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Another reason Christianity is F'd up.

 
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there is something to be said for etymology .... You really can't hide or deny it. "Amen" meaning "so be it" didn't arrive out of the wind? Or did it? the winds of change? :D
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I agree with you and the other poster, there is something in phonetics and etymology. I just don't see how amen has corrupted Christianity.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


Ever heard of "OMMMMMMMMM"

?

It is the sound of creation. Like, when you go "ummmmmmm" when getting ready to express your next thoughts.....


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.

What is a word? sound. Frequency. This is why there is power in the spoken word. Sound, frequency has effect. It matters.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~


In the bible THE WORD is Jesus, it's not words. Jesus is called the Word because that's how Jesus is manifest to the world outside of the brief incarnation.

The bible is the Word of God or the Spirit of Christ.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


That's how YOU understand and perceive it. Not me. I've learned to look deeper, and not superficially. Go ahead and label me new age or however you want. I'm used to it.

Christians don't like deeper meanings. They like rituals and are comfortable with what they are told the meanings of what means what. What on earth do they do with Holy Spirit? They have lots of ideas. Superficially, of course.
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I agree with you and the other poster, there is something in phonetics and etymology. I just don't see how amen has corrupted Christianity.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


Ever heard of "OMMMMMMMMM"

?

It is the sound of creation. Like, when you go "ummmmmmm" when getting ready to express your next thoughts.....


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.

What is a word? sound. Frequency. This is why there is power in the spoken word. Sound, frequency has effect. It matters.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~


In the bible THE WORD is Jesus, it's not words. Jesus is called the Word because that's how Jesus is manifest to the world outside of the brief incarnation.

The bible is the Word of God or the Spirit of Christ.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


That's how YOU understand and perceive it. Not me. I've learned to look deeper, and not superficially. Go ahead and label me new age or however you want. I'm used to it.

Christians don't like deeper meanings. They like rituals and are comfortable with what they are told the meanings of what means what. What on earth do they do with Holy Spirit? They have lots of ideas. Superficially, of course.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

I can't give you any other perspective than the biblical perspective, that's all I know.

The bible doesn't teach frequency or raising your vibration or creating things with our words. I'm not disrespecting you, I'm just telling what I know from the bible.
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Ever heard of "OMMMMMMMMM"

?

It is the sound of creation. Like, when you go "ummmmmmm" when getting ready to express your next thoughts.....


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.

What is a word? sound. Frequency. This is why there is power in the spoken word. Sound, frequency has effect. It matters.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~


In the bible THE WORD is Jesus, it's not words. Jesus is called the Word because that's how Jesus is manifest to the world outside of the brief incarnation.

The bible is the Word of God or the Spirit of Christ.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


That's how YOU understand and perceive it. Not me. I've learned to look deeper, and not superficially. Go ahead and label me new age or however you want. I'm used to it.

Christians don't like deeper meanings. They like rituals and are comfortable with what they are told the meanings of what means what. What on earth do they do with Holy Spirit? They have lots of ideas. Superficially, of course.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

I can't give you any other perspective than the biblical perspective, that's all I know.

The bible doesn't teach frequency or raising your vibration or creating things with our words. I'm not disrespecting you, I'm just telling what I know from the bible.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


Then you will be limited by the words of a cold, dead and limiting language.

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Re: Another reason Christianity is F'd up.
Most of Christianity already has their mind made on a biblical doctrine and they will twist words to make a specific scripture line up with their preconceived ideas. I'll give you an example.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Those who lie and misrepresent Christianity will say that "that day" is talking about the second coming of Christ.

It's impossible for it to mean that because "except" is CONDITIONAL and the second coming of Christ IS NOT conditional.

This view does not line up with anyone's preconceived ideas about this passage. That being the case, the true meaning of that entire passage is hidden from their eyes.

An analogy of that verse would be: "Let no man deceive you by any means: for my paycheck shall not come except I go to work first so that my employer will pay me.

No one would argue the meaning of what I just said.

Now watch all the assholes come in here and tell me how wrong I am.... not based on the text, but base on what they THINK the text says because they already have their minds made up on what it says.
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There is an end to the gentiles….
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In the bible THE WORD is Jesus, it's not words. Jesus is called the Word because that's how Jesus is manifest to the world outside of the brief incarnation.

The bible is the Word of God or the Spirit of Christ.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


That's how YOU understand and perceive it. Not me. I've learned to look deeper, and not superficially. Go ahead and label me new age or however you want. I'm used to it.

Christians don't like deeper meanings. They like rituals and are comfortable with what they are told the meanings of what means what. What on earth do they do with Holy Spirit? They have lots of ideas. Superficially, of course.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

I can't give you any other perspective than the biblical perspective, that's all I know.

The bible doesn't teach frequency or raising your vibration or creating things with our words. I'm not disrespecting you, I'm just telling what I know from the bible.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


Then you will be limited by the words of a cold, dead and limiting language.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

Where do you get your info from?
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Re: Another reason Christianity is F'd up.
Most of Christianity already has their mind made on a biblical doctrine and they will twist words to make a specific scripture line up with their preconceived ideas. I'll give you an example.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Those who lie and misrepresent Christianity will say that "that day" is talking about the second coming of Christ.

It's impossible for it to mean that because "except" is CONDITIONAL and the second coming of Christ IS NOT conditional.

This view does not line up with anyone's preconceived ideas about this passage. That being the case, the true meaning of that entire passage is hidden from their eyes.

An analogy of that verse would be: "Let no man deceive you by any means: for my paycheck shall not come except I go to work first so that my employer will pay me.

No one would argue the meaning of what I just said.

Now watch all the assholes come in here and tell me how wrong I am.... not based on the text, but base on what they THINK the text says because they already have their minds made up on what it says.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


There is an end to the gentiles….
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In what way? What does the end of the Gentiles mean?
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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That's how YOU understand and perceive it. Not me. I've learned to look deeper, and not superficially. Go ahead and label me new age or however you want. I'm used to it.

Christians don't like deeper meanings. They like rituals and are comfortable with what they are told the meanings of what means what. What on earth do they do with Holy Spirit? They have lots of ideas. Superficially, of course.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

I can't give you any other perspective than the biblical perspective, that's all I know.

The bible doesn't teach frequency or raising your vibration or creating things with our words. I'm not disrespecting you, I'm just telling what I know from the bible.
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


Then you will be limited by the words of a cold, dead and limiting language.
 Quoting: ~ Satya ~

Where do you get your info from?
 Quoting: MindWideOpen


likely from the same place you do.
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Christianity was infiltrated with misinformation long ago

The word Amen is a pagan god's name for child sacrifice
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Yes by the time the vatican got involved. Jesus never started your religion...you are no more special than anyone else.just a 2.5 billion controlled hive mind. So is Islam. The witnesses to the end times...are you and islam.and it's showing now that manipulation now which is going one.

Do you ones realize the evil involved in BELIEVING your daddy god sends all who do not
Follow Jesus to burn in Hell. Jesus never taught hell..and you are being used to destroy his teaching..and don't go quite your deliberately mucked up bible as any proof of anything.
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1st, we have copies of most of the early church fathers letters, if what you say is true it would be obvious in there writings, it's not. Not one scholar I'm aware of supports your view. This topic has been studied for thousNds of years

God didn't create hell, its not listed in the creation. account in Genesis. God created the heavens and the earth and pronounced them VERY GOOD. He then created humans from basically a pile of mud and offered humans the role of being the managers of the physical realm as God's representative here on earth. We image bearing creatures were to manage and rule this realm using God's wisdom and guidance. Adam failed and opted In stead to rule based on his own understanding of good and evil. By seazing autonomy Evil entered the world and the hell we live in is a result of not living as God's imagers on earth. a lot of people like to say I'm created in the image of God yet they live selfeshly and leave a wake of broken relationships and people in there paths. that is not God's image, God clearly said that if Adam eat of the fruit he would die. death equalling a type of hell. humans choose anD create hell daily. The good news is God wants to get the hell out of his creation. and this is accomplished thru the life death and resurrection of Jesus. because hell is baked into u. since u choose to mock ignore and mislead the story of God promoting conspiracy theories and half truths. how would u propose God gets the hell out of u and if at the end u still choose your autonomy as Adam did what is God to do with u when he restores his creation and u chose to align with a decision that leads to injustice and destruction? He will remove you from his creation and where ever u land it will be a kind of hell but that place is a testiment to God's respect of your decision to choose to reject him. he didn't sentence you to hell, you simply choose hell and renew its creation by not living in community as God would have it. The idea that hell is a sub terrain torture chamber comes from. medieval fiction. not scripture.
there really are some great resources. that. teach the biblical narrative properly. i recomend the bible project on utube. they have a great set of cartoons that are short and to the point that break these topics down showing that the bible is a unified story leading to Jesus Christ. u obviously have spent to much time on the history Channel. perhaps an honest look may help u sort it out.
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Christianity was infiltrated with misinformation long ago

The word Amen is a pagan god's name for child sacrifice
 Quoting: Tour Guide


Yes by the time the vatican got involved. Jesus never started your religion...you are no more special than anyone else.just a 2.5 billion controlled hive mind. So is Islam. The witnesses to the end times...are you and islam.and it's showing now that manipulation now which is going one.

Do you ones realize the evil involved in BELIEVING your daddy god sends all who do not
Follow Jesus to burn in Hell. Jesus never taught hell..and you are being used to destroy his teaching..and don't go quite your deliberately mucked up bible as any proof of anything.
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Candace is that what your imaginary Jesus told you on the craft?
Are you still standing by your story of personally knowing Jesus and meeting him on the ships and being appointed the Celestial leader of the planet after the ET evacuation and magnetic reversal?

And you an evil antichrist doomsday cult leader and blaspheming liar call us F*& up?
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Re: Another reason Christianity is F'd up.
Christianity is fine.

Jesus Christ is fine.

Faith in Jesus Christ is fine.

Why do you attack and defame?
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Re: Another reason Christianity is F'd up.
Christianity is fine.

Jesus Christ is fine.

Faith in Jesus Christ is fine.

Why do you attack and defame?
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There’s nothing Christian about Christianity today, it’s all a bunch of made up crap not based on the Bible. Most Christians don’t even believe in an inerrant bible anymore and it shows.
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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Re: Another reason Christianity is F'd up.
Of course that day is the day of the lord or seven year tribulation.
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Couch Christian’s don’t have a doctrine. That’s me.
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Couch Christian’s don’t have a doctrine. That’s me.
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Most people nowadays make it up as they go.
Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?





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