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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86120325 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom it's important to realize Allegro joined the dead sea scroll project with an agenda. by the time he was involved he had already fallen away from faith and was dead set (no pun intended) on coming up with a more esoteric understanding of scripture that conveniently combined social direction and religion. he was reading his philosophy into scripture not allowing scripture to direct his philosophy. Kipp Davis, PhD is the foremost North America scholar of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He worked for 25 years both in the Levant as well as in Europe and has been creditors with discovering many forgeries. Dr. Davis’s research focuses on the transmission and interpretation of scripture in Second Temple Judaism and the issue of manuscript provenance and authentication of fragments in private collections. His publications in these areas include the monograph The Cave 4 Apocryphon of Jeremiah and the Qumran Jeremianic Traditions (Brill, 2014) and the co-edited volume Gleanings from the Caves: Dead Sea Scrolls Artefacts from the Schøyen Collection (Bloomsbury, 2016). His most recent work combines forensic approaches and scribal studies to develop innovative tools for detecting manuscript forgeries. After 25 years, Dr Davis LEFT CHRISTIANITY. He was raised a Christian and once he was able to compile the entirety of the proof for Jesus he then knew it was a fraud. Go ahead and look him up. His testimony is on YouTube still. |
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Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 70745207 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:18 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86501396 One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC. To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored. Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity. Wut? There’s many scholars who assert Jesus was not a historical figure. There were at least 77 “Christos” written of during this time. And many of them also read the OT prophecies in some regard and calculated the time. in the past what you say is true but virtually no credible modern atheist scholar would argue that many biblical figures, including Jesus, were not real. They have even found a wealth of history regarding Lazarus and the fame he received from being resurrected but no one worshipped him. Either Jesus was the real deal or it's an incredibly detailed scam. You're free to choose. You're the only one who gets to choose your vision... is the glass half empty or half full? Ps.55:22 Give your burdens to the LORD, and he will take care of you. He will not permit the godly to slip and fall. |
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Texas Yellow Rose Colored Glasses... User ID: 70745207 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:24 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom it's important to realize Allegro joined the dead sea scroll project with an agenda. by the time he was involved he had already fallen away from faith and was dead set (no pun intended) on coming up with a more esoteric understanding of scripture that conveniently combined social direction and religion. he was reading his philosophy into scripture not allowing scripture to direct his philosophy. Kipp Davis, PhD is the foremost North America scholar of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He worked for 25 years both in the Levant as well as in Europe and has been creditors with discovering many forgeries. Dr. Davis’s research focuses on the transmission and interpretation of scripture in Second Temple Judaism and the issue of manuscript provenance and authentication of fragments in private collections. His publications in these areas include the monograph The Cave 4 Apocryphon of Jeremiah and the Qumran Jeremianic Traditions (Brill, 2014) and the co-edited volume Gleanings from the Caves: Dead Sea Scrolls Artefacts from the Schøyen Collection (Bloomsbury, 2016). His most recent work combines forensic approaches and scribal studies to develop innovative tools for detecting manuscript forgeries. After 25 years, Dr Davis LEFT CHRISTIANITY. He was raised a Christian and once he was able to compile the entirety of the proof for Jesus he then knew it was a fraud. Go ahead and look him up. His testimony is on YouTube still. I will - thanks for the suggestion as I know God is real and research doesn't frighten me. I am particularly interested in scholars who take a mid temple or second temple cultural understanding of biblical interpretation. I will agree this approach is VERY disturbing to the modern western Christian. That said, this approach illuminates scripture and the supernatural war. It does not usuallt take one away from the faith so I'm interested in why Davis would approach it that way. You're the only one who gets to choose your vision... is the glass half empty or half full? Ps.55:22 Give your burdens to the LORD, and he will take care of you. He will not permit the godly to slip and fall. |
tamaracks User ID: 82351525 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom You might like my old posts about Prince. So much about him represented Dionysus... rose from obscurity Color = purple Guitar strap = leopard skin Female fans entranced into erotic ecstasies Aphrodisiac life style Musical genius worldwide following Early death Fans in deep mourning Some of the same can be said for Jim Morrison of The Doors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85970273 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86501396 One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC. To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored. Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity. Wut? There’s many scholars who assert Jesus was not a historical figure. There were at least 77 “Christos” written of during this time. And many of them also read the OT prophecies in some regard and calculated the time. in the past what you say is true but virtually no credible modern atheist scholar would argue that many biblical figures, including Jesus, were not real. They have even found a wealth of history regarding Lazarus and the fame he received from being resurrected but no one worshipped him. Either Jesus was the real deal or it's an incredibly detailed scam. You're free to choose. Show us this wealth of history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85970273 ![]() 11/19/2023 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom it's important to realize Allegro joined the dead sea scroll project with an agenda. by the time he was involved he had already fallen away from faith and was dead set (no pun intended) on coming up with a more esoteric understanding of scripture that conveniently combined social direction and religion. he was reading his philosophy into scripture not allowing scripture to direct his philosophy. Kipp Davis, PhD is the foremost North America scholar of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He worked for 25 years both in the Levant as well as in Europe and has been creditors with discovering many forgeries. Dr. Davis’s research focuses on the transmission and interpretation of scripture in Second Temple Judaism and the issue of manuscript provenance and authentication of fragments in private collections. His publications in these areas include the monograph The Cave 4 Apocryphon of Jeremiah and the Qumran Jeremianic Traditions (Brill, 2014) and the co-edited volume Gleanings from the Caves: Dead Sea Scrolls Artefacts from the Schøyen Collection (Bloomsbury, 2016). His most recent work combines forensic approaches and scribal studies to develop innovative tools for detecting manuscript forgeries. After 25 years, Dr Davis LEFT CHRISTIANITY. He was raised a Christian and once he was able to compile the entirety of the proof for Jesus he then knew it was a fraud. Go ahead and look him up. His testimony is on YouTube still. I will - thanks for the suggestion as I know God is real and research doesn't frighten me. I am particularly interested in scholars who take a mid temple or second temple cultural understanding of biblical interpretation. I will agree this approach is VERY disturbing to the modern western Christian. That said, this approach illuminates scripture and the supernatural war. It does not usuallt take one away from the faith so I'm interested in why Davis would approach it that way. Dr Richard Carrier recently left Christianity Dr Bart Ehrman recently left Christianity Life long Christians. You’ve got your work cut out for you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 86424669 ![]() 11/19/2023 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85955522 ![]() 11/19/2023 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81448642 "For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish; but unto us who are saved, it is the power of God." -1st Corinthians 1:18 Why is the entire book of Mark paralleled to Homer's Iliad and the Odyssey? And then there are old Bibles that don't depict Jesus rising from the tomb. There are also so many gods depicted as rising from the dead. Why would God expect Jews to believe in Jesus when so much of the story was so similar to pagan beliefs of the time? Or that the Messiah would encourage Jews to violate food laws as was done at the Last Supper when the disciples were told to drink wine as if it were his blood and eat bread as if it were flesh, as pagans had done before this? I've been a Christian my whole life and recently doing a deep dive on history has brought all of this to my attention. How can we trust the canonization of the ROMAN Catholic Church when the Romans were the enemies of the Hebrews and early Christians? Why were they dead set on killing the Cathars as heretics and witches? Are we to believe what they say about them when the church has a vile history? I'm asking all this honestly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85955522 ![]() 11/19/2023 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom it's important to realize Allegro joined the dead sea scroll project with an agenda. by the time he was involved he had already fallen away from faith and was dead set (no pun intended) on coming up with a more esoteric understanding of scripture that conveniently combined social direction and religion. he was reading his philosophy into scripture not allowing scripture to direct his philosophy. Kipp Davis, PhD is the foremost North America scholar of the Dead Sea Scrolls. He worked for 25 years both in the Levant as well as in Europe and has been creditors with discovering many forgeries. Dr. Davis’s research focuses on the transmission and interpretation of scripture in Second Temple Judaism and the issue of manuscript provenance and authentication of fragments in private collections. His publications in these areas include the monograph The Cave 4 Apocryphon of Jeremiah and the Qumran Jeremianic Traditions (Brill, 2014) and the co-edited volume Gleanings from the Caves: Dead Sea Scrolls Artefacts from the Schøyen Collection (Bloomsbury, 2016). His most recent work combines forensic approaches and scribal studies to develop innovative tools for detecting manuscript forgeries. After 25 years, Dr Davis LEFT CHRISTIANITY. He was raised a Christian and once he was able to compile the entirety of the proof for Jesus he then knew it was a fraud. Go ahead and look him up. His testimony is on YouTube still. I will - thanks for the suggestion as I know God is real and research doesn't frighten me. I am particularly interested in scholars who take a mid temple or second temple cultural understanding of biblical interpretation. I will agree this approach is VERY disturbing to the modern western Christian. That said, this approach illuminates scripture and the supernatural war. It does not usuallt take one away from the faith so I'm interested in why Davis would approach it that way. How can you say it doesn't take one away from the faith? I've been a lifelong Christian and I've just recently started doing a history deep dive into scholarly aspects of the history around the times of Jesus. If you take away the virgin birth, the resurrection and the divinity of Christ, what is left of the faith? Hebrew men, especially rabbis, of that age and time would have been obligated to marry and have children yet we are taught that Jesus never did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84433327 ![]() 11/19/2023 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86501396 One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC. To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored. Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84349199 ![]() 11/19/2023 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom Dead sea scrolls predate Jesus by hundreds of years. There really is no connection between the 2. As for Jesus, there is more written evidence of him than any other religious founder. To say it's all fake requires proof that just doesn't exist. Jesus was a real historical figure well documented in his time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85919974 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom The predate Jesus and have absolutely nothing to do with him. Most likely texts hidden by the Essenes since they lived by the shores of the Dead Sea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85904847 There was no Nazareth during the time of Jesus. It would only be correct to call him Jesus of Nazarene which was an offshoot of the Essenes. [link to essene.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85950740 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom The mushroom was used to communicate with the gods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81448642 He’s not the only one who believed Jesus was a spirit and never existed in the flesh. I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None. WHY WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO YOUR OWN IMPERFECTION YOU CAN ONLY ESCAPE THAT IMPERFECTION BY ACCEPTING THE ABSOLUTE PERFECTION OF JESUS CHRIST |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85950740 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom Since the Bible we know today comes from there, what scripture do you read? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON WHO HAS TWISTED AND DISTORTED WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS INTO THE WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM PROOF WHY HAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS GREAT WEALTH ALL FOR THEMSELVES THE FATHER IN HEAVEN SAYS FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK FOR IT IS EASIER FOR A RICH MAN TO GO THROUGH AN EYE OF THE NEDDLE THAT TO ENTER INTO HEAVEN THE WHORE OF BABYLON WILL CRY AND WEEP WHEN ALL THE MONEY CAN NOT BUY OR SELL IN THE DAY OF THE LORD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OWNED BY THE SATANIC ROTTENCHILDS |
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User ID: 84268426 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom The mushroom was used to communicate with the gods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81448642 He’s not the only one who believed Jesus was a spirit and never existed in the flesh. I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None. Why you're wrong: Thread: Math of Salvation ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85956665 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom Since the Bible we know today comes from there, what scripture do you read? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON WHO HAS TWISTED AND DISTORTED WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS INTO THE WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM PROOF WHY HAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS GREAT WEALTH ALL FOR THEMSELVES THE FATHER IN HEAVEN SAYS FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK FOR IT IS EASIER FOR A RICH MAN TO GO THROUGH AN EYE OF THE NEDDLE THAT TO ENTER INTO HEAVEN THE WHORE OF BABYLON WILL CRY AND WEEP WHEN ALL THE MONEY CAN NOT BUY OR SELL IN THE DAY OF THE LORD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OWNED BY THE SATANIC ROTTENCHILDS Ok, so what scriptures do you read? |
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User ID: 86209915 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom Soma the divine mushroom of immortality. I prepared the amanitas i found once the way it says in this book^^^^. The preparation represents the death and resurrection of jesus. It was the most traumatic experience of my life, but i did see the birth and death of the universe after dying a hundred times over and over myself, and jesus' silhouette was overtowering all things at the end of time having the last laugh, a big hearty belly laugh like santa. Last Edited by KnowKnot on 11/19/2023 01:43 PM What's going on, and why isn't it coming off? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85950740 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom Since the Bible we know today comes from there, what scripture do you read? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON WHO HAS TWISTED AND DISTORTED WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS INTO THE WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM PROOF WHY HAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS GREAT WEALTH ALL FOR THEMSELVES THE FATHER IN HEAVEN SAYS FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK FOR IT IS EASIER FOR A RICH MAN TO GO THROUGH AN EYE OF THE NEDDLE THAT TO ENTER INTO HEAVEN THE WHORE OF BABYLON WILL CRY AND WEEP WHEN ALL THE MONEY CAN NOT BUY OR SELL IN THE DAY OF THE LORD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OWNED BY THE SATANIC ROTTENCHILDS Ok, so what scriptures do you read? THE BIBLE THAT IS THE WORD THAT IS THE TRUTH THAT IS JESUS CHRIST ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING THEREFORE THE BIBLE IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT IMPERFECT MEN TRYING TO PUT THEIR IMPERFECT SPIN ON ABSOLUTE PERFECTION OF THE BIBLE IS THE PROBLEM ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU JUST HEARD TRUST NO MAN INSTEAD TRUST IN THE FATHER IN HEAVEN AND NO ONE COMES BEFORE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN BUT THROUGH THE SON JESUS CHRIST |
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User ID: 86209915 ![]() 11/19/2023 01:52 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85919974 Since the Bible we know today comes from there, what scripture do you read? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON WHO HAS TWISTED AND DISTORTED WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS INTO THE WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM PROOF WHY HAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS GREAT WEALTH ALL FOR THEMSELVES THE FATHER IN HEAVEN SAYS FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK FOR IT IS EASIER FOR A RICH MAN TO GO THROUGH AN EYE OF THE NEDDLE THAT TO ENTER INTO HEAVEN THE WHORE OF BABYLON WILL CRY AND WEEP WHEN ALL THE MONEY CAN NOT BUY OR SELL IN THE DAY OF THE LORD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OWNED BY THE SATANIC ROTTENCHILDS Ok, so what scriptures do you read? THE BIBLE THAT IS THE WORD THAT IS THE TRUTH THAT IS JESUS CHRIST ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING THEREFORE THE BIBLE IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT IMPERFECT MEN TRYING TO PUT THEIR IMPERFECT SPIN ON ABSOLUTE PERFECTION OF THE BIBLE IS THE PROBLEM ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU JUST HEARD TRUST NO MAN INSTEAD TRUST IN THE FATHER IN HEAVEN AND NO ONE COMES BEFORE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN BUT THROUGH THE SON JESUS CHRIST Worshipping the bible more than the actual teachings of christ is pretty obviously ridiculous and idolatrous, don't you think? What's going on, and why isn't it coming off? |
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