Brig. General Tinsley DEAD by suicide? | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tinsley: 12. July 1998 - February 2000, South Asia desk officer, Directorate for Plans and Policy (J5), Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C. 13. February 2000 - August 2000, executive assistant to the Deputy for Political-Military Affairs for Asia, Pacific and the Middle East, Directorate for Plans and Policy (J5), Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C. 14. August 2000 - November 2001, Director of Operations, 12th Fighter Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Alaska Note, above, his duty assignments before and immediately after 911/WTC. He was Joint Staff in the Directorate for Plans... And then he was suddenly in ALASKA... which is equivalent to "assigned to hell." What did he know and REFUSE TO BE A PART OF? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under pressure in an agency shake-up." Oh, shit... this Tinsley knew about the NUkES and the murders and the blackmarket... and would not play ball. He was dirty from 911 and was being blackmailed... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 475665 United States 07/29/2008 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under pressure in an agency shake-up." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376724Oh, shit... this Tinsley knew about the NUkES and the murders and the blackmarket... and would not play ball. He was dirty from 911 and was being blackmailed... You are dead on OP. |
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User ID: 424127 United States 07/29/2008 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892 – May 22, 1949) was a United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense. Forrestal's death resulted from a fall out of a Bethesda Naval Hospital window which has led to speculation and much controversy. He was also allegedly a member of a super-secret group called Majestic-12, supposedly created by Executive Order on September 24, 1947, by President Harry Truman. This group was supposed to be the main "umbrella group" overseeing UFO research in the aftermath of the Roswell UFO incident, the alleged recovery of a crashed flying saucer and alien bodies in July 1947. He was a supporter of naval battle groups centered on aircraft carriers. In 1954, the Navy's first supercarrier was named the USS Forrestal in his honor as is the headquarters the United States Department of Energy. He is also the namesake of the Forrestal Lecture Series at the United States Naval Academy, which brings prominent military and civilian leaders to speak to the Brigade of Midshipmen. Budman To The Rescue . . . :2cents: |
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User ID: 397865 United States 07/29/2008 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ""To the best information, it's possible it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound," Walberg said at a news conference. The weapon was likely a handgun." Wait, he shot himself in the chest? The weapon was "likely" a handgun? Does that mean they don't have the gun? Interesting. |
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observer User ID: 391855 United States 07/29/2008 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This AP story was in our local paper today (7/29) Washington AP The Air Force's logistics cheif has resigned saying that the recent leadership shake up by Defense Sec. Rbert gates has hurt his ability to do his job....interesting the timing of all of this... and WHY not a mention of this brigadeer General's death on the news today? By the way - Elmendorf AFB is in Anchorage AK, where the infamous senator Ted Stevens was being investigated for who really knows what.... the whole thing is stinky. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 472008 Canada 07/29/2008 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea is to reduce the world's population to under half a Billion. Reduce first and then cull the low IQ from the population. He was supposed to run the culling operation in Australia and South East Asia. He refused and shot himself. |
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User ID: 461916 United States 07/29/2008 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting...don't most people that use a hand gun for suicide generally shoot themselves in the head? Stuff going on in Alaska today: Thread: Breaking News >> Justice Department to Announce Charges Against Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens at 1:20 p.m. ET humm... Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 419783 United States 07/29/2008 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under pressure in an agency shake-up." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475665Oh, shit... this Tinsley knew about the NUkES and the murders and the blackmarket... and would not play ball. He was dirty from 911 and was being blackmailed... You are dead on OP. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tinsley also recently worked under Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne: MICHAEL W. WYNNE Download Hi-Res -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bio Tools Printable bio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stepped down as Secretary of the Air Force June 20, 2008. Michael W. Wynne is the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. He is the 21st Secretary and was confirmed on Nov. 3, 2005. He is responsible for the affairs of the Department of the Air Force, including the organizing, training, equipping and providing for the welfare of its nearly 370,000 men and women on active duty, 180,000 members of the Air National Guard and the Air Force Reserve, 160,000 civilians, and their families. With an annual budget of approximately $110 billion, he ensures the Air Force can meet its current and future operational requirements. Prior to assuming his current position, Mr. Wynne served as Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, and Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics. In these positions he was the principal adviser to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense for all matters relating to acquisition, research and development, and logistics management. Before entering public service, Mr. Wynne was involved in venture capital, nurturing small technology companies through their start-up phase as a member of the NextGenFund Executive Committee. He also served in executive positions within two companies. These companies were in the field of Travel (IXATA), and Logistics (Extended Reach Logistics). In 1999 Mr. Wynne had retired as Senior Vice President from General Dynamics, where his role was in International Development and Strategy. He had rejoined the company at the invitation of the Chairman to strengthen international activities. In between working with General Dynamics, he spent three years with Lockheed Martin, having sold the General Dynamics' Space Systems Division to then Martin Marietta. He successfully integrated the division into the Astronautics Company and became the General Manager of the Space Launch Systems segment, combining the Titan with the Atlas Launch vehicles. Mr. Wynne spent a total of 23 years with General Dynamics in various senior positions with the Aircraft (F-16s) and Main Battle Tanks (M1A2) Divisions, and served on the corporate staff prior to becoming the President of Space Systems, including Launch Vehicles (Atlas and Centaur), and a Corporate Vice President. Mr. Wynne graduated from the U.S. Military Academy and served in the Air Force for seven years, ending his career as a captain and assistant professor of astronautics at the U.S. Air Force Academy. Mr. Wynne has published numerous professional journal articles relating to engineering, cost estimating and contracting. EDUCATION 1966 Bachelor of Science degree in general engineering, U.S. Military Academy, West Point, N.Y. 1970 Master's degree in electrical engineering, Air Force Institute of Technology, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio 1975 Master's degree in business, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs CAREER CHRONOLOGY 1. June 1966 - June 1973, Air Force officer 2. July 1973 - June 1975, Principal, Research Analysis and Development (RAD), Inc. 3. July 1975 - May 1994, various executive positions within General Dynamics, retired as President, Space Systems 4. May 1994 - March 1997, General Manager, Space Launch Systems, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, Colo. 5. July 1997 - October 1999, Senior Vice President, General Dynamics, Falls Church, Va. 6. December 2000 - July 2001, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, IXATA Group, San Diego, Calif. 7. July 2001 - October 2005, Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, Washington, D.C. (May 2003 - April 2005, also served as acting Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics) 8. April 2005 - June 2005, Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, Washington, D.C. 9. November 2005 - present, Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND ASSOCIATIONS Fellow, National Contracts Management Association Former President, Association of the U.S. Army, Detroit Chapter Former President, American Defense Preparedness Association, Michigan Chapter |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out Wynne's vitae: 5. July 1997 - October 1999, Senior Vice President, General Dynamics, Falls Church, Va. 6. December 2000 - July 2001, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, IXATA Group, San Diego, Calif. 7. July 2001 - October 2005, Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, Washington, D.C. (May 2003 - April 2005, also served as acting Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics) He came to DC in July 2001 just in time for 911 where he was principle deputy for defense acquisition and logistics... after just coming there from being senior vice president of General Dynamics... what a surprise. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 357422 United States 07/29/2008 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "...it's possible it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound..." "The weapon was likely a handgun." Possible and likely? If it was a handgun, it would have been nearby and easy to identify. I note that he was at Elmendorf from 2000 to 2001 so he might have liked Alaska and requested duty there. As aide to the Chief of the Air Staff for the Airforce, he could get any posting he wanted afterward. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tinsley also worked under General T. Michael Moseley: GENERAL T. MICHAEL MOSELEY Download Hi-Res -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bio Tools Printable bio -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Retiring effective Aug. 1, 2008. General T. Michael Moseley is Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. As Chief, he serves as the senior uniformed Air Force officer responsible for the organization, training and equipage of nearly 700,000 active-duty, Guard, Reserve and civilian forces serving in the United States and overseas. As a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the general and other service chiefs function as military advisers to the Secretary of Defense, National Security Council and the President. General Moseley graduated from Texas A&M University in 1971 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science. He earned a Master of Arts degree from Texas A&M University in 1972, also in political science. He has commanded the F-15 Division of the USAF Fighter Weapons School at Nellis AFB, Nev., the 33rd Operations Group at Eglin AFB, Fla., and the 57th Wing, the Air Force's largest, most diverse flying wing, also at Nellis. The general has served as the combat Director of Operations for Joint Task Force-Southwest Asia. General Moseley also commanded 9th Air Force and U.S. Central Command Air Forces while serving as Combined Forces Air Component Commander for operations Southern Watch, Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom. The general is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He has been awarded the Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, the Order of National Merit (Officer) and the Order of National Merit (Commander) by the president of the French Republic, which is the second highest French military award. He has also been awarded the United Arab Emirates' Military Medal, 1st Class, by the president of the U.A.E., the Mérito Santos-Dumont from the Brazilian Air Force, and the Republic of Singapore Meritorious Service Medal. General Moseley's staff assignments have been a mix of operational, joint and personnel duties. These include serving in Washington, D.C., as Director for Legislative Liaison for the Secretary of the Air Force; Deputy Director for Politico-Military Affairs for Asia/Pacific and Middle East, the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Chief of the Air Force General Officer Matters Office; Chief of Staff of the Air Force Chair and Professor of Joint and Combined Warfare at the National War College; and Chief of the Tactical Fighter Branch, Tactical Forces Division, Directorate of Plans, Headquarters U.S. Air Force. EDUCATION 1971 Bachelor of Arts degree in political science, Texas A&M University, College Station 1972 Master of Arts degree in political science, Texas A&M University, College Station 1977 Squadron Officer School, Maxwell AFB, Ala. 1981 Fighter Weapons Instructor Course, U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev. 1984 Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell AFB, Ala. 1988 U.S. Air Force Joint Senior Battle Commander's Course, Hurlburt Field, Fla. 1990 National War College, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington, D.C. 2000 Combined Force Air Component Commander Course, Maxwell AFB, Ala., and Hurlburt Field, Fla. ASSIGNMENTS 1. June 1972 - May 1973, student, undergraduate pilot training, Webb AFB, Texas 2. May 1973 - July 1977, T-37 instructor pilot and spin flight test pilot; flight check pilot, and standardization and evaluation flight examiner, 3389th Flying Training Squadron, 78th Flying Training Wing, Webb AFB, Texas 3. July 1977 - September 1979, F-15 instructor pilot, flight lead and mission commander, 7th Tactical Fighter Squadron, Holloman AFB, N.M. 4. September 1979 - August 1983, F-15 weapons and tactics officer, instructor pilot, and flight lead and mission commander; standardization and evaluation/ flight examiner, 44th Tactical Fighter Squadron and 12th Tactical Fighter Squadron, Kadena Air Base, Japan 5. August 1983 - June 1984, course officer, Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell AFB, Ala. 6. June 1984 - June 1987, Chief, Tactical Fighter Branch, Tactical Forces Division, Directorate of Plans, Deputy Chief of Staff for Plans and Operations, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. 7. June 1987 - June 1989, Commander, F-15 Division, and instructor pilot, Fighter Weapons Instructor Course, U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev. 8. June 1989 - June 1990, course officer, National War College, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington, D.C. 9. June 1990 - August 1992, Chief of Staff of the Air Force chair and professor of Joint and Combined Warfare, National War College, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington, D.C. 10. August 1992 - January 1994, Commander, 33rd Operations Group, Eglin AFB, Fla. 11. January 1994 - May 1996, Chief, Air Force General Officer Matters Office, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. 12. May 1996 - November 1997, Commander, 57th Wing, Nellis AFB, Nev. 13. November 1997 - July 1999, Deputy Director for Politico-Military Affairs, Asia/Pacific and Middle East, Directorate for Strategic Plans and Policy, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C. 14. July 1999 - October 2001, Director, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. 15. November 2001 - August 2003, Commander, 9th Air Force and U.S. Central Command Air Forces, Shaw AFB, S.C. 16. August 2003 - September 2005, Vice Chief of Staff, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. 17. September 2005 - July 2008, Chief of Staff, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. FLIGHT INFORMATION Rating: Command pilot Flight hours: More than 2,800 Aircraft flown: T-37, T-38, AT-38 and F-15A/B/C/D MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS Defense Distinguished Service Medal with oak leaf cluster Air Force Distinguished Service Medal with two oak leaf clusters Army Distinguished Service Medal Navy Distinguished Service Medal Coast Guard Distinguished Service Medal Defense Superior Service Medal with oak leaf cluster Legion of Merit with oak leaf cluster Meritorious Service Medal with three oak leaf clusters Air Medal Joint Service Commendation Medal Air Force Commendation Medal Air Force Achievement Medal Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal Global War on Terrorism Service Medal Korea Defense Service Medal Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire French National Order of Merit (Commander) French National Order of Merit (Officer) United Arab Emirates' Military Medal, 1st Class Mérito Santos-Dumont, Brazilian Air Force Republic of Singapore Meritorious Service Medal (Military) OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS 2003 H.H. Arnold Award, the Air Force Association's highest honor to a military member in the field of National Security 2004 Sergeant William Jasper Freedom Award for contributions in maintaining freedom 2005 U.S. Air Force Sergeant's Association Excellence in Military Leadership 2005 James V. Hartinger Award for significant achievements in advancing the military space mission 2005 Inducted into the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets Hall of Honor EFFECTIVE DATES OF PROMOTION Second Lieutenant July 9, 1971 First Lieutenant July 9, 1974 Captain Jan. 9, 1976 Major Oct. 1, 1983 Lieutenant Colonel March 1, 1986 Colonel April 1, 1991 Brigadier General Dec. 1, 1996 Major General Feb. 1, 2000 Lieutenant General Nov. 7, 2001 General Oct. 1, 2003 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13. November 1997 - July 1999, Deputy Director for Politico-Military Affairs, Asia/Pacific and Middle East, Directorate for Strategic Plans and Policy, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C. 14. July 1999 - October 2001, Director, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. 15. November 2001 - August 2003, Commander, 9th Air Force and U.S. Central Command Air Forces, Shaw AFB, S.C. -- Tinsley and Moseley intersection: 13. November 1997 - July 1999, Deputy Director for Politico-Military Affairs, Asia/Pacific and Middle East, Directorate for Strategic Plans and Policy, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C. -- Something is rotten in the Directorate for Strategic Plans and Policy, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C. Check it out here: [link to www.google.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Source: Navy Times.com Air Force leadership to be asked to resign Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne and Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley are expected to be asked to resign Thursday, Air Force Times has learned. The stunning development follows a series of high-profile scandals and disagreements between Air Force leadership and Defense Secretary Robert Gates in the past year, during which both the Pentagon and congressional leadership have increasingly expressed frustration about the Air Force’s top bosses. The last straw appears to be a report on nuclear weapons handling by Navy Adm. Kirkland Donald, director of naval nuclear propulsion. The critical report convinced Gates that changes must be made. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen recalled Moseley to Washington for an early-morning meeting Thursday. Moseley had been hosting a four-star conclave of top Air Force leaders at the thrice-yearly Corona leadership conference at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio. Following that meeting, Moseley returned to Corona with Air Force public affairs chief Brig. Gen. Darren McDew. Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England is en route to Wright-Patterson, sources said. He is expected to meet with Wynne to ask for his resignation. -- What about that Bomber that went down in the ocean with all 6 crewmen killed here recently? Did that B-52 Bomber have nukes on board? [link to ap.google.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 376724 United States 07/29/2008 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a summary for you who do not read: Tinsley (Brig Gen) offed himself because he wouldn't go along with selling nukes to black ops/terrorist. He'd been working with Moseley and another airforce dude and both those dudes were asked to resign by Gates (Sec of Defense) because of the nukes showing up in Louisana on a B-52. Well, just a few weeks ago another B-52 crashed in Guam and it was probably loaded with nukes and all the crew were killed... was this a "delivery" of stolen-and-then-sold-to-terrorists nukes by these high-ranking airforce peeps who are now either resigned or dead? What about all the dead B-52 crewmembers and all the other dead B-52 peeps regarding the Louisiana/Minot ND nukes? Something is really going on here. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 335304 United Kingdom 07/29/2008 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under pressure in an agency shake-up." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376724Oh, shit... this Tinsley knew about the NUkES and the murders and the blackmarket... and would not play ball. He was dirty from 911 and was being blackmailed... |
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