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Anonymous Coward User ID: 233943 United States 06/02/2008 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hun, its true. A technical description of it is thus: Reality is both a wave and a particle; the Atman and the Brahman. Humanity is the wave, Jesus is the particle. God in the flesh. You find that hard to believe? Why, cause Man, in his use of his godlike ego, has used Jesus? Becuase he died? He is not the messiah? ::::: He had to die to go thru Earth's reincarnation cycle, and take on the cloak of the veil of ignorance. As Jesus knew, the second coming is about the will of the father, as opposed to Jesus, the will of the son. In that way, the father will use the second coming like a tool. This will bring the real change: the kingdom of god is at hand. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 233943 United States 06/02/2008 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A white light, put it thru a prism, what do ya get? A rainbow. The colors of a rainbow make up the components of the white light. There are no color bands of white light in a rainbow. Jesus' connection to god was so great he was a band of white; loses that in reincarnation. But becomes the rainbow. Tis the will of God. |
GDW (OP) User ID: 444507 Australia 06/02/2008 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 233943A white light, put it thru a prism, what do ya get? A rainbow. The colors of a rainbow make up the components of the white light. There are no color bands of white light in a rainbow. Jesus' connection to god was so great he was a band of white; loses that in reincarnation. But becomes the rainbow. Tis the will of God. I think you are touching on one of the most important concepts on earth. |
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User ID: 233943 United States 06/02/2008 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is one. Quoting: GDW 444507A white light, put it thru a prism, what do ya get? A rainbow. The colors of a rainbow make up the components of the white light. There are no color bands of white light in a rainbow. Jesus' connection to god was so great he was a band of white; loses that in reincarnation. But becomes the rainbow. Tis the will of God. I think you are touching on one of the most important concepts on earth. I just had to login to say TX :) Its true, wink. |
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User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 06/02/2008 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GDW .....water hole.... Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said: Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid. Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy, Yitzhak Kaduri The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are eectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua. More information here [link to www.israeltoday.co.il] Lotus i love satan |
repenting backslider User ID: 444575 United States 06/02/2008 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm reading the Bible for myself Jesus explained how He was giving up His life of His own free will the prophets laid it all out Messiah would be cut off for the sake of many the common thread of salvation through atonement runs through the whole book Ezekiel 36 and 37 came true before our eyes 38 and 39 are next Joel chapter 3 Haggai Isaiah of course Daniel and Zechariah events are transpiring at a rapid pace just as the ancients pictured Jesus Himself allowed Himself to be worshipped as Lord when Peter declared Him the Christ Jesus did not chastise him millions and millions have died for their faith in Jesus Christ sure there's been a ton of corruption the devil wants more than anything to discredit Christianity he is a liar and the father of all lies we are on the edge of the end of this dispensation I am reading the Bible for myself and praying for increase faith, wisdom, and discernment mentioning Horus Isis etc. shows how ancient the lies are I pray to be sanctified by the Truth -- His Word is truth He is the Solid Rock and there is no other name by which we may be saved |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45315 United Kingdom 06/02/2008 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh but how right the Jews were; the myth of Jesus Christ the Messiah is the biggest lie in history ------------ Well, I suppose that depends on how you look at things. We have 2 light sources that power our engines, 1 is in the red and one is in the blue. To get to the blue you have to literally sacrifice the red, and if you're in the blue, then you are in the blue, the messenger can relay te truth because his conscience is in that god spirit, the singularity, that blueprint of our spiritual selves. All that the Jews do, relates to that christ spirit, that christ light, if it werent then they'd all be muslims wouldnt they? lol |
GDW (OP) User ID: 444507 Australia 06/02/2008 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GDW .....water hole.... Quoting: Lotus FeetRabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said: Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid. Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy, Yitzhak Kaduri The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are eectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua. More information here [link to www.israeltoday.co.il] Lotus Thanks for the great information. :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 186930 Canada 06/03/2008 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said all who came before Him were thieves and robbers. These thieves didn't create the myth of a savior and then play out this myth they invented on the worlds stage. The story of the Savior is written in the stars from the very foundation of creation, and the heavens declare the glory of God in Christ. |
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User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 06/03/2008 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh but how right the Jews were; the myth of Jesus Christ the Messiah is the biggest lie in history Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45315------------ Well, I suppose that depends on how you look at things. We have 2 light sources that power our engines, 1 is in the red and one is in the blue. To get to the blue you have to literally sacrifice the red, and if you're in the blue, then you are in the blue, the messenger can relay te truth because his conscience is in that god spirit, the singularity, that blueprint of our spiritual selves. All that the Jews do, relates to that christ spirit, that christ light, if it werent then they'd all be muslims wouldnt they? lol The Jewish people are waiting for two. One from the House of Joseph and one from the House of David. Jesus promised he would send you one in the end times of the end of the age to tell you what is to come. He said he would send this person from the father. Lotus Feet i love satan |
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User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 06/03/2008 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GDW .....water hole.... Quoting: GDW 444507Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said: Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid. Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy, Yitzhak Kaduri The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are eectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua. More information here [link to www.israeltoday.co.il] Lotus Thanks for the great information. :) Those that believe Jesus is a myth do not know him. Bible says that those that do not believe that Jesus was the Son of God or believe in the father are anti-christs. Lotus i love satan |
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User ID: 433953 United Kingdom 06/03/2008 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The anti-christs are only mentioned in the book of John. 1 John 2:17-19 17The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever. Warning Against Antichrists 18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. 1 John 2:21-23 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 1 John 4:2-4 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 2 John 1:6-8 6And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. People who do the will of God are Saints they align their will with God's will and follow instructions. “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2:6-16 NIV Lotus i love satan |
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GDW User ID: 445202 Australia 06/03/2008 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said all who came before Him were thieves and robbers. These thieves didn't create the myth of a savior and then play out this myth they invented on the worlds stage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 186930The story of the Savior is written in the stars from the very foundation of creation, and the heavens declare the glory of God in Christ. Wow...nice post. |
GDW User ID: 445202 Australia 06/03/2008 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many eyewitnesses to miracles, people being raised from the dead, healings...Jesus is the Messiah. If he was only "enlightened" then all the other miracles and raising people from the dead that no one else on this earth has done since ... wasn't done by a mere mortal...he is the son of God. Your argument is not logical. I'll put my trust in Him, rather on someone on the internet who thinks He can dismiss Jesus. Quoting: Diamond 380667I don't dismiss Jesus at all. I can't find anywhere in the NT where Jesus said he was the son of God...son of man yes...but son of God...no. The closest I found was when he was being accused of calling himself the son of God...and he answered...'this is what you say...' or words to that affect. Interestingly, in the Good News version...it states that Jesus answered ''Yes' this is what you say'. Now these people were warned about adding words to these books...I'm presumming the later version has the addition. |
GDW User ID: 445202 Australia 06/03/2008 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh but how right the Jews were; the myth of Jesus Christ the Messiah is the biggest lie in history Quoting: Lotus Feet------------ Well, I suppose that depends on how you look at things. We have 2 light sources that power our engines, 1 is in the red and one is in the blue. To get to the blue you have to literally sacrifice the red, and if you're in the blue, then you are in the blue, the messenger can relay te truth because his conscience is in that god spirit, the singularity, that blueprint of our spiritual selves. All that the Jews do, relates to that christ spirit, that christ light, if it werent then they'd all be muslims wouldnt they? lol The Jewish people are waiting for two. One from the House of Joseph and one from the House of David. Jesus promised he would send you one in the end times of the end of the age to tell you what is to come. He said he would send this person from the father. Lotus Feet Are you talking about two 'Christs'? Or a witness or a John the Baptist? |
GDW User ID: 445202 Australia 06/03/2008 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GDW .....water hole.... Quoting: Lotus FeetRabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah. With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said: Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid. Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy, Yitzhak Kaduri The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are eectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua. More information here [link to www.israeltoday.co.il] Lotus Thanks for the great information. :) Those that believe Jesus is a myth do not know him. Bible says that those that do not believe that Jesus was the Son of God or believe in the father are anti-christs. Lotus Yeah, yeah i've heard all that. But while you're laying down the law...you need to look at the essay. Jesus IS NOT necessarily a myth...the fact that he is the messiah/Son of God is the myth. To be fair to the premise of the thread, please keep within the context of the proposal or acknowledge that you are introducing a new concept. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 441597 United States 06/03/2008 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what people miss is the whole idea of Jesus in the first place. We're ALL children of God, otherwise give yourself life. Jesus represented the son of God that was put into flesh and never gave into the flesh, never sinned, not once, nothing had power over him except for his spirit from God. So God was very pleased with his son and spoke truth through him. And God used Jesus as an example of how we are all intended to be if we want to show God love. And because Jesus was absolutely pure and put to death, He is the maximum possible sacrifice for the eternal forgiveness of sins, because Jesus in his sinless state was tortured and put to death yet he still forgave his oppressors. So yes, he is the messiah, because through his sacrifice are you able to be forgiven for your lusts of fleshy sins, and through his example are you able to show God love the way he wants us to. |
GDW User ID: 445202 Australia 06/03/2008 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what people miss is the whole idea of Jesus in the first place. We're ALL children of God, otherwise give yourself life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441597Jesus represented the son of God that was put into flesh and never gave into the flesh, never sinned, not once, nothing had power over him except for his spirit from God. So God was very pleased with his son and spoke truth through him. And God used Jesus as an example of how we are all intended to be if we want to show God love. And because Jesus was absolutely pure and put to death, He is the maximum possible sacrifice for the eternal forgiveness of sins, because Jesus in his sinless state was tortured and put to death yet he still forgave his oppressors. So yes, he is the messiah, because through his sacrifice are you able to be forgiven for your lusts of fleshy sins, and through his example are you able to show God love the way he wants us to. That is a very powerful premise. Perhaps you are right. Time will tell. :) |
repenting backslider User ID: 445227 United States 06/03/2008 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many eyewitnesses to miracles, people being raised from the dead, healings...Jesus is the Messiah. If he was only "enlightened" then all the other miracles and raising people from the dead that no one else on this earth has done since ... wasn't done by a mere mortal...he is the son of God. Your argument is not logical. I'll put my trust in Him, rather on someone on the internet who thinks He can dismiss Jesus. Quoting: GDW 445202I don't dismiss Jesus at all. I can't find anywhere in the NT where Jesus said he was the son of God...son of man yes...but son of God...no. The closest I found was when he was being accused of calling himself the son of God...and he answered...'this is what you say...' or words to that affect. Interestingly, in the Good News version...it states that Jesus answered ''Yes' this is what you say'. Now these people were warned about adding words to these books...I'm presumming the later version has the addition. I used to notice that too then as I kept reading and reading and reading I finally saw where Jesus says if someone testifies of himself that testimony is not true He goes on to say the Father testifies of Him also when John the Baptist sends messengers to ask if He's Messiah He doesn't testify but points out facts it all seems based on the ancient legal system which continues today He went as a Lamb to slaughter - and couldn't be compelled to testify against Himself |
jp User ID: 82347 United States 06/03/2008 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You still don't get it do you. Don't let them fool ya. All thoughts become manifest. The christos was in the beginning. Jesus has come to all people in all times. Jesus embodied the Christos in the meridian of time. He is all he said and it just wasn't for a select time, and a select people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 445056 United States 06/03/2008 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thing is, while everyone is goin round sayin my way is the truth, the myth is the truth, in the beginning, just alot of names and such have been added thru the eons. but the song remains the same. "God" and His kids, avatars, whatever. people so infantile, need to attach names, labels, religions, and so dumbed down. so far away, and it is all hidden in plain sight. and it does not matter, for what is is. i stay disamazed at the folly of my fellow humans, running like puppies after some truth, when the truth is always where they ran from. |