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Maiya
It's kind of fun to do the impossible. User ID: 83702605 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76141535 OP, I am not familiar with the video maker, but he references that he is hitting the road with 32 tents and a bunch of backpacks. Is he doing homeless outreach, or is he buggering out, prepper-style? The latter makes zero sense if he is convinced that the rapture is pre-trib. Patrick does homeless outreach. Those are free. They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a saved Christian but this guy, Pastor Patrick, and his sign with all these meteors and stars and shapes....I don't know. It's too much. And how he connects everything with the Strong's concordance seems to me like he's reading into everything too much. If the rapture happens to coincide with it Ill be very surprised. Quoting: Radius2 If I'm wrong and there is a pretrib, so what. It costs me nothing. If you're wrong, you lose your soul. Repent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81106315 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. Quoting: MindWideOpen That makes no fucking sense, like most of the bible. says the godless jap |
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Achduke7
User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Achduke |
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User ID: 86218165 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:51 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Do you recall what was revealed the day the music died (Removal of the Holy spirit) The man of sin revealed... and the restrainer taken away... Traitors to the Devil we are the Anonymous Christ within, the hope of glory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/17/2023 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 |
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User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 09:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 09/17/2023 09:21 AM Achduke |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86219631 09/17/2023 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. The day of Christ and the day of Lord are two different things. |
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Achduke7
User ID: 86278180 ![]() 09/17/2023 09:41 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. The day of Christ and the day of Lord are two different things. Reading 2 Thessalonians we can see the day of Christ is when we are gathered to him and that does not happen until the falling away occurs and the man of sin is revealed. Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80770532 09/17/2023 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sign happened September 23, 2017. Some of you might remember it. Oumuamua, the interstellar object appeared right next to the sign that night. But it was not discovered until about a month later so we never knew it was there. Omumamua is the red dragon of verses 3 and 4. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86309966 If you read further in the chapter, 1260 days pass. Then there is a battle in the heavens between Archangel Michael and his loyal angels, and the red dragon and the fallen ones. Satan lost that battle. It took place March 6th, 2021. 1277 days (time, times, and a half time) after that battle, Satan is thrown down to earth. Satan and the fallen angels invade earth September 3rd, 2024. Next year. Oumuamua is Satan's ship, and there will be more like it coming, thousands if not tens of thousands more. They will likely be visible in the night sky to the naked eye on or about August 17h of next year. It's likely they will be discovered before that, but mistaken for a string of pearls comet. It's not a comet swarm. It's an invasion fleet. When you hear of it's discovery next summer, get ready. Revelation is about to get started. As far as I'm aware nothing happens on the 22ond of this year. Though it would be very close to the 6th anniversary of the original wonder in the heavens of 2017. So, you don't believe in the rapture? |
Michael.
User ID: 74412794 ![]() 09/17/2023 09:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? If it's real, it can be verified by eye, but Stellarium is just a computer program that can be altered by someone or the AI/AC. In 2019 While using Stellarium I saw a glitch that moved the planet Jupiter's position it may have been a correction point, but Jupiter's position instantly changed by a good distance while traveling against the constellation Ophiuchus. This happened when the Genesis 3:15 sign in the Heavens was going on during Shavuot June 8-9 2019. Just as the AI Bots are infiltrating GLP, the Stellarium program has been infiltrated. But Stellarium being a major tool for researchers and those looking upward for signs it happened a few years ago. Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86310679 ![]() 09/17/2023 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. Quoting: MindWideOpen You should learn to rightly divide scripture instead of picking and choosing. Jesus was talking to the Pharisees. They were demanding a sign from Him right then and there. A miracle. {Shortly after the Pharisees accused Jesus of driving out demons by the power of Satan, they said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here”} The sign in the heavens right now is the Revelation 12 sign which was a sign for the future, a sign for the tribulation, and God willing a sign of our removal from this place. |
Fossy
User ID: 73957956 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:05 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 Absolutely right the day no one knows the day or hour etc. they weren’t even talking about the rapture. They were talking about the end of the world. Different thing no matter pre/post or preter. Thread: A new and unique theory for a September rapture. Jesus is coming for us! Never give up this blessed hope. There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. |
Fossy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13527363 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Ezekiel 13:20 KJV God says He is AGAINST those that teach His children to fly to save their souls... He further states that He will tear those souls out of their hands. Read it: Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly. People that haven't studied His word and are going about not caring whether or not they are feeding His sheep lies or not should be aware that falsely teaching His word carries a very HEAVY PENALTY. He takes it very seriously.... you SHOULD TOO. People are going to pay a price for misleading His children. As it SHOULD BE. I WOULD stop immediately and repent if I were one doing such a thing. His Word is not up for debate. I suggest you find a good teacher and leave the "tradition of men" alone. It doesn't matter what quack pots say. It only matters what His Wors says. Just my 2 cents of unsolicited advice. |
MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. Quoting: MindWideOpen You should learn to rightly divide scripture instead of picking and choosing. Jesus was talking to the Pharisees. They were demanding a sign from Him right then and there. A miracle. {Shortly after the Pharisees accused Jesus of driving out demons by the power of Satan, they said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here”} The sign in the heavens right now is the Revelation 12 sign which was a sign for the future, a sign for the tribulation, and God willing a sign of our removal from this place. In your opinion why did Jesus answer by giving them the sign of himself dying and returning in his kingdom in all power and glory as King of kings and Lord of lords? Last Edited by MindWideOpen on 09/17/2023 10:09 AM Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86311220 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ponder all this, take it to the holy spirit, pray and ask for discernment. Quoting: StellaBlue Test the spirits. If God is giving signs in the heavens, then He will gladly give you a personal sign, if you ask sincerely. God is not the author of confusion, He wants to reassure His children. Don't listen to me or any of these people. Take it to the Lord. He will let you know. If you believe in the Bible you DON'T have a CLUE about testing spirits! The Bible is the Controller's #1 Control manual. Koran #2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? |
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. User ID: 86284987 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith Adonai YHWH; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Persia - Iran, a ally of Russia Ethiopia a ally of Russia In April 2022, Ethiopia voted against expelling Russia from the United Nations Human Rights Council. Libya - Russia also regards Libya as one of its strongest allies in the Arab world. Ezekiel 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. the hooks have been set in his jaw, Russia's economy will become increasingly worse until he invades Israel for a spoil, goods and stuff Thread: the man of sin - vladimir vladimirovich putin (Page 8) | KJV Verse 30927 = 21 | Revelation 13:18 = 31 _ (52) 7 Here is Wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Written Total Value English Ordinal = 1451 Verse 1451 = 11 | Genesis 47:30 = 77 _ (88) 16 = 7 ________ vladimir = 88 But I will lie with my fathers, and thou shalt carry me out of Egypt, and bury me in their burying place. And he said, I will do as thou hast said. Written Value = 1318 Verse 1318 = 13 | Genesis 43:27 = 70 _ (83) 11 = 2 And he asked them of their welfare, and said, Is your father well, the old man of whom ye spake? Is he yet alive? ____ Wisdom = 83 = 11 13 - Thirteen = 99 = 18 Let 37 Hath 37 Count 73 Number 73 Ordinal 73 Perfect 73 Kingdom 73 ____ ____ six hundred threescore and six = 313 vladimir vladimirovich putin = 313 vladimir = 88 vladimirovich = 145 putin - 80 | Ordinal A 1 B 2 C 3 D 4 E 5 F 6 G 7 H 8 I 9 J 10 K 11 L 12 M 13 N 14 O 15 P 16 Q 17 R 18 S 19 T 20 U 21 V 22 W 23 X 24 Y 25 Z 26 Search Verse Number 1-31102 [link to 31102Bible.com (secure)] Also, There's a Ordinal English Calculator on the page, everything needed to verify . . Translate "vladimir vladimirovich putin" into Heb Then Copy and paste it into the Heb Gematria Calculator. Total Value = 863 - The 150th Prime Number Heb Values vladimir = 300 vladimirovich = 408 putin = 155 __ English Ordinal A=1 - Z=26 300 - Three Hundred = 130 408 - Four Hundred Eight = 183 155 - One Hundred Fifty Five = 216 - 6*6*6 130 + 183 = 313 = vladimir vladimirovich putin Here is Wisdom. Let him that hath Understanding 150 count the number ___ Heb Calculator [link to torahcalc.com (secure)] . |
Achduke7
User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:31 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? What happened in the twinkling of an is the resurrection. 1Co 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 09/17/2023 10:35 AM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? |