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Anonymous Coward User ID: 436713 Australia 06/11/2008 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH The number is 666, The symbol is the serpent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449536Hollywood has intentionally made movie upon movie telling us its A MAN, so that we wont wake up to the truth and point fingers. Its Not a man. When the bible mentions its the number of man it means mankind or humanity, a part of humanity that hates Jesus and his message and wants hin dead, dead and buried. They dont want christmas decorations, they dont want crosses in public places , they dont want any sign of him. Sure there might be a person that is the epitome of evil, there has been in the past and probably will be again. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS. Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ. there number is 666 and their symbol the serpent. is it friggin clear yet? Wake up everyone, its time to get things straight once and for all. We have been lied to, the ptb that are part of antichrist have kept us in an induced slumber, they have used their movie making machine to further make us believe in lies and not see the truth. Wake up. Antichrist IS NOT A MAN, Antichrist is more than one, it is a group of people their number is 666 their symbol the serpent. wake up to the bs we are being indoctrinated daily. And plenty of the OT is BS too and the so called God there is Not God but someone quite more sinister. You want to know the truth? This IS THE TRUTH. If you trult knew what the serpent was.. you would implode. Get it straight!... God knows everything. have some faith. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 449536 Spain 06/11/2008 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH The number is 666, The symbol is the serpent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436713Hollywood has intentionally made movie upon movie telling us its A MAN, so that we wont wake up to the truth and point fingers. Its Not a man. When the bible mentions its the number of man it means mankind or humanity, a part of humanity that hates Jesus and his message and wants hin dead, dead and buried. They dont want christmas decorations, they dont want crosses in public places , they dont want any sign of him. Sure there might be a person that is the epitome of evil, there has been in the past and probably will be again. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS. Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ. there number is 666 and their symbol the serpent. is it friggin clear yet? Wake up everyone, its time to get things straight once and for all. We have been lied to, the ptb that are part of antichrist have kept us in an induced slumber, they have used their movie making machine to further make us believe in lies and not see the truth. Wake up. Antichrist IS NOT A MAN, Antichrist is more than one, it is a group of people their number is 666 their symbol the serpent. wake up to the bs we are being indoctrinated daily. And plenty of the OT is BS too and the so called God there is Not God but someone quite more sinister. You want to know the truth? This IS THE TRUTH. If you trult knew what the serpent was.. you would implode. Get it straight!... God knows everything. have some faith. Trust me on this. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 449536 Spain 06/11/2008 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH tptb serve anti christ, they serve because they derive their power from anti christ reality at the moment is under the domain of those that are anti christ they are struggling to keep it so because they feel in their bones and know because they have read the apocalypse that their time is coming to an end are you understanding here? or am I being unclear |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 449536 Spain 06/11/2008 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH You dont believe me do you You think Satan is going to send One Son to lead us all astray? he has many who serve him, they are legion. They have been serving him since the beginning. Their plan was to destroy all that is holy in us as Gods children. Their plan was to enslave us. They hate Jesus He told us look I ll show you, I will open your eyes. Look at what I will do for you to show you evil. Through my sacrifice and through my words I will show you evil and truth.I will teach you so you know for the coming times of your struggle through the matrix towards the light But then came the lies. Like the best msm bullshit the bible was whitewashed and his message changed and the God of the Old Testament was made into the God of Jesus and evil became good and cursed became chosen ,Anti christ was made into one single man known by the number 666 and the apocalypse was truned into world destruction for everyone to fear. It is all lies. Made to keep us asleep and slaves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58109 United States 06/11/2008 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH CGA ACT AGA TAA CCC TTA TAG AAA TAT ACA CGC TTG TGA AAC ATA ATC CGG CTG CAA CGT TTA ACACTC CTA ATT AGG ACA TAA CTC TTG ACA CTT ACT TAG AGA ACT CTC CGC TCA TAG GAG ATA ATTTAC TAA AGA TGA CGG TTT CTT TTG ACT CGA AGC ATT TAC CGC CCC TAG ATCA (and) GAT TAA AAA CTC ACT TAG AGC ATT AGT GGG CTT ACA TAA CGG GAA ATC [link to www.indiana.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 431716 United States 06/11/2008 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH In the new testament there are different words for man in Greek. Some are tis, hekastos, aner, arren. Aner and arren refer to a person that is male. The others are more to the meaning of people or something. The Greek word that is used in reference to the number of a man in revelation is anthropos. Anthropos: human being, person; humankind, people; man, husband; used of human beings in contrast to animls or diety. so yes so far OP u can be right since it can mean man in a plural sense...but it can also mean a single person. We cant just go by the word to pinpoint which one it means so we have to look at the context in which it was put. The theme of section of the bible where this is found is obviously THE TWO BEASTS. So what do the beasts stand for..its obviously not talking about animals. In every instance when a Prophet of the bible is interpreting "beast" in a dream or a vision it represents a kingdom, group of people or political power. example: Daniel 7:17 "These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth." goes on to go into detail what one of the kings represents. Daniel 7:23 "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth." so we can safely surmise that a beast/king means kingdom. In the instances in Daniel it was refering to medio-persia, greece, babylon and Rome. So basically a beast means political power because these beasts are beasts that have power during their alloted times. so lets take the final part of revelation 13 place the meaning of the word beast in bold. Ill put #1 for first beast and #2 when referring to second beast And I beheld another "political power #2" coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first "political power" before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first "political power #1", whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the "political power #1"; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the "polical power #2", which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the "politacal power #1", that the image of the "political power #1" should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the "political power #1" should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the "polical power #1", or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the "political power #1": for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. so we see here the number 666 is the number a man (singular) that is given to "political power #1" which of course consists of many people. so its saying its taking a name of a person and givin that name of the person to that political organization. its like saying, " theres is a business here and i want to name this business after a man by the name of ______ (you fill in the blank). my point is the number is given to the BEAST not to a man. it is a number of one man that is given to the beast. SO our focus is to identify this political power not a single person. obviously any person that aligns themselves with this beast or plays a major part of this power is an antichrist. i understand that many people want to know the person that will run this political power and by definition given in the bible he can be called an antichrist but the bible doesnt say much about him. it does say a lot though about the political power/government this leader will be in charge of and our focus should be identifiying this power that will be in place during the endtime....not to change what will happen but to prepare spiritually and warn others so we and others can be saved. Any guesses on identifying these political powers? I would like to know what you guys think as a whole revelation chapter 13 means. It would be cool if we can all together that is interested in this throw out ideas in a respectful manner and try to figure it out together. I'm open to ideas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 431716 United States 06/11/2008 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the "polical power #2. correction on the above i meant to say "political power #1" should read: saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the "polical power #1. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 436713 Australia 06/11/2008 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH CGA ACT AGA TAA CCC TTA TAG AAA TAT ACA CGC TTG TGA AAC ATA ATC CGG CTG CAA CGT TTA ACACTC CTA ATT AGG ACA TAA CTC TTG ACA CTT ACT TAG AGA ACT CTC CGC TCA TAG GAG ATA ATTTAC TAA AGA TGA CGG TTT CTT TTG ACT CGA AGC ATT TAC CGC CCC TAG ATCA Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58109(and) GAT TAA AAA CTC ACT TAG AGC ATT AGT GGG CTT ACA TAA CGG GAA ATC [link to www.indiana.edu] Thats a damn good point right there! Live in fear or die in love. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 447371 Malaysia 06/11/2008 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH The number is 666, The symbol is the serpent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449536Hollywood has intentionally made movie upon movie telling us its A MAN, so that we wont wake up to the truth and point fingers. Its Not a man. When the bible mentions its the number of man it means mankind or humanity, a part of humanity that hates Jesus and his message and wants hin dead, dead and buried. They dont want christmas decorations, they dont want crosses in public places , they dont want any sign of him. Sure there might be a person that is the epitome of evil, there has been in the past and probably will be again. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS. Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ. there number is 666 and their symbol the serpent. is it friggin clear yet? Wake up everyone, its time to get things straight once and for all. We have been lied to, the ptb that are part of antichrist have kept us in an induced slumber, they have used their movie making machine to further make us believe in lies and not see the truth. Wake up. Antichrist IS NOT A MAN, Antichrist is more than one, it is a group of people their number is 666 their symbol the serpent. wake up to the bs we are being indoctrinated daily. And plenty of the OT is BS too and the so called God there is Not God but someone quite more sinister. You want to know the truth? This IS THE TRUTH. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to hashemsfilms.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 405334 United States 06/11/2008 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Actually I've grown tired of telling people here what the antichrist is and is not. You are correct in so much that it is not a single man as protrayed by church and catholics and christians. The antichrist is you in the simplest of terms. It is the condition in you that rejects christ and the work he did on your potential behalf. The cold hard truth is that most of what the church has taught and teaches is utter garbage and falls apart in light of scripture. Church teaches that man goes to heaven, the bible disagrees. Church teaches that satan is an outside force to overcome, the bible disagrees. Satan is an inside force as well and if you look in the wrong place to find it you loose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 398354 United States 06/11/2008 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH So do you now see that the denial of the Christ within every human being, the denial that every human being has the potential to put on the mind of Christ, can come from only one place, namely the consciousness of anti-christ? After all, what is anti-christ but the denial of Christ? So if you deny the Presence of Christ within yourself, or within others, you have been blinded by the consciousness of anti-christ. There is no compromise; you either accept my Presence within you or you reject it. You either serve the false master of anti-christ, the consciousness of anti-christ, or you serve the true Master of your Christ self. And if you deny my Presence within you, you cannot be one of my true followers, and thus you should not call yourself a Christian. Likewise, unless you find my Spirit within you, you cannot possibly understand my teachings or interpret the scriptures. And this explains why so many groups of Christians are fighting over this or that interpretation of scripture. They are fighting because they are denying the Presence of Christ within themselves. Thus, they are left to interpret the scriptures with the carnal mind instead of going within to get the true interpretation directly through my Living Word. There will never be peace among Christians until they rise above the consciousness of anti-christ and find true unity through the inner Christ. And if there be no peace among Christians, how can there be peace on Earth? [link to www.askrealjesus.com] |
servant User ID: 435072 United States 06/11/2008 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH I have and I will share with you, what I do know is correct. Below.. The Antichrist's Vol 9, came out, and then The Comet Holms 17p did that amazing display, 7 times bigger than the SUN. Matthew 24 and this: 2 Thessalonians 2 3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? Notice that word "and".( we will ALL see the rise of the Anti-Christ to power. ) If you can read, and do not want to be decieved, read this entire PDF, and do it with BIBLE, to check what is stated! The Meat ! read it it all ! [link to www.scripturesforamerica.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 449967 Australia 06/11/2008 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH The number is 666, The symbol is the serpent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449536Hollywood has intentionally made movie upon movie telling us its A MAN, so that we wont wake up to the truth and point fingers. Its Not a man. When the bible mentions its the number of man it means mankind or humanity, a part of humanity that hates Jesus and his message and wants hin dead, dead and buried. They dont want christmas decorations, they dont want crosses in public places , they dont want any sign of him. Sure there might be a person that is the epitome of evil, there has been in the past and probably will be again. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS. Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ. there number is 666 and their symbol the serpent. is it friggin clear yet? Wake up everyone, its time to get things straight once and for all. We have been lied to, the ptb that are part of antichrist have kept us in an induced slumber, they have used their movie making machine to further make us believe in lies and not see the truth. Wake up. Antichrist IS NOT A MAN, Antichrist is more than one, it is a group of people their number is 666 their symbol the serpent. wake up to the bs we are being indoctrinated daily. And plenty of the OT is BS too and the so called God there is Not God but someone quite more sinister. You want to know the truth? This IS THE TRUTH. Not really. The Anti-Christ will deceive all Christians except for the elect (thanks to God). Ok, now the AC is against Christ, yes, but technically a Christian is not a Christian if they too are against Christ. So ask yourself how a Christian can follow and be deceived by the AC while remaining a Christian. Look deep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 449967 Australia 06/11/2008 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Church teaches that man goes to heaven, the bible disagrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 405334Church teaches that satan is an outside force to overcome, the bible disagrees. Satan is an inside force as well and if you look in the wrong place to find it you loose. Got passages to support any of that? (genuine interest) |
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User ID: 273434 United States 06/11/2008 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH The number is 666, The symbol is the serpent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449967Hollywood has intentionally made movie upon movie telling us its A MAN, so that we wont wake up to the truth and point fingers. Its Not a man. When the bible mentions its the number of man it means mankind or humanity, a part of humanity that hates Jesus and his message and wants hin dead, dead and buried. They dont want christmas decorations, they dont want crosses in public places , they dont want any sign of him. Sure there might be a person that is the epitome of evil, there has been in the past and probably will be again. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS. Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ. there number is 666 and their symbol the serpent. is it friggin clear yet? Wake up everyone, its time to get things straight once and for all. We have been lied to, the ptb that are part of antichrist have kept us in an induced slumber, they have used their movie making machine to further make us believe in lies and not see the truth. Wake up. Antichrist IS NOT A MAN, Antichrist is more than one, it is a group of people their number is 666 their symbol the serpent. wake up to the bs we are being indoctrinated daily. And plenty of the OT is BS too and the so called God there is Not God but someone quite more sinister. You want to know the truth? This IS THE TRUTH. Not really. The Anti-Christ will deceive all Christians except for the elect (thanks to God). Ok, now the AC is against Christ, yes, but technically a Christian is not a Christian if they too are against Christ. So ask yourself how a Christian can follow and be deceived by the AC while remaining a Christian. Look deep. Many are already deceived and do not know it. Not one of you point out Daniel 9:27 or Mark 13:14. (it) in Mark 13:14 by many scholars should be (he). There are four beast systems. One of you posted the political beast system, and you are correct. Four beast systems are "political,economical, educational, and the final beast system RELIGION". Which one of these have your soul? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 268079 United States 06/11/2008 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Try this on for size [link to www.beholdthebeast.com] [link to www.shoebat.com] [link to www.beholdthebeast.com] The Nation of Islam is the 666 beast |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 450032 India 06/11/2008 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH OP You are right about one thing - THE 'antichrist' is not a man. But though you may be right about this: "Anti Christ means exactly that, people who are against Christ" these people you speak of are NOT THE ANTCHRST. You see, there are little antichrists but there is also the main honcho, the one that is marked with 666. 666 6th vial 6th seal 6th trump Read about him in Revelation. Am I right Little Star? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 450097 Spain 06/11/2008 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH In the new testament there are different words for man in Greek. Some are tis, hekastos, aner, arren. Aner and arren refer to a person that is male. The others are more to the meaning of people or something. The Greek word that is used in reference to the number of a man in revelation is anthropos. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 431716Anthropos: human being, person; humankind, people; man, husband; used of human beings in contrast to animls or diety. so yes so far OP u can be right since it can mean man in a plural sense...but it can also mean a single person. We cant just go by the word to pinpoint which one it means so we have to look at the context in which it was put. The theme of section of the bible where this is found is obviously THE TWO BEASTS. So what do the beasts stand for..its obviously not talking about animals. In every instance when a Prophet of the bible is interpreting "beast" in a dream or a vision it represents a kingdom, group of people or political power. example: Daniel 7:17 "These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth." goes on to go into detail what one of the kings represents. Daniel 7:23 "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth." so we can safely surmise that a beast/king means kingdom. In the instances in Daniel it was refering to medio-persia, greece, babylon and Rome. So basically a beast means political power because these beasts are beasts that have power during their alloted times. so lets take the final part of revelation 13 place the meaning of the word beast in bold. Ill put #1 for first beast and #2 when referring to second beast And I beheld another "political power #2" coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first "political power" before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first "political power #1", whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the "political power #1"; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the "polical power #2", which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the "politacal power #1", that the image of the "political power #1" should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the "political power #1" should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the "polical power #1", or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the "political power #1": for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. so we see here the number 666 is the number a man (singular) that is given to "political power #1" which of course consists of many people. so its saying its taking a name of a person and givin that name of the person to that political organization. its like saying, " theres is a business here and i want to name this business after a man by the name of ______ (you fill in the blank). my point is the number is given to the BEAST not to a man. it is a number of one man that is given to the beast. SO our focus is to identify this political power not a single person. obviously any person that aligns themselves with this beast or plays a major part of this power is an antichrist. i understand that many people want to know the person that will run this political power and by definition given in the bible he can be called an antichrist but the bible doesnt say much about him. it does say a lot though about the political power/government this leader will be in charge of and our focus should be identifiying this power that will be in place during the endtime....not to change what will happen but to prepare spiritually and warn others so we and others can be saved. Any guesses on identifying these political powers? I would like to know what you guys think as a whole revelation chapter 13 means. It would be cool if we can all together that is interested in this throw out ideas in a respectful manner and try to figure it out together. I'm open to ideas. What if its not a name but a symbol that contains the 666 that in turn represents a political movement political or otherwise, a people which is anti christ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 449967 Australia 06/11/2008 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Many are already deceived and do not know it. Quoting: Little StarNot one of you point out Daniel 9:27 or Mark 13:14. (it) in Mark 13:14 by many scholars should be (he). There are four beast systems. One of you posted the political beast system, and you are correct. Four beast systems are "political,economical, educational, and the final beast system RELIGION". Which one of these have your soul? Nice Mark 13:14 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:" I enjoyed that but don't understand changing 'it' to 'he'. Could you explain that a little more? Also, would I be right in assuming, if the abomination of desolation to be the four beast systems you mentioned (and they well could be), and they're standing where they shouldn't, that the place they're standing is in place of or above Christ? Which may mean there's nothing inherently wrong in those systems in of themselves, but their placing in our lives? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 450120 Spain 06/11/2008 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Many are already deceived and do not know it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449967Not one of you point out Daniel 9:27 or Mark 13:14. (it) in Mark 13:14 by many scholars should be (he). There are four beast systems. One of you posted the political beast system, and you are correct. Four beast systems are "political,economical, educational, and the final beast system RELIGION". Which one of these have your soul? Nice Mark 13:14 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:" I enjoyed that but don't understand changing 'it' to 'he'. Could you explain that a little more? Also, would I be right in assuming, if the abomination of desolation to be the four beast systems you mentioned (and they well could be), and they're standing where they shouldn't, that the place they're standing is in place of or above Christ? Which may mean there's nothing inherently wrong in those systems in of themselves, but their placing in our lives? The abomination of desolation standing where It ought not to in the holy place. The abomination is something abominable that produces desolation. It is an act or acts of some people in a holy place of holy land maybe. Its not a person. |
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User ID: 273434 United States 06/11/2008 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: THE ANTICHRIST IS NOT A MAN, ITS MAN AKA HUMANITY A PART OF HUMANITY THAT IS ANTI CHRIST, AGAINST HIS TECAHINGS, AGAINST HIM, SUMPLY PUT THAT HATES TH Many are already deceived and do not know it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449967Not one of you point out Daniel 9:27 or Mark 13:14. (it) in Mark 13:14 by many scholars should be (he). There are four beast systems. One of you posted the political beast system, and you are correct. Four beast systems are "political,economical, educational, and the final beast system RELIGION". Which one of these have your soul? Nice Mark 13:14 "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:" I enjoyed that but don't understand changing 'it' to 'he'. Could you explain that a little more? Also, would I be right in assuming, if the abomination of desolation to be the four beast systems you mentioned (and they well could be), and they're standing where they shouldn't, that the place they're standing is in place of or above Christ? Which may mean there's nothing inherently wrong in those systems in of themselves, but their placing in our lives? I jump on threads like this because of the abomination of desolation words. Most of the time I try to stay away from the threads with 666. 666 is far greater than what I have ever seen posted on glp. Yes, part of the answer to 666 is 6th seal 6th trump 6th vile Plus all the four beast systems are controlled by the "money" and when you understand that then you begin to see the beast systems if full effect. Look on glp alone and see the words of each postings of threads. See how many fit one of the four beast systems, then your eyes will see more. Your question: "I enjoyed that but don't understand changing 'it' to 'he'. Could you explain that a little more?" Yes, many of the very good scholars that I have studied have come to the conclusion that "it" should be "he". There is only one entity that has been "JUDGED" and that is the "son of perdition". Both the abomination of desolation and son of perdition is the same old character. There are many here on glp presenting things about all kinds of subjects. One of the major threads is the subject of 666. Many try to put that number into a controlled box. The depth if it is far greater than you know. I know of more who are not Christians that have a better handle on the subject than most Christians. I would say more, but there is too much to present on a forum like glp. |
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