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I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize

 
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Advanced maths huh?

Then watch these 5 video's,starting with this one,and you will understand.


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Fallacy, basing this on religious texts... religion is not a representation of a creator... it is a representation of mans control over others.
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Oh ok, you are obviously an idiot. Nevermind
"The best offence is a good offence"
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Explain illogical math.
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Axioms for a start
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No, but you can start again.
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Yes, and you can get lost...
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Logic states that if this (axiom), then that.

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I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Axioms for a start
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No, but you can start again.
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Logic states that if this (axiom), then that.
Yes, and you can get lost...
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Bye -Bye
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No, but you can start again.
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Logic states that if this (axiom), then that.
Yes, and you can get lost...
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Bye -Bye
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Logic states that if this (axiom), then that.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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You think like a human. Limited. Almost apelike. God does not.

God created everything and gave us free choice. Now let us see what we choose to do...

If God intervened he would take away free choice. God loves and gives full freedom to be stupid.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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God would not help you fight your brothers and sisters. Its basically a family feud on earth. To call other human race not human. Your basically falling for Satan's trap. The horned devil. Exactly what the Nazis are doing. People who side by race only instead of knowledge and awareness are basically betraying god's creation anyways.
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The idea that everything suddenly appears from nothing is not any more logical than that everything was created by God.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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God finished creating in Genesis and said it was “good,” not “perfect.”

The point of this life is to give God’s children the ability to act on their free will so that they can learn to be like Him. The point of Jesus’ infinite sacrifice for sin is to make it so that we are not condemned when we exercise our free will in ways contrary to God’s will, something we all do. To come to Jesus is to allow His perfect work to stand between you and the justice you deserve. He saves so that we can become like Him and His Father.

God didn’t build this world and then move on. He built this world to raise us to be like Him, the measure of the fullness of the stature of Christ. And He cares deeply about the outcome and will actively intervene in the lives of those who are humble enough to hear Him and who are making the effort to be like Him. Trying to be like Him is how we come to know Him, which is the definition of eternal life according to Jesus in John 17:3.

God bless
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You are a deist. Look it up.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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God finished creating in Genesis and said it was “good,” not “perfect.”

The point of this life is to give God’s children the ability to act on their free will so that they can learn to be like Him. The point of Jesus’ infinite sacrifice for sin is to make it so that we are not condemned when we exercise our free will in ways contrary to God’s will, something we all do. To come to Jesus is to allow His perfect work to stand between you and the justice you deserve. He saves so that we can become like Him and His Father.

God didn’t build this world and then move on. He built this world to raise us to be like Him, the measure of the fullness of the stature of Christ. And He cares deeply about the outcome and will actively intervene in the lives of those who are humble enough to hear Him and who are making the effort to be like Him. Trying to be like Him is how we come to know Him, which is the definition of eternal life according to Jesus in John 17:3.

God bless
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Good to God is perfect for us.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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We left god, not the other way around. From that we got chronic guilt. And guilt make us manifest all kinds of bad stuff into this world, and do a lot of sutpid things all the time.

Google: the human condition solved
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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Allow me to introduce you to Oxford University mathematician and professor, John Lennox;



[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

He has many, many other talks and debates, but this is a decent intro.
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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That you have trouble accepting things came to be, perhaps they always were. So they didn’t come to be but always were in another form or maybe the same. The human attributes applied to gad is a fairly obvious indication of a man made tale. So if there isn’t a god or agent that created our cosmos, what is the explanation? The only honest answer is we don’t know. We have possible reasons but no definite ,proven one. So speculation is ripe. Your knowledge of mathematics doesn’t preclude incorrect reasoning to other fields. The laws of physics is seen everywhere we have looked so it’s assumed they are true, at least in this universe. We were made, we make things, we buy things made. So it can limit our understanding that a “maker” is required. Perhaps not.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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That you have trouble accepting things came to be, perhaps they always were. So they didn’t come to be but always were in another form or maybe the same. The human attributes applied to gad is a fairly obvious indication of a man made tale. So if there isn’t a god or agent that created our cosmos, what is the explanation? The only honest answer is we don’t know. We have possible reasons but no definite ,proven one. So speculation is ripe. Your knowledge of mathematics doesn’t preclude incorrect reasoning to other fields. The laws of physics is seen everywhere we have looked so it’s assumed they are true, at least in this universe. We were made, we make things, we buy things made. So it can limit our understanding that a “maker” is required. Perhaps not.
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Very true... I was trying not to offend the zealots on here.. lol

The idea that it has always been is a mind bender...
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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What happens to the experiment if the scientist fucks with it?
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That already happenned.
He accidentally spilt a jar of shit onto it and next thing you know...

Rapture tards came into being.

This happenned about 1830.
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If God exists he is outside of our universe. Not chilling on some planet.
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No - he/she/it is right there with you, every millisecond - I say that not as a Christian or any other religion, just as someone who has noticed it now and then.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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THERE IS NO RELIGION IN HEAVEN

THERE IS NO MATH IN HEAVEN

THERE IS NO DEATH IN HEAVEN

THERE IS NO MULTIVERSE OR CONSCIOUSNESS IN HEAVEN

BUT THERE IS IN THE WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM

WHERE PEOPLE JUST DO NOT GIVE

TWO SHITS

BUT

GOD IS LOVE

THAT

IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING
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If God exists he is outside of our universe. Not chilling on some planet.
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What some call God is multi-dimensional, quantum, and much more which we don't know about yet.

God is not a human looking male individual sitting on a royal throne somewhere in a secluded paradise far far away from here.

God being multi-dimensional means God exists everywhere and anywhere. God is in us, around us, beyond us, and in all dimensionalities that form the vast grand whole reality in which our 3d/4d reality is just a very tiny fraction of it.

God being quantum means God is in everything from the smallest of the small to the biggest of the big.

That infinite meld of multi-dimensional quantum energies are all intertwined, connected, and entangled such that human concepts of time, space, judgement, hierarchy, superiority, separatism, and favoritism do not and can not exist.

And most importantly that vast meld of energies is heavily biased in love, compassion, benevolence, and joy which are some of the highest vibration multi-dimensional quantum energies.

Then is it any surprise that all spiritually advanced human messengers here throughout the ages uniformly taught people a better way of living life that aligns with love, compassion, benevolence, and joy.

And that better way of living life will unlock a cascade of enhancements to our body and mind that will give us far more control over our body's health, our life, and our reality.

There is a Bible scripture that alludes to that: Seek first the Kingdom of God and all of God's righteousness and all things will be added to you.

The Kingdom of God within us and God's righteousness are love, compassion, benevolence, and joy.

There is only Oneness. Oneness of love, compassion, benevolence, and joy.
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Every souled being, not everybody is part of the infinite creator
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Every souled being, not everybody is part of the infinite creator
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THATS CORRECT

FOR GOD IS FINITE

THE BEGINNING AND THE END

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING

BUT

THE GOD OF THIS WORLD AKA SATANS KINGDOM

IS INFINITE

WITHOUT BEGINNING OR END

IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT

SUBJECT TO ERROR AND DEATH

SATAN WANTS ALL OF MANKIND DEAD

ONCE THAT HAPPENS

HE WILL HAVE THE EARTH ALL TO HIMSELF

WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF OUR FREEWILL

HOWEVER IF WE CLAIM OUR FREEWILL THAT IS A FREE GIFT OF THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

WHERE THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS

JESUS CHRIST

ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST

CLAIM YOUR FREEWILL

ALL VIOLATORS WILL BURN AND BE BURNT UP

WHAT IS LEFT

IS

THE NEW EARTH

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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Typical over edumucated fool. " For the fool hath said in his heart there is no God".
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Yet things continue to run smoothly
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Keep thinking about it, clarity doesn't come cheap.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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ok legit question...I'm not good at math but since you are I will ask and risk the reds and the ridicule...

the flat earth model basically says God created this realm and its flat...the non God Globe model says the earth's curvature is at a rate of 8 inches per mile squared...
[link to earthcurvature.com (secure)]

Distance Curvature
1 mile 0.00013 miles = 0.67 feet
2 miles 0.00051 miles = 2.67 feet
5 miles 0.00316 miles = 16.67 feet
10 miles 0.01263 miles = 66.69 feet
20 miles 0.05052 miles = 266.75 feet
50 miles 0.31575 miles = 1667.17 feet
100 miles 1.26296 miles = 6668.41 feet
200 miles 5.05102 miles = 26669.37 feet
500 miles 31.5336 miles = 166497.53 feet
1000 miles 125.632 miles = 663337.65 feet

Explanation:
The Earth's radius (r) is 6371 km or 3959 miles, based on numbers from Wikipedia,
which gives a circumference (c)of c = 2 * π * r = 40 030 km

We wish to find the height (h) which is the drop in curvature over the distance (d)

Using the circumference we find that 1 kilometer has the angle
360° / 40 030 km = 0.009°. The angle (a) is then a = 0.009° * distance (d)

The derived formula h = r * (1 - cos a) is accurate for any distance (d)



I think its 1 mile= 8 inches down...the 2nd mile should be another 8 inches for a total of 16 inches...and 10 miles is 80 inches...


this question is strictly about the math of the earth not about flat vs globe...so
which one is right..
the cumulative rate of 8 inches per mile or the squared rate...I think its cumulative

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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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I looked and found. This place is designed to be proven futile so we can choose what's important.

It helped when I looked up old quotes from people that seemed to never sleep, barely eat, and be opposed to pleasure. They seemed productive but I couldn't understand why they'd make big families. Seemed like they'd run out eventually and suffer.

Tesla had a lot to say about math and God b I suggest you read about what he was referring to when he claimed 3/6/9 don't exist. I heard 0 can't exist so it wasn't far fetched. He also claims to understand God just think in terms of energy and matter.

For proof think about Noah and why he bothered if it was just a voice in his head. Same for Moses, why give up on your society when you're relatively well set.
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For the last two you mention, that could come down to either just a story, or power through control, which religion is...
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The Bible is about the power to control but not the way most think. It's about the power to control oneself. Transcending your primal desires and low vibratory self (sinning)to a high vibrating, self control self(righteousness).
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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this advancement or evolution is not linear
big steps mixed with little ones over time
those big ahievements intime are like phase shifts in nature, are happening only in perfect conditions
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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How is an atom sustained? By consciousness. Whose consciousness? God's. God is aware of all things.

Also, look into "irreducible complexity", it's a simple concept, there's probably many short videos about it.
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OP watch NDEs on YouTube.





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