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TPTB desperate to pull off a WMD "false flag" op!

 
Anonymous Coward
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TPTB desperate to pull off a WMD "false flag" op!
TPTB are so achingly yearningly wanting to pull off a devastating WMD "false flag" op so desperately badly, it's almost palpable! [link to abcnews.go.com]
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Message to Galactic Federation of Light: DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO
DO THIS OUTRAGEOUS ACT.
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Message to Humans

RE: DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THIS OUTRAGEOUS ACT

Why don't you stop them ? They're your guys.

- Galactic Federation of Light
Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ?

Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011
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TPTB are so achingly yearningly wanting to pull off a devastating WMD "false flag" op so desperately badly, it's almost palpable! [link to abcnews.go.com]
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Seems to me it is you who are desperate to blame the next terrorist outrage on your own government! rather than have to face the fact that there are evil people who want to exterminate Westerners from the face of the earth.
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Seems to me it is you who are desperate to blame the next terrorist outrage on your own government! rather than have to face the fact that there are evil people who want to exterminate Westerners from the face of the earth.
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Seems to me it is you who are desperate to believe there are cave dwellers out there who want to destroy you because they hate your freedoms!! rather than putting some critical thinking into action and demanding some truth from your own government.

Just for me - ask them WTF happened to WTC7 and for some precedent to demonstrate they're not just making things up.
Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ?

Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011
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one has to be very careful about what they say here on this one don't they ....

even if you don't have anything to do with it ... but can perceive at a distance ---- events that happen ... you may be connected to it ... right?

all i can say at this stage is what i've been talking about for years .... watch the west coast of CONUS for signficant earthquake activity ... that's an event that happens in time just prior to thread event.

can't say more as i am just an innocent bystander ... useless eater ... advanced remote viewer.
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Russia's Communist

World Domination Plan

Home

The 1982 book "We will bury you" by Czechoslovak general Jan Sejna.

He defected in February 1968. He was [allegedly] murdered [poisoned] in 1997, most likely by the Russians, because he testified in front of representative Bob Dornan's U.S. Congressional Committee on U.S. POWs.

[link to www.anti-communistanalyst.com]

Sejna, as the Deputy Secretary of the highest decision-making body the

Czechoslovak [communist] Defense Council, he was the highest level

ever defector from communism.



Sejna knew about the Soviet long range plan which was named

Perestroika and fully implemented by Gorbachev at the end of 1980.

page 101

One of the basic problems of the West is its frequent failure to recognize the existence of any Soviet grand design at all. Those rejecting this concept unwittingly serve Soviet efforts to conceal their objectives and further complicate the process of determining such objectives.

While many Western political analysts scoff at the idea of a coherent Soviet strategy, Brezhnev has said that "the liquidation of colonial empires was effectively completed in the seventies. The sphere of Imperialist domination in the World has narrowed."
----
page 103

While the main target of the strategic plan is the United States, a direct attack against it would invite great damage to the Soviet Union.

Therefore to avoid direct conflict with the U.S. the Plan calls for the isolation of the 'main enemy' by the 'Finlandization' of Europe [ed. note: .... means subversion and infiltration], reduction of western political and economic access to the Third World by establishing pro-Soviet regimes whenever and wherever possible; and insurgency in areas of importance to the U.S., such as Central America.

The Soviet Strategic Plan for the establishment of their 'Socialism' worldwide, without a doubt exists and however flexible and pragmatic Soviet policy appears, it is essentially directed towards the achievements of the Plan's objectives - objectives which have been, are and will remain utterly inimical to and subversive of the freedoms enjoyed by the states of the Western world.

page 104

The blueprint for this Plan was first debated at the Warsaw Pact meeting in Moscow in October, 1966. The Soviet delegation, led by Brezhnev, proposed that the countries of the Pact should together draw up a strategic plan giving them a long-term domestic and foreign objectives.



Page 105:

....it is worth nothing that the final objective of the [domestic economic aspects of the Plan] was to achieve near self-sufficiency in the Eastern European countries by the late 1980s.



It was accepted that the Soviet Union would not outstrip the United States in all areas of the economy, but the Plan gave priority to closing the scientific and technological gap and even overtaking the U.S.A. in applied military technology.



The emphasis in the domestic plan on accelerating the rate of technological and industrial advance was justified, not in terms of improving living standards, but

solely by the need to achieve a revolution in military science......



page 106:



Phase One, "The Period of Preparation for Peaceful Co-existence"

was retrospective and covered the time from .... 1956 to 1959.



Phase Two, "The Peaceful Co-existence Struggle" [note the word struggle] was expected to last from .....1960 to 1972.



Phase Three was "The Period of Dynamic Social Change" leading to Phase Four, "The Era of Global Democratic Peace", which it was hoped would dawn in 1995.....

........

Khrushchev's de-Stalinization policy had opened a gateway to the West; his achievement [ed. note - clearly a communist deception] had been to persuade the West that the [Soviet] Pact was prepared to replace military rivalry by economic competition.

.......

In Phase Two the main strategic objectives were to promote disunity in the West and accelerate the social fragmentation of the Capitalist countries.

.......

Page 107:

We planned to use our [ed. note - communist] penetration of the European Social Democratic Parties to weaken their ties with the United States and strengthen their will for an accommodation with the Warsaw Pact....



[Ed. note - this was also achieved in the United States by electing the

anti-defense treasonous Bill Clinton and his cohorts, like KGB agent

Armand Hammer's friend Al Gore, to the White House.



Clinton's 1970 ties to Czechoslovak communist military intelligence colonel Bedrich Kopold, son-in-law of the Czechoslovak Communist Party founding members Jan and Marie Sverma, is of extreme importance......and by Clinton's evil deeds we can also judge his and his administration's subsequent pro-communist pro-Russian fruits....]

Gen. Sejna:



Inside the United States we would encourage isolationism and stir up internal disorder, focusing the attacks of the radical movement over there on the military and industrial establishment as barriers to peace......



[Ed. note - the role in directing and the support of such pro-communist radical anti-American anti-war groups could be traced back to Hungarian born

George Soros.....it is part of long-term KGB operation to weaken the West

from within......



Also, what is extremely important sign of serious KGB penetration of the

U.S. Congress and Government is the fact that the democrats, who in reality

follow communist ideology, blocked and hampered in any possible and

impossible way any type of America's oil and related energy resources

production, including blocking the drilling for oil in Alaska and offshore

the U.S. coast - and this again shows the clear Russian strategic war-time

plan to prevent the enemy, the United States, to beforehand have

substantial oil and energy war-time reserves......and the democrats

in power have helped to achieve this evil ......]

Gen. Sejna:



In the Middle East we were to encourage Arab nationalism, urge

the nationalization of oil, and work [ed. note - organize and control

-for example Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran] for the overthrow of Arab

monarchies and their replacement by "progressive governments"

....



From about 1977, according to our forecasts in the Plan, the new

Middle East regimes would respond to our strategy and, through

their oil, give us the ability to deliver a paralyzing blow to

Capitalism......


page 107

The main strategic purpose of Phase Three, 'The Period of Dynamic Social Change', was in the words of the Soviet directive, "to smash the hope of false democracy" and bring about the total de-moralization of the West.
Our relationship with the United States would be the vital element in this phase.

By fostering belief in our policy of friendship and cooperation with America, we planned to receive the greatest possible economic and technological help from the West, and at the same time convince the capitalist countries that they had no need of military alliances.

page 108

The erosion of NATO begun in Phase Two would be completed by the withdrawal of the United States from its commitment to the defense of Europe and by European hostility to military expenditure generated by economic recession and fanned by the efforts of the 'progressive' movements.

To this end we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defense arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon.

The Soviet view was that during phase three Capitalism would suffer an economic crisis that would bring Europe to its knees and stimulate the influence of "progressive forces" [Ed. note - KGB fronts] in European governments.

Our planners believed we could discount the possibility of a world war in this phase because the U.S.A. would have withdrawn its commitment to help its former allies.

-----------
The fourth and final phase of the Plan looked forward to the dawn of "Global Democratic Peace".

At the start of Phase Four the U.S. would be isolated from both Europe and the developing countries. We could therefore undermine it by the use of external economic weapons and so create the social and economic conditions for 'progressive forces' to emerge inside the country.

In this Phase, the Plan envisaged a resurgence of the arms race, leading to eventual military superiority of the Warsaw Pact, which the United States would accept.



[Editor's note: What Sejna means by this is not some kind of willing acceptance of this arms race, but solely a blind and trusting acceptance on part of the West, as the pre-arranged "collapse of communism" would be accepted in full and these Western societies would not feel threatened by any such "formerly communist" weapons production increase.....]


----


Once America had abandoned the defense of Europe we should apply ourselves to convincing the Europeans that the U.S. was pursuing self-interested policy and even conspiring actively against them; thus we would increase America's isolation.

page 109

Whatever temporary accommodations the Soviet leader's are prepared to make, their long-term objectives remain constant. In Khrushchev's words: "We will bury you...."
--
As first Secretary of the Party in the [Czechoslovak] Ministry of Defense I was a member of the Administrative Department, through which passed all the major Soviet directives, and so I was able to monitor the progress
of the Plan.

My responsibility was to instruct the military officers selected to work on the Plan in the political aspects of the main strategic objectives and also to ensure that the tactical aims followed Party guidelines and priorities.

page 112

What continues to bother me is the West's lack of unity and coherent strategy which has certainly not improved in the last few years.


Moreover, it is not enough simply to have plans for opposing or even destroying Communism. Something better must be offered in its place.



What is the West's program ? What is its strategy ?



So far I have heard nothing coherent about this from Western politicians.

Another cause for concern is that many people in the West including some of its leaders do not understand the real significance of the détente to the Soviet Union.

When, along with other Czech leaders, I met Brezhnev in Moscow in 1966 to discuss détente and these were his words:


"Some Left extremists misunderstand détente.



They think we are surrendering to the Capitalists.



They don't understand that it gives us a free hand - a free hand to almost all the Communist movements in the World, and this is most important."

[Ed. note - the truth in this statement we can se in the United States daily - just listen to

any proposal of a Congressman or a Senator with "progressive" past - this fits as a glove,

no loose ends.



Once the Russian communist hand controls such naive duped "revolutionaries", they

would do everything possible to pay tribute to the party and to fulfill all tasks that the

party orders to accomplish.



One of the main tasks is to destroy, from within, the main enemy,

the United States of America.



Soon it will be realized, soon. ]
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yes.

may forward ... on this thread ... in the very near future ... data collected on that ...
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In a limited scope ... it's in the form of a Sino/Russian alliance ... that's the instrument that accomplishes the endgame ---- destruction and invasion of CONUS.

In reality, as many of you know, it's a much larger game.

Jesuit Order being a primary ... pinnacle player.





GLP