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>>>EXCLUSIVE:<<< To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them

 
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>>>EXCLUSIVE:<<< To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them
EXCLUSIVE: To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them»
Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh — a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker — revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President’s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh’s most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The “meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. ‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’” according to one of Hersh’s sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney’s office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.

Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of — that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

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Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, “if you get the right incident, the American public will support” it.

“Look, is it high school? Yeah,” Hersh said. “Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.”

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HERSH: There was a meeting. Among the items considered and rejected — which is why the New Yorker did not publish it, on grounds that it wasn’t accepted — one of the items was why not…

There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up. Might cost some lives.

And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of — that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

So I can understand the argument for not writing something that was rejected — uh maybe. My attitude always towards editors is they’re mice training to be rats.

But the point is jejune, if you know what that means. Silly? Maybe. But potentially very lethal. Because one of the things they learned in the incident was the American public, if you get the right incident, the American public will support bang-bang-kiss-kiss. You know, we’re into it.

…What happened in the Gulf was, in the Straits, in early January, the President was just about to go to the Middle East for a visit. So that was one reason they wanted to gin it up. Get it going.

Look, is it high school? Yeah. Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.
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And so it continues... Bring it on...
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should be front page news in the MSM....but not a peep....
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I posted this here last night, should have been pinned right away, but no...it fell to the back pages in no time! This is surely one of the biggest stories out there!

B R E A K I N G..... Hello America in your somber... BUMP!
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Cheney was probably behind the Radio Heckler ‘Filipino Monkey’ too, think about it!
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You can't just make this stuff up, How is this traitor not behind bars...
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should be front page news in the MSM....but not a peep....
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Agreed, its just unreal
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should be front page news in the MSM....but not a peep....

Agreed, its just unreal
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Mods, please pin ... just a humble request

People are sleeping god dammit!!!!!!!!!!
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Cheney was probably behind the Radio Heckler ‘Filipino Monkey’ too, think about it!
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This is why the internet is replacing TV and the newspapers for the "choice" of media. It's great to get the REAL truth from the freedom fighters and from those who are stepping up to the plate and letting it out through website interviews and videos that we'll NEVER see on MSM.

I love the truth fighters! Keep up the great work!
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You can't just make this stuff up, How is this traitor not behind bars...
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That's what Alex Jones always says
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Glad to see this one come back from obscurity - Listen up folks! This is really important - no conspiracy theories. Do some homework - and YES this is so key to all that is happening - it explains 9/11, iraq and iran - israel ...and the "suicides" of so many scientists and military guys recently.... if you can get this, you will start to understand so much.... MODS SHOULD PIN!!!!
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Glad to see this one come back from obscurity - Listen up folks! This is really important - no conspiracy theories. Do some homework - and YES this is so key to all that is happening - it explains 9/11, iraq and iran - israel ...and the "suicides" of so many scientists and military guys recently.... if you can get this, you will start to understand so much.... MODS SHOULD PIN!!!!
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BUMP for truth, If this does not point right at the most EVIL Power On The Globe, nothing does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about a pin now mods?
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‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’” according to one of Hersh’s sources.


According to one of Hersh's sources!!!

To see something you want to believe and oh my god it must be the truth!!!!

You are the same bunch that links 911 truth sites as source for 911 post!!

yep the ole VP is nothing but a War Hog!!!


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‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’” according to one of Hersh’s sources.


According to one of Hersh's sources!!!

To see something you want to believe and oh my god it must be the truth!!!!

You are the same bunch that links 911 truth sites as source for 911 post!!

yep the ole VP is nothing but a War Hog!!!


ice
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make sure you knew the well informed above post was in fact me!

I am right 98% of the time!!!


ice
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Below - Great American!!

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Vice President Dick Cheney
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Vice President Richard B. Cheney has had a distinguished career as a businessman and public servant, serving four Presidents and as an elected official. Throughout his service, Mr. Cheney served with duty, honor, and unwavering leadership, gaining him the respect of the American people during trying military times.

Mr. Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, on January 30, 1941 and grew up in Casper, Wyoming. He earned his bachelor's and master's of arts degrees from the University of Wyoming. His career in public service began in 1969 when he joined the Nixon Administration, serving in a number of positions at the Cost of Living Council, at the Office of Economic Opportunity, and within the White House.

When Gerald Ford assumed the Presidency in August 1974, Mr. Cheney served on the transition team and later as Deputy Assistant to the President. In November 1975, he was named Assistant to the President and White House Chief of Staff, a position he held throughout the remainder of the Ford Administration.

After he returned to his home state of Wyoming in 1977, Mr. Cheney was elected to serve as the state's sole Congressman in the U.S. House of Representatives. He was re-elected five times and elected by his colleagues to serve as Chairman of the Republican Policy Committee from 1981 to 1987. He was elected Chairman of the House Republican Conference in 1987 and elected House Minority Whip in 1988. During his tenure in the House, Mr. Cheney earned a reputation as a man of knowledge, character, and accessibility.

Mr. Cheney also served a crucial role when America needed him most. As Secretary of Defense from March 1989 to January 1993, Mr. Cheney directed two of the largest military campaigns in recent history - Operation Just Cause in Panama and Operation Desert Storm in the Middle East. He was responsible for shaping the future of the U.S. military in an age of profound and rapid change as the Cold War ended. For his leadership in the Gulf War, Secretary Cheney was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George Bush on July 3, 1991.
Mr. Cheney married his high school sweetheart, Lynne Ann Vincent, in 1964, and they have grown daughters, Elizabeth and Mary, three granddaughters and three grandsons.
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Vice President Dick Cheney
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Vice President Richard B. Cheney has had a distinguished career as a businessman and public servant, serving four Presidents and as an elected official. Throughout his service, Mr. Cheney served with duty, honor, and unwavering leadership, gaining him the respect of the American people during trying military times.

Mr. Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, on January 30, 1941 and grew up in Casper, Wyoming. He earned his bachelor's and master's of arts degrees from the University of Wyoming. His career in public service began in 1969 when he joined the Nixon Administration, serving in a number of positions at the Cost of Living Council, at the Office of Economic Opportunity, and within the White House.

When Gerald Ford assumed the Presidency in August 1974, Mr. Cheney served on the transition team and later as Deputy Assistant to the President. In November 1975, he was named Assistant to the President and White House Chief of Staff, a position he held throughout the remainder of the Ford Administration.

After he returned to his home state of Wyoming in 1977, Mr. Cheney was elected to serve as the state's sole Congressman in the U.S. House of Representatives. He was re-elected five times and elected by his colleagues to serve as Chairman of the Republican Policy Committee from 1981 to 1987. He was elected Chairman of the House Republican Conference in 1987 and elected House Minority Whip in 1988. During his tenure in the House, Mr. Cheney earned a reputation as a man of knowledge, character, and accessibility.

Mr. Cheney also served a crucial role when America needed him most. As Secretary of Defense from March 1989 to January 1993, Mr. Cheney directed two of the largest military campaigns in recent history - Operation Just Cause in Panama and Operation Desert Storm in the Middle East. He was responsible for shaping the future of the U.S. military in an age of profound and rapid change as the Cold War ended. For his leadership in the Gulf War, Secretary Cheney was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George Bush on July 3, 1991.
Mr. Cheney married his high school sweetheart, Lynne Ann Vincent, in 1964, and they have grown daughters, Elizabeth and Mary, three granddaughters and three grandsons.
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Cheney is what is wrong with this country! he is scum
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The fact that Cheney's office is even talking about such ideas essentially proves that the Administration knows it does not have a genuine reason to go to war with Iran, otherwise they would focus on that rather than faking something up.
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The fact that Cheney's office is even talking about such ideas essentially proves that the Administration knows it does not have a genuine reason to go to war with Iran, otherwise they would focus on that rather than faking something up.
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you believe with all your heart you have the truth on this based on undisclosed sources!!!!


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The fact that Cheney's office is even talking about such ideas essentially proves that the Administration knows it does not have a genuine reason to go to war with Iran, otherwise they would focus on that rather than faking something up.
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And it doesn't bother you that Sy Hersh doesn't even mention a source?...Like someone that sat in on this supposed meeting THEN went and leaked shit from the Vice Presidents office to Hersh?

Nigga, please...

rolleyes
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For some reason this will not be pinned :-(
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For some reason this will not be pinned :-(
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Could it be that it was posted twice yesterday ya think?

Or is it that no one that sat in on a supposed 'illegal' meeting would be stupid enough to incriminate themsleves by 'leaking' to Sy Hersh?

This whole rant sounds like 'The Voice Of The Whitehouse' bullshit...
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And it doesn't bother you that Sy Hersh doesn't even mention a source?...Like someone that sat in on this supposed meeting THEN went and leaked shit from the Vice Presidents office to Hersh?

Nigga, please...

rolleyes
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Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker probably does have a good source Nigga, please... but to openly mention it the to the public might cause the source to sucide him/her self... Nigga...
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Tis funny, all the trolls are dispatched here to cover cheneys ass!
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Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker probably does have a good source Nigga, please... but to openly mention it the to the public might cause the source to sucide him/her self... Nigga...
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Do yourself a favour and look up Hersh and his bullshit...

[link to www.thebluesite.com]

Seymour Hersh Admits He's a Liar (Okay, Only HALF a Liar)
(253 Words) Posted at April 14, 2005 06:48 PM in Politics .

Seymour Hersh has admitted that he's nothing but a liar. It's okay tho, he only lies when he gives $15, 000 college campus speeches or gives talks for the ACLU and that sort of thing, he assures us he never lies in print (a liar who says 'believe me'...funny.)

In a recent interview, Hersh said the following in regards to his fibbing:

"Sometimes I change events, dates, and places in a certain way to protect people...I can’t fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say.”

and when Hersh changes names, dates, places, and the like:

“I defend that totally...I find that totally not inconsistent with anything I do professionally. I’m just communicating another reality that I know, that for a lot of reasons having to do with, basically, someone else’s ass, I’m not writing about it.”

Hersh is merely "communicating another reality" that he knows of?! Outrageous. It's okay tho, he still stands by his practice of lying in speeches and on talk shows and such, he just promises he never lies in print (whew, and thought we were dealing with a FULL time liar here, as long as he's only a liar 80% of the time, it's okay I guess.)

Hersh puts it out on the table, and in doing so he let's us all know that nothing he says can be trusted. That's okay tho, his theories are so insane that we reasonable people started ignoring him long ago, not the rest of you can join along.
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Re: >>>EXCLUSIVE:<<< To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them
So you don't think Cheney is capable of planning falce flag events to futher his (and Israel's) agenda? Are you living with blinders on nigga?





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