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Vitamin A Toxicity

 
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Is this real? Has anyone tried to do a low vitamin A diet?
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Vitamin A is a fat soluable vitamin, and yes, if you take too much, it will become toxic. Beta carotene is a water soluable form of vitamin A.

You do not want to do a low vitamin A diet, unless you relish the thought of rickets.

If you have taken an amount that has built toxic, you probably want to see a doctor, and decide the best options for moving forward.
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Vitamin A is a fat soluable vitamin, and yes, if you take too much, it will become toxic. Beta carotene is a water soluable form of vitamin A.

You do not want to do a low vitamin A diet, unless you relish the thought of rickets.

If you have taken an amount that has built toxic, you probably want to see a doctor, and decide the best options for moving forward.
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People actually have been doing a low A diet for years, and some are reporting it's the best they ever felt and the only thing that solved their health issues. The inspiration is a book by a Canadian engineer named Grant Genereux called Extinguishing the Fires of Hell.

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Vitamin A is a fat soluable vitamin, and yes, if you take too much, it will become toxic. Beta carotene is a water soluable form of vitamin A.

You do not want to do a low vitamin A diet, unless you relish the thought of rickets.

If you have taken an amount that has built toxic, you probably want to see a doctor, and decide the best options for moving forward.
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People actually have been doing a low A diet for years, and some are reporting it's the best they ever felt and the only thing that solved their health issues. The inspiration is a book by a Canadian engineer named Grant Genereux called Extinguishing the Fires of Hell.

[link to ggenereux.blog (secure)]
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If it works for them.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
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This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
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This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
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This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
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I went off all animal foods but still eat the rainbow so that's part of it. Do not really like the A detox diet and now it looks like potatoes are out too. Guess I could try living on oatmeal for a few weeks or months, if I had to.
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just don't eat a polar bears liver and you will be fine.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85942299

It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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I'm going to agree with LJS on this one. Check with your doctor before you go shifting your diet like this.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85942299

It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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...However, long-term excessive intake of beta-carotene supplements can lead to carotenemia, a harmless and reversible cosmetic condition in which the skin turns yellowish-orange
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Vitamin D3 protects against the toxicity of vitamin A and vice versa.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85942299

It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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I have chronic eczema which is a sign of vitamin A toxicity
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Vitamin A is a fat soluable vitamin, and yes, if you take too much, it will become toxic. Beta carotene is a water soluable form of vitamin A.

You do not want to do a low vitamin A diet, unless you relish the thought of rickets.

If you have taken an amount that has built toxic, you probably want to see a doctor, and decide the best options for moving forward.
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Just drink carrot juice already
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In the video Grant mentions glucoronidation as a possible solution to vitamin A detox, to go along with his low A diet.
[link to health.selfdecode.com (secure)]

He also mentions Anthony Mawson who is a research professor at the University of Mississippi in Jackson, MS. He has writtten a lot of papers on vitamin A.
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I will likely go on a lower A diet, but will remain planr based. This is what I plan to eat:

Apples
Bananas
Oats
Peanut butter
Basil
Tofu
Almond butter
Bread
Lentils
Other beans
Tea
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These herbs and supplements increased glucuronidase activity in animal studies:
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Soy [22]
Green tea [23, 24]
Dandelion [25]
Rooibos tea [26]
Honeybush tea [26]
Coffee [27]
Rosemary (particularly UGT1A6) [28]
Ellagic acid (found in walnuts, pecans, berries, grapes, and pomegranate) [29]
Ferulic acid (found in coffee and whole grains) [29]
Quercetin (found in many fruits and veggies, capers, onions, berries, and tea) [29]
Tannic acid [29]
Coumarin (found naturally in many plants like tonka bean, cassia cinnamon, and vanilla grass) [29]
Fumaric acid [29]
Curcumin (turmeric, found in curry powder) [29]
Flavone [29]
Astaxanthin and canthaxanthin (carotenoids) [30]
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Low vitamin A diet list:
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070

You have to ingest extreme amounts of Vitamin A to get to the toxic level.

In the Arctic you can famously get vit A poisoning from eating liver of seals and maybe polar bears, which store huge amounts of vit A.

But otherwise personally I believe the chance you'll get vit A. poisoning is very low.

Do your research.
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This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070


It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85942299

It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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I have chronic eczema which is a sign of vitamin A toxicity
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It can have other causes.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070

You have to ingest extreme amounts of Vitamin A to get to the toxic level.

In the Arctic you can famously get vit A poisoning from eating liver of seals and maybe polar bears, which store huge amounts of vit A.

But otherwise personally I believe the chance you'll get vit A. poisoning is very low.

Do your research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83596547



I did. I took Accutane twice and also supplemented vitamin A.

I believe Grant got vitamin A toxicity from drinking a glass of milk every day. He had a kidney disease and was on the verge of death.
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It's a whole thing. Some people can't convert beta carotene to vitamin a and it builds up its own toxicity. Ever seen a vegan on a carrot juice binge? I have. Their skin is orange.

And people are eating a lot of liver these days. Liver is very high in vitamin a.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85942299

It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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I have chronic eczema which is a sign of vitamin A toxicity
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It can have other causes.
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Like what?

Vitamin A toxicity for the win.
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It is "largely impossible" for provitamin carotenoids, such as beta-carotene, to cause toxicity, as their conversion to retinol is highly regulated. No vitamin A toxicity has ever been reported from ingestion of excessive amounts.
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I have chronic eczema which is a sign of vitamin A toxicity
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It can have other causes.
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Like what?

Vitamin A toxicity for the win.
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I don't reason with stupidity.
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It's nearly impossible to have vitamin A toxicity.

You have to be purposely trying to get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73693387


This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070

You have to ingest extreme amounts of Vitamin A to get to the toxic level.

In the Arctic you can famously get vit A poisoning from eating liver of seals and maybe polar bears, which store huge amounts of vit A.

But otherwise personally I believe the chance you'll get vit A. poisoning is very low.

Do your research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83596547



I did. I took Accutane twice and also supplemented vitamin A.

I believe Grant got vitamin A toxicity from drinking a glass of milk every day. He had a kidney disease and was on the verge of death.
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My God...

You can't get vit A poisoning from drinking milk.

Maybe if you'd drink 20 l every day, and then you would die from something else before you would from vit A poisoning.
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This theory questions this idea, and suggests that we're all somewhat vitamin A toxic from consuming fortified foods like milk. People actually are taking vitamin A supplements and smearing retinol creams and retinoids on their skin to prevent wrinkles. It's totally possible that many actually do have vitamin A toxicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86791070

You have to ingest extreme amounts of Vitamin A to get to the toxic level.

In the Arctic you can famously get vit A poisoning from eating liver of seals and maybe polar bears, which store huge amounts of vit A.

But otherwise personally I believe the chance you'll get vit A. poisoning is very low.

Do your research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83596547



I did. I took Accutane twice and also supplemented vitamin A.

I believe Grant got vitamin A toxicity from drinking a glass of milk every day. He had a kidney disease and was on the verge of death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86797465

My God...

You can't get vit A poisoning from drinking milk.

Maybe if you'd drink 20 l every day, and then you would die from something else before you would from vit A poisoning.
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Grant did. He says it caused his eczema which went away om a vitamin A free diet.
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I have chronic eczema which is a sign of vitamin A toxicity
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It can have other causes.
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Like what?

Vitamin A toxicity for the win.
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I don't reason with stupidity.
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Admit that it's a brilliant idea.
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Plant based dads Joey says he could not lose weight eating plant based for like 5-10 years. He blames it on calories and eating a Taco Bell burrito on the weekend because of the added oil. I believe he and his partner have even done the Starch Solution mini diets and they still couldn't lose weight.

Could he have vitamin A toxicity??

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