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MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? That's the way God wrote the bible. He put things in such a way that you will find whatever you're looking for. "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." If a person comes to the bible looking for works salvation then all verses will seem to point to works. If they're looking for "The Antichrist" all verses will seem to point to that. The same with any other biblical doctrine. The day of the Lord and the day of Christ are two completely unrelated things. In my opinion the day of Christ is when the believer goes to be with the Lord based on how the phrase is used in other places in the bible. Phillipians 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ; Phillipians 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. Last Edited by MindWideOpen on 09/17/2023 10:40 AM Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Achduke7
User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. Achduke |
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User ID: 86285025 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a saved Christian but this guy, Pastor Patrick, and his sign with all these meteors and stars and shapes....I don't know. It's too much. And how he connects everything with the Strong's concordance seems to me like he's reading into everything too much. If the rapture happens to coincide with it Ill be very surprised. Quoting: Radius2 Rest assured. There will be no rapture on the 22ond or any time soon. The pretribulation rapture doctrine is the doctrine of demons. It is designed to make you believe that the tribulation isn't happening, that evil bastard running the world is not The Beast of Revelation and that mark they're asking you to get is not the Mark of the Beast. The logic will go something like this: "That guy isn't Satan and that's not the mark of the beast, if it was I would have already been raptured." You'll bow to Satan and take The Mark an damn yourself to hell for eternity, without even knowing you've done it. Because you believed in a false doctrine. Be careful. There's too much at stake to afford to be wrong. If I'm wrong and there is a pretrib, so what. It costs me nothing. If you're wrong, you lose your soul. That's the price of being wrong when it comes to buying a false doctrine. Believe what you want right now, when it doesn't matter what you believe. But you better be ready to change your mind later when it does. ![]() live and let die |
MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 What day is referenced is 2 Th 2:3? Why omit 2 Th 2:2 explaining what day is referenced? It's the day of the Lord which is judgment, not the gathering together which is the Rapture. This distinction is clearly made by denoting 'day'. not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 2 Th. 2:2 There is a Rapture because God doesn't judge the righteous. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Romans 3:22 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; It is the day of Christ when we are gathered to him. Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? What happened in the twinkling of an is the resurrection. 1Co 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Archduke7 you just posted the most important verses for understanding the resurrection. In 1Co 15:42 what is "IT" and what is the corruption "IT" is sown in? Answer those questions and you will have the biblically correct view of the resurrection. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
VampPatriot
User ID: 85194339 ![]() 09/17/2023 10:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know people believe things are so bad already they are ready for rescue but things aren’t bad enough yet to warrant intervention. It’s going to get so much more worse Communism shall never prevail. "FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. WAR IS PEACE. STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra |
232 User ID: 86284987 ![]() 09/17/2023 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: . 86284987 Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith Adonai YHWH; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Persia - Iran, a ally of Russia Ethiopia a ally of Russia In April 2022, Ethiopia voted against expelling Russia from the United Nations Human Rights Council. Libya - Russia also regards Libya as one of its strongest allies in the Arab world. Ezekiel 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. the hooks have been set in his jaw, Russia's economy will become increasingly worse until he invades Israel for a spoil, goods and stuff Thread: the man of sin - vladimir vladimirovich putin (Page 8) | KJV Verse 30927 = 21 | Revelation 13:18 = 31 _ (52) 7 Here is Wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Written Total Value English Ordinal = 1451 Verse 1451 = 11 | Genesis 47:30 = 77 _ (88) 16 = 7 ________ vladimir = 88 But I will lie with my fathers, and thou shalt carry me out of Egypt, and bury me in their burying place. And he said, I will do as thou hast said. Written Value = 1318 Verse 1318 = 13 | Genesis 43:27 = 70 _ (83) 11 = 2 And he asked them of their welfare, and said, Is your father well, the old man of whom ye spake? Is he yet alive? ____ Wisdom = 83 = 11 13 - Thirteen = 99 = 18 Let 37 Hath 37 Count 73 Number 73 Ordinal 73 Perfect 73 Kingdom 73 ____ ____ six hundred threescore and six = 313 vladimir vladimirovich putin = 313 vladimir = 88 vladimirovich = 145 putin - 80 | Ordinal A 1 B 2 C 3 D 4 E 5 F 6 G 7 H 8 I 9 J 10 K 11 L 12 M 13 N 14 O 15 P 16 Q 17 R 18 S 19 T 20 U 21 V 22 W 23 X 24 Y 25 Z 26 Search Verse Number 1-31102 [link to 31102Bible.com (secure)] Also, There's a Ordinal English Calculator on the page, everything needed to verify . . Quoting: Understanding 86284987 Translate "vladimir vladimirovich putin" into Heb Then Copy and paste it into the Heb Gematria Calculator. Total Value = 863 - The 150th Prime Number Heb Values vladimir = 300 vladimirovich = 408 putin = 155 __ English Ordinal A=1 - Z=26 300 - Three Hundred = 130 408 - Four Hundred Eight = 183 155 - One Hundred Fifty Five = 216 - 6*6*6 130 + 183 = 313 = vladimir vladimirovich putin Here is Wisdom. Let him that hath Understanding 150 count the number ___ Heb Calculator [link to torahcalc.com (secure)] . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/17/2023 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 Why would one be shaken in mind or troubled for the Rapture? They wouldn’t and the Rapture happens in the twinkling of an eye so there would no time to be troubled. It doesn’t make sense does it? As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. |
Proud American Supporter
User ID: 66577266 ![]() 09/17/2023 11:58 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. Quoting: StellaBlue Luke 21:11 Isn't this suppose to happen March/April 2024? The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 235) |
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Achduke7
User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. They are not shaken by the harpazo, they are shaken believing they missed the harpazo. The Thessalonians were led to believe that they missed the harpazo. Paul said that is not true. They should not believe the words of lying men. The resurrection is of hope in seeing the Lord and being with Christ. The Thessalonians believed they missed it. I would be shaken also if I thought I missed the gathering with the Lord. Now Paul says do not believe these lies. Here is what to look for before the harpazo happens. 1) the falling away. 2) the man of sin revealed. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 09/17/2023 12:10 PM Achduke |
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MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 As 2 Thessalonians points out, We are gathered to him on the Day of Christ. This does not happen until the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Is our gathering to him the harpazo? As for being shaken by our gathering why do you think they are shaken? Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. Ah a biblical expert who doesn't even believe the bible is true. I'm running this through my head and I just can't see how someone arrives at the truth by studying error. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1000331 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 Matthew 24:29-31 AFTER the Tribulation... ...at the Last Trump 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tri_clans_bes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. . Verse 31 shows the Last Trumpet that Paul mentions and the verse also matches Revelation 11:15 and Revelation 11:18 like I have already shown to you. It also matchs 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. ... 1 Thessalonians 4 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. ... Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS Christ; and he shall reign for ever and EVER. . 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. . Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. . |
Loup Garou
User ID: 85236209 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:25 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 21:25-28 KJV And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71034575 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 Why would be shaken and troubled by our gathering together with Christ in the Rapture? They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. They are not shaken by the harpazo, they are shaken believing they missed the harpazo. The Thessalonians were led to believe that they missed the harpazo. Paul said that is not true. They should not believe the words of lying men. The resurrection is of hope in seeing the Lord and being with Christ. The Thessalonians believed they missed it. I would be shaken also if I thought I missed the gathering with the Lord. Now Paul says do not believe these lies. Here is what to look for before the harpazo happens. 1) the falling away. 2) the man of sin revealed. I honestly don't see how others don't see this, it's SO obvious. Perhaps it's hidden from them. In Luke 18 Jesus plainly tells His disciples what will happen with Him, but it was hidden from them... ~~~Now He took the twelve aside and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all the things that have been written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. “For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be ridiculed, and abused, and spit upon, and after they have flogged Him, they will kill Him; and on the third day He will rise.” The disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said.~~~ |
MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 21:25-28 KJV Quoting: Loup Garou And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Those thing happened when we were REDEEMED. When were we redeemed? When was the 2nd coming of Christ? Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Achduke7
User ID: 86278180 ![]() 09/17/2023 01:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 They are shaken and troubled because the Thessalonians thought the harpazo already happened but Paul shows the precursors to the resurrection and harpazo and then continues to say let no man decieve you. I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. They are not shaken by the harpazo, they are shaken believing they missed the harpazo. The Thessalonians were led to believe that they missed the harpazo. Paul said that is not true. They should not believe the words of lying men. The resurrection is of hope in seeing the Lord and being with Christ. The Thessalonians believed they missed it. I would be shaken also if I thought I missed the gathering with the Lord. Now Paul says do not believe these lies. Here is what to look for before the harpazo happens. 1) the falling away. 2) the man of sin revealed. I honestly don't see how others don't see this, it's SO obvious. Perhaps it's hidden from them. In Luke 18 Jesus plainly tells His disciples what will happen with Him, but it was hidden from them... ~~~Now He took the twelve aside and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all the things that have been written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. “For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be ridiculed, and abused, and spit upon, and after they have flogged Him, they will kill Him; and on the third day He will rise.” The disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said.~~~ Not sure, Is it fear? They are always worried on how bad these time will be but what is there to fear if we have God on our side? I am either killed, sleep in the ground a bit and i am resurrected to the Glory of God and Christ or I survive, i am then resurrected and see the Glory of God and Christ. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Last Edited by Achduke7 on 09/17/2023 01:28 PM Achduke |
BrainGuy: Dark Humorist
Kamala Harris-defined Extremist User ID: 6717853 ![]() 09/17/2023 01:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Signs in the stars. A messaging system no man can tamper with Quoting: StellaBlue You getting the message? The message is "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here". ![]() --------------------------------------- Beyond the Reset (24 mins, WATCH THIS) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Think of Satan as a machine operating outside of its safety parameters. "He's a liar and a supporter & enabler of tremendous & permanently world-altering evil." - Scrump |
BrainGuy: Dark Humorist
Kamala Harris-defined Extremist User ID: 6717853 ![]() 09/17/2023 01:47 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86003191 I'm trying to inch you forward with this, I think the truth is beginning to register in your mind but you're fighting it. Why would they be troubled that the (day of Christ) Rapture was at hand? The Rapture can't be at hand and also be in the past as you claim the church of Thessalonica believed it'd already happened can it? That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Th 2:2 (KJV) So why in the world would they be shaken in mind and troubled as though the Rapture was at hand? Wouldn't they be joyful and elated? And if the Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52), how would they even have time to be troubled in the first place? You're not wrong in your interpretation of the day of Christ, the reason the above questions do not make sense in regard to the day of Christ (the Rapture) is because the Bible's have been changed. The day of the Lord is judgment and if you insert Lord for Christ, the passage makes sense and brings on a whole different meaning. It's always been day of the Lord in 2 Th 2:2 which is judgment. The KJV and the NKJV have been changed. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] We are in the very end of days and there is no greater proof than the supernatural changes that have occurred in every physical Bible worldwide. If you search, you can see residue of the truth in other translations of the same scripture or in articles like the below than never mention the scripture in question. Most unbelievers will never go through such lengths to discover the truth and will be deceived. [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] There are 244 instances where the Greek Kyriou which means Lord is mentioned and 2 Thessalonians 2:2 in one of them. Most as you've done will take the changed Bibles at face value and even look to the KJV to further prove your point not knowing you're referencing a corrupted source. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] Debating this doesn't matter though as there is so little time left. You're either going in the Rapture or you're not. They are not shaken by the harpazo, they are shaken believing they missed the harpazo. The Thessalonians were led to believe that they missed the harpazo. Paul said that is not true. They should not believe the words of lying men. The resurrection is of hope in seeing the Lord and being with Christ. The Thessalonians believed they missed it. I would be shaken also if I thought I missed the gathering with the Lord. Now Paul says do not believe these lies. Here is what to look for before the harpazo happens. 1) the falling away. 2) the man of sin revealed. I honestly don't see how others don't see this, it's SO obvious. Perhaps it's hidden from them. In Luke 18 Jesus plainly tells His disciples what will happen with Him, but it was hidden from them... ~~~Now He took the twelve aside and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all the things that have been written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. “For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be ridiculed, and abused, and spit upon, and after they have flogged Him, they will kill Him; and on the third day He will rise.” The disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said.~~~ Not sure, Is it fear? They are always worried on how bad these time will be but what is there to fear if we have God on our side? I am either killed, sleep in the ground a bit and i am resurrected to the Glory of God and Christ or I survive, i am then resurrected and see the Glory of God and Christ. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; ![]() --------------------------------------- Beyond the Reset (24 mins, WATCH THIS) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Think of Satan as a machine operating outside of its safety parameters. "He's a liar and a supporter & enabler of tremendous & permanently world-altering evil." - Scrump |
Fossy
User ID: 73957956 ![]() 09/17/2023 03:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feast of Trumpets has ended. We still have the rest of the month until the rev12 sign breaks up. Btw. I was listening to a teacher and he was talking about the 144,000 and he had a theory that I have never heard before and it is that the 144,000 because they have no guile and have never sinned, and never been with women or anything like that, virgins etc. That day could possibly be all of the babies that were slain in those two years that Herod was killing boy babies under the age of two years old, trying to find the Messiah. It, Scripture says they go with him wherever he goes. And that just makes my goosebumps burst out all over me, because it would be so like our savior to make these poor children that were killed for his sake, a part of his entourage. . Praise Jesus! Thread: A new and unique theory for a September rapture. Jesus is coming for us! Never give up this blessed hope. There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. |
MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feast of Trumpets has ended. We still have the rest of the month until the rev12 sign breaks up. Quoting: Fossy Btw. I was listening to a teacher and he was talking about the 144,000 and he had a theory that I have never heard before and it is that the 144,000 because they have no guile and have never sinned, and never been with women or anything like that, virgins etc. That day could possibly be all of the babies that were slain in those two years that Herod was killing boy babies under the age of two years old, trying to find the Messiah. It, Scripture says they go with him wherever he goes. And that just makes my goosebumps burst out all over me, because it would be so like our savior to make these poor children that were killed for his sake, a part of his entourage. . Praise Jesus! Do you believe the 144,000 in chapter 7 are the same as the 144,000 in chapter 14? Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Fossy
User ID: 73957956 ![]() 09/17/2023 03:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feast of Trumpets has ended. We still have the rest of the month until the rev12 sign breaks up. Quoting: Fossy Btw. I was listening to a teacher and he was talking about the 144,000 and he had a theory that I have never heard before and it is that the 144,000 because they have no guile and have never sinned, and never been with women or anything like that, virgins etc. That day could possibly be all of the babies that were slain in those two years that Herod was killing boy babies under the age of two years old, trying to find the Messiah. It, Scripture says they go with him wherever he goes. And that just makes my goosebumps burst out all over me, because it would be so like our savior to make these poor children that were killed for his sake, a part of his entourage. . Praise Jesus! Do you believe the 144,000 in chapter 7 are the same as the 144,000 in chapter 14? Right off the bat, I couldn’t tell you. I’d have to study it a bit. A while back someone posted about the chromosome change in the vaxxed, taking them from 144,000 chromosomes to something more. I don’t remember the number. That sounded really interesting too. Thread: A new and unique theory for a September rapture. Jesus is coming for us! Never give up this blessed hope. There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. |
Achduke7
User ID: 84236287 ![]() 09/17/2023 03:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feast of Trumpets has ended. We still have the rest of the month until the rev12 sign breaks up. Quoting: Fossy Btw. I was listening to a teacher and he was talking about the 144,000 and he had a theory that I have never heard before and it is that the 144,000 because they have no guile and have never sinned, and never been with women or anything like that, virgins etc. That day could possibly be all of the babies that were slain in those two years that Herod was killing boy babies under the age of two years old, trying to find the Messiah. It, Scripture says they go with him wherever he goes. And that just makes my goosebumps burst out all over me, because it would be so like our savior to make these poor children that were killed for his sake, a part of his entourage. . Praise Jesus! The tribulation does not start until they are sealed which rules out them being from the past. Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. It is possible that since they have the Holy Spirit that their sins have been wiped away. Also it is possible that they never fornicated with foreign Gods and are considered virgins. I submit that they are truly the bride of Christ. The born again crowd believes they are the bride but would Christ leave his bride? Who is it that Christ shows up with and never leaves his side? Achduke |
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MindWideOpen
User ID: 83719469 ![]() 09/17/2023 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone is interested, the prophecy of the 144,000 can be found here. Eze - k - iel Chapter 9 1 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer’s inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer’s inkhorn by his side; 4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof 5 ¶ And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
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