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User ID: 747605 United Kingdom 08/12/2009 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 751021 United States 08/18/2009 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post! These children in Oregon didn't have state register birth certificates or SSN and they were being home school. Something the evil Government doesn't like, they want you to conform and be a good slave. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747473Who needs a birth certificate? Who needs a birth certificate? Well..um...anyone who wants a social security card or a drivers licence or a passport or to file an income tax return. Unless you plan to spend your life hold up in an armed compound with a three year supply of food "just in case" having the above mentioned things required to be a normal member of society. These two POS where hinding out from paying past child support to the state of California for their first three kids.It is the only reason they were not born in hospitals. The Drown's are not in prison having babies at home or not immunizing them or not bothering to teach them BASIC life skills. Home schooling? Please! The only home schooling that went on in the Drown home was Graydon Drown forcing the "doctrines" of his make it up as you go along personal "religion". The Drowns are in prison for CHILD ABUSE. They are exactly where they belong. "Mommy" has about 20 more years to serve and "daddy" will be in prison for almost 30 more years. Hopefully by then their children will have recovered enough from the horror they endured and not have anything to do with either of them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 274818 United States 09/18/2009 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember The Drown case is still an active investigation. PLEASE call Detective Martin Bennett 503 540-8007 at the Marion County Sheriff's Office if you have witnessed any of the Drown children being abused by Robyn Drown or you have been victimized or scammed by these two religious charlatans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548043How about some heartwarming stories? YOU twist everything around that does not agree with YOUR point of view. So the only thing I am going to share with you are insults. So, you don't have even one tiny positive moment to share? No surprise there! Has it occurred to you or the other Robynites that nearly all of the information about Robyn's history with the worldwide church of god cult and other details of her past were discovered because some of you do not know when to keep your mouths shut? I am guessing at least a few stories of abuse came to the attention of the Sheriff's Dept in response to your nastiness. I want to attract attention, especially if it might help convict both Robyn and Graydon. What is your reason for posting, lack of impulse control? "Friends" like you are a defense attorney's worse nightmare. You are so very mistaken about me! I am not here to state my "point of view", that child abuse is BAD, since obviously there is no (sane)alternative to this point of view. I simply take issue with a baby slapping sociopath calling herself a victim "too" and (by extension) with people who want to pretend that 20+ years of child abuse and neglect is all her (ex)husbands fault. As for "twisting" other people's words, I could probably take LESSONS from you! Talk about projection. As far as insults, calling you a nasty, soulless, dead behind the eyes, black hearted bitch is not an insult, it's the natural response to how you have presented yourself. And again, your sophomoric attempts at insult (for example your all time favorite, nut job and even your new one, wanker) have become utterly tiresome. If this is all you have to offer the universe,please do just shut the fuck up and give some of the other "players" a turn. 30 years for child abuse seems excessive to me. Is because the children weren't register with the state? No Birth Certificate and Social Security number. Who has the children now? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 776657 United States 09/21/2009 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 30 years for child abuse seems excessive to me. Is because the children weren't register with the state? No Birth Certificate and Social Security number. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 274818Who has the children now? If you knew what these two did you would know it is only by the grace of God that none of the children died from their injuries or medical neglect. Under Oregon Law felony child abuse is punishable by 5.2 years per charge. The "parents" where found guilty on st least 10 charges and the 21 years for RD and 28 years for GD is actual a GIFT. In my view most parents do not get enough prison time for child abuse. But at least in Oregon the tied is turning. Another pair of child abusers the Kozlov's each took a plea of 12 years for abusing their seven children. Interestingly, just like the with Drown's the nuts have all come out from hiding to blog about the "injustice". I have to wonder why two "innocent" people each accepted a plea for twelve years. Don't you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 788520 United States 10/07/2009 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both offenders are in Coffee Creek Correctional Facility in Wilsonville, Oregon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 512945[link to www.oregon.gov] Look how Graydon abuses children. Can you imagine how many times there was no camera. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 789758 United States 10/08/2009 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Drown's were convicted and sentence in Jaunary 2007. Both are in prison. DHS is seeking adoptive home for the children so their trial is not pending either. Both POS are appealing, snow balls chance in hell either gets more than a review of the trial. |
GraftedPromise User ID: 752129 United States 10/08/2009 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you knew what these two did you would know it is only by the grace of God that none of the children died from their injuries or medical neglect. Under Oregon Law felony child abuse is punishable by 5.2 years per charge. The "parents" where found guilty on st least 10 charges and the 21 years for RD and 28 years for GD is actual a GIFT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776657In my view most parents do not get enough prison time for child abuse. But at least in Oregon the tied is turning. Another pair of child abusers the Kozlov's each took a plea of 12 years for abusing their seven children. Interestingly, just like the with Drown's the nuts have all come out from hiding to blog about the "injustice". I have to wonder why two "innocent" people each accepted a plea for twelve years. Don't you? . ... just wondering ... YOU were witness to what happened in the home? ... just asking ... . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789758 United States 10/08/2009 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are guilty and exactly where they belong in prison for many, many years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 566940 United States 10/10/2009 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was not the Drowns that accepted the plea The latest pair of abusive "parents" that took a plea. CAN"T YOU READ????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789758hey dumb ass...I think the previous person WAS talking about the Kozlova's where does it state in the newspaper that they accepted a plea? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789758 United States 10/11/2009 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did read they were offered a plea and accepted, but it looks like since then MORE charges have been added. The charges are felonies and carry a 5.2 year term per conviction. Either the plea was withdrawn or they changed their sorry ass child abusing minds. Perhaps these two should read this blog to see what happened to the last pair of POS child beaters who did not take the plea. There appears to be even MORE evidence in the Kozlova case that the Drown case. Lots of similarities here, especially the crazy interpitations of the "bible", the most miss quoited and miss used book in history. Good news is that 16 children are safe from criminal abuse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 169265 United States 11/23/2009 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good news is that 16 children are safe from criminal abuse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789758There was a tragic death over the weekend involving a 2 year old baby in foster care. The mother is still in jail (apparent abuse to one of her children) My concern is that these children should not have been removed in the first place. This death happened in the care of the foster family two weeks after the children had been removed. How this death happened is a mystery. No one is investigating this and I am extremely skeptical about the surrounding issue of the death. Does anyone know any additional details regarding this death? Can some one please shed some light on this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 827276 United States 11/25/2009 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My concern is that these children should not have been removed in the first place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 169265This death my note: not related to the Drown children happened in the care of the foster family two weeks after the children had been removed. All the Drown kids are thriving and well, so don't go concerning yourself. Their egg and sperm donors are in prison and will not be getting out until after the youngest is over 21. Foster care is the best thing to have ever happend to any of these kids! I don't know what death you are talking about. But FYI, as far a foster care deaths go, almost every death in Oregon's foster care system was at the hands of RELATIVE care givers!!!. This is one reason why many people don't think that a family member of a convicted child abuser is the best possible placement for any child. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 827874 United States 11/26/2009 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :hitler: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454966:hitler: :hitler: In Germany it is illegal to homeschool. Adolph wanted all the children indoctrinated in state schools-the better to control and program the young In Cali they recently started going after homeschoolers more aggressively as the school loses money for each child homeschooled Likewise, for each kid they claim is ADD/ADHD the school get extra every year so it is to the benefit of the schools to have more kids who are technically special ed In the old days, children who were 'problematic' were called behavioral disorder or LD(learning disability) Now there is no longer a behavior disordered classification ALL OF THOSE KIDS ARE CALLED EMOTIONALLY DISORDERED so they are now psychiatric issues yes, and it is getting better all the time In Mass they are sing electric devices on the students who have Autism and do not respond the way they like this is just the tip of the iceberg kids uncle dick and pals like kids...lots so much that torture is recommended and electrical application to the genitals for CHILDREN Many parents will be very docile or passive when their kids are threatened and stripping the homeschoolers of their rights to educate their children is part of gaining control CPS is a facade I use to support them 40 yrs ago I supported them 30 yrs ago I still did even 20 yrs ago Now having worked with them, trying to help kids in the system, and parents...and dealing with legal authorities I no longer trust them they are mainly corrupted and profitting from trafficking and using orphaned kids like labrats-for profit Seems the accountability has decreased and they indulge in too many violations while continuing to victimize any true victims It is also used to politically castrate certain individuals-bsed solely on that many times and not actual facts OTOH when there are facts, too often the perpetrators are wealthy or politically connected and can do as they please just as the Franklin coverup is still being buried and covered up and the McMartin preschool is as well and the Presidio,Michael Aquino, and the Finders, a CIAfront for trafficking children check Ted Gunderson or John DeCamp's book truth is they want to keep all of us busy with anything that will detract from seeing the truth WHO ARE THEY TO BE IN JUDGEMENT OF THE REST OF US? Their own house is in shambles-and their propped leaders are but staged-for the consumption of the masses sitting on their asses-with their HD or blueray programmer Great post! These children in Oregon didn't have state register birth certificates or SSN and they were being home school. Something the evil Government doesn't like, they want you to conform and be a good slave. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 827276 United States 11/28/2009 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Delusional Dip shit, I will break this down into short statements that hopefully even you can understand: 1. These kids were NOT HOME SCHOOLED!!!! They where simply kept prisoners at home when they should have been in school! 2. DHS does not troll around the state looking for children to steal from their parents! 3. I am sure there is treatment for what every mental illness you suffer. Please get some help ASAP! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 827276 United States 12/08/2009 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Kozlov(a)'s have been found guilty of most of the 10 charges against them. Sentencing in a a couple of weeks. They represented themselves as "God is their only judge" and (of course) plan to appeal. If the way they spoke to their children in court is any indication they are both seriously screwed up by their religious beliefs and should never be allowed near any of the kids again. Just like in the Drown case, it looks like God has been pretty quiet about the whole child beating situation. I am going out on a limb here and saying that the Kozlov's have been convicted by a jury and that Judge Hart, not God, will be choosing where these two fanatics will be living for the foreseeable future as. |
Reality Check User ID: 839064 United States 12/12/2009 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, the Drowns were convicted in December of '08 and sentenced in January of '09. They were offered a plea, and had Robyn taken it, she would have served only seven years. They got off EASY, as the judge allowed concurrent sentences on some of the charges. If the judge would have done the sentences consecutively, Graydon would never, ever see the light of day again. Now, as someone who has studied this trial, read the transcript, saw the children testify, and was sitting in the courtroom, I will emphatically state that this was not DHS trolling for kids who were homeschooled. Quite the contrary, the kids came to the attention of the authorities only because the oldest two sons told their rabbi---AND the oldest son recorded a savage beating of the seven year sister at the hands of the father, aided by the mother--the child beat with a whip. That mother, and I use that term loosely, beat her children at the direction of her husband. Those kids butts bled after beatings. This was not normal discipline. Also, the state never made a huge issue about the homeschooling or the religion. What was made issue of is the kids could not even do simple math, some could not read. If mom was homeschooling, those kids would have had skills, instead of needing intensive tutoring for the last year to try and get to grade level. Immunization issues? That was not the deal......let me tell you what the deal was---the oldest boy was not allowed to have glasses. His father told him to pray that God would heal his eyesight. The child was legally blind!!!!!! People offered to buy him glasses, dad said no. Several of the kids needed root canals and caps on their teeth. One had had strep throat so many times as to permanently damage his throat. THIS IS NEGLECT AND CRIMINAL MISTREATMENT AT IT'S WORST. This was a vile trial with to people that are a waste of oxygen. They stole these children's childhood. As for the Koslov's.......they are just as bad. They did not plea out at all, instead were found guilty of 10 counts of child mistreatment and sentenced to 7 years. Interesting note, the judge was the same on both of these cases, Judge Hart. In both cases, the judge gave more time then the state asked. My guess is that the travesty of what he listened to, the fact that he had to watch those kids testify and breakdown crying helplessly, that he had to keep telling them to speak up, because they were so scared of their parents, their voices would quiet to a whisper, the fact that he had to keep handing them tissues and try and comfort them.......that gets to a person. Got to me, and I didn't have to say a word to them. Children are born with a constitutional right as well. They should be free of the terrorism that both these sets of parents systematically did to these precious kids. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 827276 United States 01/14/2010 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah this is bullshit. Fucking media is lying. [link to www.katu.com] Documents: Parents beat kids with pipe, wood Hey asswipe, It turns out that the media was not lying. The children TESTIFIED that they where beathen with 2x4's, plastic and metal pipes and whipped with a fibreglass tent pole. There was an audio tape of one of the beatings played in court too. Care to comment now you ignorant fuckwad? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 169265 United States 01/28/2010 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post! These children in Oregon didn't have state register birth certificates or SSN and they were being home school. Something the evil Government doesn't like, they want you to conform and be a good slave. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751021Who needs a birth certificate? Who needs a birth certificate? Well..um...anyone who wants a social security card or a drivers licence or a passport or to file an income tax return. Unless you plan to spend your life hold up in an armed compound with a three year supply of food "just in case" having the above mentioned things required to be a normal member of society. These two POS where hinding out from paying past child support to the state of California for their first three kids.It is the only reason they were not born in hospitals. The Drown's are not in prison having babies at home or not immunizing them or not bothering to teach them BASIC life skills. Home schooling? Please! The only home schooling that went on in the Drown home was Graydon Drown forcing the "doctrines" of his make it up as you go along personal "religion". The Drowns are in prison for CHILD ABUSE. They are exactly where they belong. "Mommy" has about 20 more years to serve and "daddy" will be in prison for almost 30 more years. Hopefully by then their children will have recovered enough from the horror they endured and not have anything to do with either of them. What a bunch of bullshit! Go after some crooks, like some of the politicians in Oregon tough guy. You are nothing but a parasite. |
protect the children User ID: 880414 United States 02/02/2010 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "What a bunch of bullshit! Go after some crooks, like some of the politicians in Oregon tough guy. You are nothing but a parasite." If you don't think the Drown's are "real criminals" then to have not been paying attention or are an idiot. The rest of you post has nothing to do with reality or this thread so I can't begin to comment. I do have a suggestion and that is that you get back on your medication ASAP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 880414 United States 02/05/2010 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because these kids have not already been through enough the asshat, piece of shit excuses for human beings that are their parents are having a trial to prevent termination of their parental rights or in this case to prevent the lose of their "property". Abusive father to represent himself in rights-termination trial By Ruth Liao • Statesman Journal • February 4, 2010 The trial proceedings that will determine the placement of children taken from a Turner-area couple convicted of child abuse resumed Wednesday amid more unusual behavior. Graydon Drown, 51, abruptly dismissed attorney Jeff Carter, who was asked by the court to assist Drown. Graydon Drown and Robyn Kay Drown, 43, are serving prison time for their convictions. Graydon Drown is serving 29 years; Robyn Drown is serving 20 years. The criminal court trial took place in late 2008. The Drowns were arrested in June 2008 and nine children were taken from the home after two teen sons disclosed the abuse to leaders of the local Jewish community. The family attended Temple Beth Sholom in South Salem. The trial that resumed Wednesday was set to terminate the parental rights of the Drowns for six of their children. Graydon Drown chose to represent himself. Robyn Drown is represented by attorney Dora Lutz. Assistant attorney general Kristen Farnworth is representing Oregon Department of Human Services, which is asking the court that the six younger children — who range in age from 6 months to 12 years — be adopted. The trial is expected to continue through next week. The first part of the trial took place in early January and was set to resume this month in order to allow time for Graydon Drown to prepare his defense. Most termination proceedings settle before trial. In 2009, the Department of Justice represented DHS in 81 termination of parental rights trials, winning 74 cases and losing seven cases, spokesman Tony Green said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 883426 United States 02/05/2010 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :hitler: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 827874:hitler: :hitler: In Germany it is illegal to homeschool. Adolph wanted all the children indoctrinated in state schools-the better to control and program the young In Cali they recently started going after homeschoolers more aggressively as the school loses money for each child homeschooled Likewise, for each kid they claim is ADD/ADHD the school get extra every year so it is to the benefit of the schools to have more kids who are technically special ed In the old days, children who were 'problematic' were called behavioral disorder or LD(learning disability) Now there is no longer a behavior disordered classification ALL OF THOSE KIDS ARE CALLED EMOTIONALLY DISORDERED so they are now psychiatric issues yes, and it is getting better all the time In Mass they are sing electric devices on the students who have Autism and do not respond the way they like this is just the tip of the iceberg kids uncle dick and pals like kids...lots so much that torture is recommended and electrical application to the genitals for CHILDREN Many parents will be very docile or passive when their kids are threatened and stripping the homeschoolers of their rights to educate their children is part of gaining control CPS is a facade I use to support them 40 yrs ago I supported them 30 yrs ago I still did even 20 yrs ago Now having worked with them, trying to help kids in the system, and parents...and dealing with legal authorities I no longer trust them they are mainly corrupted and profitting from trafficking and using orphaned kids like labrats-for profit Seems the accountability has decreased and they indulge in too many violations while continuing to victimize any true victims It is also used to politically castrate certain individuals-bsed solely on that many times and not actual facts OTOH when there are facts, too often the perpetrators are wealthy or politically connected and can do as they please just as the Franklin coverup is still being buried and covered up and the McMartin preschool is as well and the Presidio,Michael Aquino, and the Finders, a CIAfront for trafficking children check Ted Gunderson or John DeCamp's book truth is they want to keep all of us busy with anything that will detract from seeing the truth WHO ARE THEY TO BE IN JUDGEMENT OF THE REST OF US? Their own house is in shambles-and their propped leaders are but staged-for the consumption of the masses sitting on their asses-with their HD or blueray programmer Great post! These children in Oregon didn't have state register birth certificates or SSN and they were being home school. Something the evil Government doesn't like, they want you to conform and be a good slave. Wow!!!! Obama doesn't have birth certificate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 883800 United States 02/06/2010 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Asshole, Can you read? Or is it that you do not tolerate information that goes against your existing beliefs to reach you ever shrinking brain. (Use it or lose it!) Apparently you have still not figured out that this case was not about homeschooling or immunizations. It was about two subhuman freaks who got caught abusing, torturing and neglecting nine innocent children and that was after they already had their first three kids take from them for the exact same kind of abuse. These crap piles who call themselves "parents" are in prison, exactly where they belong. So go blow your "the goverment is out to gety us" horn someplace else your stupid fucktard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885831 United States 02/08/2010 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Asshole, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 883800Can you read? Or is it that you do not tolerate information that goes against your existing beliefs to reach you ever shrinking brain. (Use it or lose it!) Apparently you have still not figured out that this case was not about homeschooling or immunizations. It was about two subhuman freaks who got caught abusing, torturing and neglecting nine innocent children and that was after they already had their first three kids take from them for the exact same kind of abuse. These crap piles who call themselves "parents" are in prison, exactly where they belong. So go blow your "the goverment is out to gety us" horn someplace else your stupid fucktard. Who are you responding to? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 883800 United States 02/11/2010 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Un-fucking-believable! These two POS convicted child abusers are contesting the terminattion of their parental rights! Are they going to say "BOO HOO we are sorry and promise we will never beat our kids with pipes or 2x4's again"? These kids would have been safer being raised by a pack of wolves. Ruth Laio Statesman Journal 2-4-2010 The trial proceedings that will determine the placement of children taken from a Turner-area couple convicted of child abuse resumed Wednesday amid more unusual behavior. Graydon Drown, 51, abruptly dismissed attorney Jeff Carter, who was asked by the court to assist Drown. Drown and Robyn Kay Drown, 43, are serving prison time for their convictions. Graydon Drown is serving 29 years; Robyn Drown is serving 20 years. The criminal court trial took place in late 2008. The Drowns were arrested in June 2008 and nine children were taken from the home after two teen sons disclosed the abuse to leaders of the local Jewish community. The family attended Temple Beth Sholom in South Salem. The trial that resumed Wednesday was set to terminate the parental rights of the Drowns for six of their children. Graydon Drown chose to represent himself. Robyn Drown is represented by attorney Dora Lutz. Assistant attorney general Kristen Farnworth is representing Oregon Department of Human Services, which is asking the court that the six younger children — who range in age from 6 months to 12 years — be adopted. The trial is expected to continue through next week. The first part of the trial took place in early January and was set to resume this month in order to allow time for Graydon Drown to prepare his defense. Most termination proceedings settle before trial. In 2009, the Department of Justice represented DHS in 81 termination of parental rights trials, winning 74 cases and losing seven cases |
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