. People are still crowding restaurants and movie theaters and booking vacations so they must not be hurting yet or are just in denial or using all of their credit up. The strongest or like I said the most creative will survive. No whining is allowed. At least not for very long.
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i am married, but have no kids.
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what we need to do is forget ANWAR or whatever..there isnt much oil in the ground there not to mention it's a pristine natrual wild life area.

DRILL IN THE pacific ocean more. There is a vast ocean out there, and some oil guru's think there is trillions of tons of untapped oil to be had..risky to drill and not cheap..but is doable.
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I really hope this stops busing. Neighborhood schools are much better. Kids get to know each other then. And school events are easy to get to. There will still be diversity.

And I wasn't carted around when I was a kid. If you couldn't ride your bike or walk to get where you needed to go you just didn't go. Carpools will have to do when there is an event. Kids do to much these days anyway. Cutting out the after school events will mean more time home and with family(especially family dinners) and friends who live in the neighborhood. Neighborhood games are always fun.

I can see more quality of life and less hectic schedules. When my kids can't see their friends they call each other on the phone and play computer games together. We also have families over for potluck with their kids. Where there is a will there is a way.
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I understand your point. I am married with one child and she use to be in all kinds of activities but when her grades started to suffer, I took her out. Now that she is doing better in school, I was going to put her back into ice hockey, but the more I look at the outrageous fuel prices, I don't think that will be a consideration. Practices, games and tourneys can be as far as 75-100 miles in radius and that of course expands depending on your child's skill level. My daughter is in just a "house" league which should give you a good idea how bad the radius is for a travel league (sometimes several states away for games).
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Its time to tell the enviromental woo woos that we have to begin drilling for domestic oil.
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Drilling for more oil is not the answer. We need to get off the oil addiction and use other methods.

We had out warning in the 1970's. Everyone was for conservation then. It drove the development of higher mileage cars, solar power, wind powers, solar heating, etc. Then the oil became available again, the prices dropped, and all the past was forgotten.

Now we are reaping the benefits of our collective greed and inaction over the past 30 years. If we had kept to it, we could have a fleet of electric powered cars, solar powered and heated homes, and nuclear power plants rather than coal and natural gas burners.

So we now will have to struggle with the results. Super high prices for oil, soon to be scarcity of gas, homes that can't be heated because of the price or availability or both, people going bankrupt, etc, etc, etc.

We have only ourselves to blame. For most of you, it's probably too late.

I have been gathering stuff for years. I have lots and lots of stored food. I have solar panels that are tested but not installed yet, but can be very quickly. I have a wind generator the produces enough to keep the lights on if necessary. I have the plans (but not tested yet) for solar hot water heating. I can heat my whole house on firewood and solar power. I can live comfortably when the power goes out.

I also have a very nice garden which I have been experimenting in for 10 years. Do you know how much food you need to produce to feed a family for one year? I do because I've tried and was surprised by how much land is needed. Thankfully, I have a 1/2 acre back yard and can grow what I need. I am building a greenhouse to get plants started early in the Spring and to have some greens for the Winter.

Do you have all these things? If not, what will you do? It's really too late to start thinking about it now.
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i am married, but have no kids.


You look like a genius compared to me. Married with four children all in school. I don't even want to think about college or I will be sick.
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i feel for you, truely. i paid my way through college so i know the expense. as for gas prices, i make a nice living but this is getting out of hand. there is something more than normal market forces at work here.
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Schools are already having a hard time with how much money it is taking to fill up the buses.

Maybe they will just stop the busing and everyone can just walk to their local school.

Some good things can come from this. A very simple life is not all that bad.

Maybe more people will work from home or people will think multiple times before driving somewhere when they can walk or ride a bike.

We may see multigenerational families living together again. Live in help with the kids means no paying for childcare. And means families don't need alot of vehicles. Also more homecooked meals and more gardens since someone will be there to tend them.

I know this is a doomer board but there is some light if you want it that is.


That is a very good summation of what is to come. Many have already started to do that out of necessity, but many more will fight before coming to the realization that it is a good thing in the long run. It can't be about ME anymore, it has to be about US.

I have lived in a multi-generational houses most of my life, for both short and long periods of time. It is a true test of relationship building, clashing and working through it. It's not easy, but do-able. It should be interesting to see how the national stress level goes up when this becomes a necessity and not an option.
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I have a pretty big yard and have thought of getting a cheap RV when they do become dirt cheap and parking it and letting family members live in it if they need it or renting it out. That is what those RV's are going to be good for. Permanent homes. No moving it around the country. I can see people asking to pitch tents in people's yards also. The tent industry may be see their business booming soon. Tents cities with showers and porta potties are the new subdivisions. Who knows? It does have to become WE instead of ME.
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Its time to tell the enviromental woo woos that we have to begin drilling for domestic oil.

We might lose a bug or two but that is the way it goes.

And build about 50 nuke plants and tell the muslims to sell it to China.


I'd say it's time to kick the dependence on oil, foreign or domestic, to the fucking curb. Do you really believe the oil men when they promise that drilling for more and opening new refineries on protected land will bring down the price of oil and gasoline? Existing refineries are running at 85% capacity now, what's going to improve?
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I heard something on the news this morning and it finally "clicked". The oil companies are making RECORD profits right now, and there is no reason they want to go into alternative energy. The easy way for them to keep making profit is to keep the "traditional" standards of oil production, that is why they want to drill all over U.S. This explains why Bush is also pushing ANWR and drilling coasts and all of America including public lands right now. It has NOTHING to do with "helping keep the cost of oil low" that is BULLSHIT. It is all about keeping the oil companies rich. I don't cuss here very often but I am getting pretty pissed of about this BULLSHIT runaround. Plus not only that but why are we to build nuke plants when we are SELLING energy sources and our natural resources to other countries?

OUR BEST INTEREST is alternative energy, reducing consumption, mass transportation and changing infrastructure NOW, like we should have done years ago! BUT NO, this BULLSHIT right now being RAMMED down American's sitting on their couches is "the solution is to drill more in our own country".
FUCK THEM OIL COMPANIES!
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You should read this thread:

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