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The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!

 
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The thing that is quite something is..How they have the Christians all Anti Witch..YET the Christians have NO IDEA who the WITCH really is..And that they support the WITCH and do not even KNOW that..

She makes herself look like a man...A HuMAN..
"Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE"

"The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD"

"I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US."
- Martin Luther


"What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE"

"What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later"

"Stones to throw at my Creator..
MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther..
But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS"
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WTF do you have against Satanists? All that candle lighting and prayer, invocation bullshit. You have no true power that is not borrowed from within. I suggest you stick to your toys, because when the real shit touches your life you will fear.

Have a nice day.
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
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No we actually don't hate Christians. We simply wish to be left alone by your lot. Yours is not the only path to God.

In our own groups and circles when we talk about Christians among ourselves we actually feel sorry for Christians.


The ones we Hate are the Christians that can't seem to get it threw their minds that we are very happy with our Faith and lead healthy and productive lives, raise childern, hold down good jobs and otherwise are productive members of society.


Then without fail you meet Chirstians like I did the other month when shopping in the mall. I was wearing my pentacle and was followed half way down the mall by bible track carrying Christian. Went into the bathroom to take a leak and standing over the urinal doing my business. I hear behind..

"But Jesus Loves You."

The inconsiderate Christian didn't even allow me to piss before preaching at me! Lets just say I told him where he can stick his bible tracks and it wasn't back into pocket. ;)


Nightshade 09




Many of them HATE Christians! The globalist NWO EVIL hierarchy fall into this belief.


Believe however you want just stay out of the schools and quit forcing your beliefs on us, witch.
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The EVIL that this place is..Has played the Christians SO MUCH it's not even funny..And I mean all types of Christians..
And to be fair..MANY OTHERS that are not so called "Christians"...Have been played as well..They have played us all....However..They have really gone to work on the Christians..
They are their special lil part of their evil agenda..

They won't believe it now if you tell them...But they are going to find out in the end...
And we are well on our way to that now..

Broken promises!..
"Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE"

"The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD"

"I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US."
- Martin Luther


"What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE"

"What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later"

"Stones to throw at my Creator..
MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther..
But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS"
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Skyclad by the bonfire, dancing under the moonlight...

it's definately all good! thumbs
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There's a sight I'd like to see hf
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We have nothing against your lot either.

But here's the deal.

Your a Satanist in name only.

A vast vast majority of your lot don't actually believe in the existence of this creature. You use the image and symbolism though and base your entire philosophy on premise that Man alone is the ultimate end all and be all. In other words "The dominate inherit the earth and screw the rest." Natural Selection.

Since you do not literally worship any deity yours is more a Philosophy then it is a Faith or Spiritual Belief.




WTF do you have against Satanists? All that candle lighting and prayer, invocation bullshit. You have no true power that is not borrowed from within. I suggest you stick to your toys, because when the real shit touches your life you will fear.

Have a nice day.
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"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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For the sake of debate.

IF Satan or "The Devil" exists. It certainly wouldn't be bothering itself with Wiccans, Pagans or Witches. Since by some Christian dogma's, we're already damned souls to begin with.

No Satan wouldn't be wasting its time with us. It would be actively working to destroy Christianity from within. Since its Christianity which would be its target enemy.


Just a thought.


Nightshade 09





The EVIL that this place is..Has played the Christians SO MUCH it's not even funny..And I mean all types of Christians..
And to be fair..MANY OTHERS that are not so called "Christians"...Have been played as well..They have played us all....However..They have really gone to work on the Christians..
They are their special lil part of their evil agenda..

They won't believe it now if you tell them...But they are going to find out in the end...
And we are well on our way to that now..

Broken promises!..
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"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Oh, I'm used to it. I have faith in Jesus and I'm OK with what I believe. However, I think you will be mighty uncomfortable when Jesus comes back, and you're in line at the Sheep and Goats judgment and He asks the witches: "What was up with THAT?"

Will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, loves you, and want you to turn to Him?
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts



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jesus is imaginary. The christer god, their devil, their hell, and their heaven are all imaginary. Their religion is a fraud. It's an empty belief is an imiganary supernatural god. It's a cult of mindlessness.

What a monster the make believe bible god was anyway. According to their old shit book. their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypt one night, including all first born animals.... What a blood thirsty monster piece of shit god.

Then that fuck slaughtered every living thing on the planet including all plants and animals. What low life scum bag god the christers worship.

It's just a joke god though, its a no show god, it's a nothing god, its a never was god.

No supernatural god actually exists.

The money churches rake in tax free is real though. Christers claim they have an all powerful god, but their ALL POWERFUL god is powerless without their MONEY.


Course with trillions collected tax free it hasnt actually done a single verifiable fucking thing. Examples:

1. It has never in history healed a single amputated limb back on even one single amputee.

2. It has never verifiably healed a a single open or visible wound on the spot.

3. For 6,000 years it has been called to appear trillions of times....... but it has never EVER......not once appeared IN PERSON.......Not even for one minute. Not EVER.


4. It loves to slaughter and starve little babies to death.
world wide.

5. It loves abortions becauwe it has never in history stopped even one abortion.

6. It obviously doesn't actually DO anything.......... Thats because it doesn't really exist. It's only a make believe god.

The devil, working for free, kicks gods dick into his throat ever minute of every day. The bible god is only a nowhere never was make believe god.
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Keep talking, wiccans, I'll keep reloading...

...and thanks for "coming out of the shadows",

my aim isn't as good in the dark. ;)
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Celtic Woman - the Voice (The Voice of the Goddess)



"the Voice" is sung by Lisa Kelly with Mairead Nesbitt on the fiddle. Celtic Woman

Want to know why we're Pagan, Witches, and Wiccan???

Because we've heard that Voice and Found God in Goddess and God ;)
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For the sake of debate.

IF Satan or "The Devil" exists. It certainly wouldn't be bothering itself with Wiccans, Pagans or Witches. Since by some Christian dogma's, we're already damned souls to begin with.

No Satan wouldn't be wasting its time with us. It would be actively working to destroy Christianity from within. Since its Christianity which would be its target enemy.


Just a thought.


Nightshade 09

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You are right on all counts save 'IF'
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A Brief Look At The Pagan Norse (The Northmen) Vikings and their Beliefs.


"In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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who gives a crap? you're a self-important little twit niteshade. ok then hear this, i'm a usa despiser, and go russia, and i'm not going anywere, get used to IT!!! moron.
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A Computer generated Graphic of what is termed "The Northern Crusade" (1200ad - 1639ad) When the Christian Church (Catholics) sent in their armed forces to Convert the Pagan Tribes of the North to Christianity.

This how Christianty Spread in Europe. Why most of you are Christian Today. Either you Converted or you Died!

The Teutonic Knight Order in the Northern Crusades "Holy Order of the Brotehrs of the Sword" Sword Brotheres.


In this CGI you see a fictional Battle which took place in Latvia in 1250. AD Though this CGI is fictional depiction. The Crusade was Real.

In 1638 AD the Crusade was stale mate after 400 years of fighting. The Christian Nobles and Pagan Nobles of Baltics hammered out a Truce..

In return for the Baltic Tribes to accept Christianity on Paper. The Church would withdraw its forces. The Church would look the other way of Pagan Faiths were still practiced among the people as long as Payments went to Rome. The Baltic Pagan Nobles found it acceptable terms. The Baltic Pagan Nobles celebrated the signing of the truce with Pagan Ritual and Festivals. :)

To this day 2008 We Latvians, Lithuiana, Estonia. Are still largely Pagan. As was my Grandmom and Catholic Grandfather. :)


Baltic Pagans Then::



Baltic Latvians Today! :)

SkyForger Latvian Pagan Metal Band (my Kinfolk ;)

He's singging a old folk song about Crusades and our Victories in them.




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You hate your people and culture? How sad, how truly sad.

I'd die for mine. Oh and the song? Its a Pagan Warriors song Field Battle Song still song by Baltic Troops to this day. And the last thing a Russian will hear when he leaves this life crossing our borders. :)




who gives a crap? you're a self-important little twit niteshade. ok then hear this, i'm a usa despiser, and go russia, and i'm not going anywere, get used to IT!!! moron.
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Here's an example of "Christian" Love Was Expressed To the Pagans and Witches of Europe.

The Burning Times





An why most Wiccans, Pagans and Witches don't give a flying leap about your so called Christian Love for humanity. We know you to be hypocrites today as you were in the middle ages.
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Nothing Christian about them. Do you think Jesus would approve of burning witches? Of course not.

OP there is witchcreaft and witchcraft as you well know. The one I epect you are referring to that does not destroy but wants to change or alter or command is a memory of how things used to be but isnt exactly correct, it gets some facts right and mixes with other beliefs that makes it not exact.

We are all connected.= We are connected with this planet and with the energies that exist. But we musnt forget that above all is God, the source from whence all proceed. If we try to later without the God source we are entering a vicious circle that put us in the connundrum we are at.
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What Im trying to say is that you can master by connecting to the Source, God. By raising the vibrations. Thats the only way that has no payback. Any other altering without the God source has a pay back as you probably well know.
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Oh, I'm used to it. I have faith in Jesus and I'm OK with what I believe. However, I think you will be mighty uncomfortable when Jesus comes back, and you're in line at the Sheep and Goats judgment and He asks the witches: "What was up with THAT?"

Will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, loves you, and want you to turn to Him?



Up with what? Lighting a candle and having flowers?

Do you know anything about it?
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'What was up with rejecting Me?' I meant. Wiccans can be as passive and lovely as they want, but lighting candles to anyone except Jesus Christ as Savior means they will not enter the Kingdom when He comes. "No one comes to the Father but by Me," Jesus said. Of tose who rejected Him He will say, "Away from Me. I never knew you." Mt 7:29 This includes Witches.

Having flowers is fine, but you are being disingenuous to say that Wiccans are OK because they do. I have flowers, but I am not a Wiccan.

Again, will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, and wants you to turn away from false religion and Love Him? He will save you from sin and you can then dwell with Him forever in glory.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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The Source of All that Is would like to have a word with you
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Again, will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, and wants you to turn away from false religion and Love Him? He will save you from sin and you can then dwell with Him forever in glory.
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

would ye consider the possibility that yer full of shit? what if yer right? then i meet yer god head on knowing that i've lived my life with honor and the consequences are mine. not that i find the consequences of honor bad ye ken? what if yer wrong? then ye just drift on through time trying to shove yer bullshit down folks throat for no reason except ye think ye are better than other folks. i think it's because ye are afraid myself. afraid to take responsibility for yerself. ye must have this silly "god" to save ye from yerself and are even silly enough to think any of us give a shit. take yer god of fear and shove him where the sun don't shine. i'm not a wiccan. it's not my culture. i'm also not a christian. ye and yer kind broke me of that nonsense decades ago.

let me try this a bit plainer... fuck ye. i don't want yer preaching. i don't want ye to save my soul. my soul is fine and yer saving generally winds up with dead bodies and dead souls. so... fuck ye. keep it to yerself. is that plain enough for ye?

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Oh, I'm used to it. I have faith in Jesus and I'm OK with what I believe. However, I think you will be mighty uncomfortable when Jesus comes back, and you're in line at the Sheep and Goats judgment and He asks the witches: "What was up with THAT?"

Will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, loves you, and want you to turn to Him?
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Christianity =sheep magick.
Sheep totem people are very disturbed by "black sheep", or, heaven forfend! goats.
Ironically ,goats and sheep share a common ancestry.
Sheep people are also very stupid which is why they need a shepherd.
So stupid they've been known to mistake black cats for black sheep.
Or even black humans for that matter.

sheep
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it's pretty pathetic to be called a god or messiah when your only apparent hopes in the universe is to be loved by people and that they die away alone in darkness with only their faith in you to get them through.

"and is it also too much to ask that they not fuck or smile? or dance to music? and could you maybe burn a few villages down in my name? also don't use science or medicine they threaten my status, i'll have to send locusts or something to show you who's the real bad ass motherfucker. if this all all gets too complicated just remember to basickly go nowhere do nothing contribute nothing to humanity, suffer, inflict pain, and most of all keep your eye to the sky for my jubilant return, i need to be looked at. that's when i'm really going to make things better and right. i can't now, i'm still picking out my wardrobe while taking down the names of those who think i'm not all i say i am.

maybe dr phil can help him with his "issues".
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Again, will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, and wants you to turn away from false religion and Love Him? He will save you from sin and you can then dwell with Him forever in glory.

would ye consider the possibility that yer full of shit? what if yer right? then i meet yer god head on knowing that i've lived my life with honor and the consequences are mine. not that i find the consequences of honor bad ye ken? what if yer wrong? then ye just drift on through time trying to shove yer bullshit down folks throat for no reason except ye think ye are better than other folks. i think it's because ye are afraid myself. afraid to take responsibility for yerself. ye must have this silly "god" to save ye from yerself and are even silly enough to think any of us give a shit. take yer god of fear and shove him where the sun don't shine. i'm not a wiccan. it's not my culture. i'm also not a christian. ye and yer kind broke me of that nonsense decades ago.

let me try this a bit plainer... fuck ye. i don't want yer preaching. i don't want ye to save my soul. my soul is fine and yer saving generally winds up with dead bodies and dead souls. so... fuck ye. keep it to yerself. is that plain enough for ye?

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 Quoting: ross 492238


Wow.

I believe what I believe. I asked if you would consider the possibility that Jesus is real. I'm sorry that you took it as shoving it down your throat.

However, I cannot and will not keep it to myself. The Good News of Jesus is just too good.

None of us live a life of honor. We are all sinners, and the wages of sin is death. The consequences are heavy. Eternal darkness and torment apart from God. I had to warn you...

Peace.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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Oh, I'm used to it. I have faith in Jesus and I'm OK with what I believe. However, I think you will be mighty uncomfortable when Jesus comes back, and you're in line at the Sheep and Goats judgment and He asks the witches: "What was up with THAT?"

Will you consider the possibility that Jesus is real, loves you, and want you to turn to Him?

Christianity =sheep magick.
Sheep totem people are very disturbed by "black sheep", or, heaven forfend! goats.
Ironically ,goats and sheep share a common ancestry.
Sheep people are also very stupid which is why they need a shepherd.
So stupid they've been known to mistake black cats for black sheep.
Or even black humans for that matter.

sheep
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I don't understand...I'm sorry.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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However, I cannot and will not keep it to myself. The Good News of Jesus is just too good.

None of us live a life of honor. We are all sinners, and the wages of sin is death. The consequences are heavy. Eternal darkness and torment apart from God. I had to warn you...

Peace.
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and therein lies the problem. ye cannot and will not keep it to yerself. the good news of jesus has been death to too many of my ancestors. it ain't good news. we are not all sinners. that culture that advocates original sin is not my culture and i do not participate in the orgy of self flagellation. eternal darkness and torment apart from the creator is the result i see from yer god. yer god shoves itself down throats and refuses to see any other ways. the wages it collects is death. i thank ye for yer concern, but no thank ye. some of us do live a life of honor. ye will be in my thoughts as ye seem a likable sort of folk. i hope one day ye can see that putting on blinders and closing yer eyes to all possibilities just leads to blindness. i had to let ye know where ye were going, ye ken?

peace back at ye.
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Re: The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!
All pagan magick is practiced by believing in a lie. All magick, whether left or right hand path, white or black, is all based upon believing your own lies. And I have all power and all authority over them in Jesus name. Why would anyone chose an inferior religion as this?

And I hate to be the ultimate party pooper, but you are going somewhere, and somewhere soon. It is called the bottomless pit, a lower dimensional prison for the spirits of the locust. Humans practicing witchcraft, they will just go to hell.
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sounds like a party!have fuuuuunn.
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Re: The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!
However, I cannot and will not keep it to myself. The Good News of Jesus is just too good.

None of us live a life of honor. We are all sinners, and the wages of sin is death. The consequences are heavy. Eternal darkness and torment apart from God. I had to warn you...

Peace.

and therein lies the problem. ye cannot and will not keep it to yerself. the good news of jesus has been death to too many of my ancestors. it ain't good news. we are not all sinners. that culture that advocates original sin is not my culture and i do not participate in the orgy of self flagellation. eternal darkness and torment apart from the creator is the result i see from yer god. yer god shoves itself down throats and refuses to see any other ways. the wages it collects is death. i thank ye for yer concern, but no thank ye. some of us do live a life of honor. ye will be in my thoughts as ye seem a likable sort of folk. i hope one day ye can see that putting on blinders and closing yer eyes to all possibilities just leads to blindness. i had to let ye know where ye were going, ye ken?

peace back at ye.
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OK, thank you for your kind thoughts.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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Re: The Official Militant Witch, Wiccan and Pagan Pride Thread; We’re Among You, We’re Here, We’re Not Going Anywhere. Get Used To IT!!
The christians are NOt the only ones to have an adversion to witchcraft. The Romans killed witches. The Native American Indians killed witches and it is a fact that in 19th century a group went to Salem,MA to THANK the citizens of salem for their elimination of witches. So-for openers-your focus on christian opposition exclusively is selective and imbalanced.




Why are witches so opposed and vilified THROUGHOUT the ages ? There IS a good reason. Witchcraft is about empowerment and there is only 2 paths to empowerment,1) The Holy Spirit or 2) spirit(s) plural. Traffic with the latter is condemned in the Bible and for good reason.



Witchcraft is just anothjer face of Shamanism which is a global phenomenon of traffic with and worse,POSSESSION by,evil spirits. Mere proximity to these malevolent things bring sickness and mental illness; as any Haitian practitioner can tell you.American Indians call this "ghost sickness". In other cultures,shamans are feared and often loathed by the populace. In Siberian shamanism it is common for one to commit suicide if one suspects he is "chosen" by the spirits to be a shaman. They know that dissociation and every horror is the lot of the shaman.



In Brittany,the "witchcraft triangle" of the world,witches are INVOLUNTARY witches; people oppressed and possessed by discarnates. This is true in modern Wicca. Many wiccans run afoul of the spirits they initially think they are "communing" with in their ceremonial magic and divination. "Ex-Witch" an online ministry has testimonies of wiccans who have had terrible experiences and were delivered and converted to Christ through their escape from a veritable hell-on-earth.


I have an outreach ministry and personally know three different ex-wiccans,all of whom had oppression/possesion dynamics which led to deliverance in Christ and a hasty departure from their wiccan community which was helpless to drive out the evil discarnates that the indiscriminate wiccan practices had opened a door to,albeit unwittingly.


Divination,a common wiccan practice,can open a door that the wiccans cannot shut because they have exiled themselves from Christ. I was told by Ed Warren,a demonologist,that the majority of his possession cases began with divinatory practice. The famous 1949 case,upon which the movie "The Exorcist" was based,began with divination.



The idea that the opposition to witchcraft has to do with gender discrimination or projected scapegoating is a RED HERRING. The fact of the matter is,people in every generation,Christian and Non -Christian, have recognized the SPIRITUAL TOXICITY of Wicca and pagan shamanistic practices throughout the ages. "White magic" or "Black magic". "Left Hand" or "Right hand" path...it makes no difference. Wicca is a DISTINCT PREFERENCE for the path of traffic with spirit(s) over the path of a baptism by the Holy Spirit of God. It is,in its very essence,IDOLATRY therefore and a blasphemy against God.




Now some wiccans are on a journey,"passing through" wicca on a path to Christ. Many are good people,though seriously and dangerously misled. But in my experience,the ones who truly show "powers" that are preternatural and stay with wicca and become loud-mouthed advocates and anti_Christians; are truly a horse of a different color. They are leading many,often younger,pagans down a dark path and they will have to answer to God for being wolves in shepherd's clothing. The worst judgement I have seen upon these is when they are truly given over to the powers they are in bondage to. I am watching this 'Picture of Dorian Gray" dissolution take place in one wiccan leader of my acquaintance. Very tragic indeed. And again,this is the common path for a shaman. When russian shrinks did a survey of native shamnans back in the 1920's they found they ALL had serious clinical signs of mental illness-the worst curse of all.




I have encountered witchcraft spirits in a girl we are working to deliver. They cause every manner of poltergeist activity,undiagnosable illness,telepathic assault and a host of other things. Their malevolence is extraordinary and they retaliate on every one who has tried to help this woman. but they have to submit to christ jesus every time, i have personally heard these things screaming and howling through her as they were forced to leave. She comes from a Native American shamanistic family who were neck deep in magic practices for generations. She has severe dissociative disorder and bizarre health problems from her exposure to this practice. her house is haunted and she is in a veritable hell.



So you see,it's not just your tacit opposition to Christ Jesus that we Christians don't like about Wicca; it is your unclean spiritual "friends" from hell that we don't like. I have seen their work close up and felt the wrath of their bastardly demon hearts. THESE are what you pagans and wiccans,often unwittingly,welcome into your "circle". i have seen the filthy,toxic fallout they bring to wiccans individually and collectively. So please...don't try to pretend that we Christians are simply being parochial. The TOXIC WASTE of your religion is a threat to every good person. Many non-Christian societies came to the same conclusion.




When the prophecy of Joel is fulfilled and the endtime Spirit of renewal is poured out in a Second Pentecost; i believe many wiccans will have the hideous face of those whom they think are "protecting" guides and spirits revealed for what they truly are...escapees from the spiritual lunatic asylum we know as the kingdom of hell. I expect Ex_Witch and similar ministries will overflow with testimonies of deliverance from bad spirits and true spiritual conversion in Christ. Many of the wiccans of my personal acquiantance are presently like Cornelius in the Book of Acts,good pagans who eventually find their way to Jesus. The other side of the coin,though,is that I expect others to be given over to perfect possession or bondage to these alien things. That will be a hideous thing.




Anyway OP, i found your "read" of what the real issue between Christian and Wiccan to be destructively superficial.Pardon me for saying so.
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So you see,it's not just your tacit opposition to Christ Jesus that we Christians don't like about Wicca; it is your unclean spiritual "friends" from hell that we don't like. I have seen their work close up and felt the wrath of their bastardly demon hearts. THESE are what you pagans and wiccans,often unwittingly,welcome into your "circle". i have seen the filthy,toxic fallout they bring to wiccans individually and collectively. So please...don't try to pretend that we Christians are simply being parochial. The TOXIC WASTE of your religion is a threat to every good person. Many non-Christian societies came to the same conclusion.

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Anyway OP, i found your "read" of what the real issue between Christian and Wiccan to be destructively superficial.Pardon me for saying so.
 Quoting: VAN HELSING, 394628

i have a very short response to yer analysis of witchcraft... bullshit. i have never claimed to be either wiccan, a witch, or a shaman. but yer pseudo analysis reeks of prejudgement and claiming as known facts things which are merely yer opinion or the opinion of someone ye are quoting that just happens to agree with yer view.

and yer "read" of destructively superficial smacks loudly of fear filled judgement on yer part. the creator has never said the words ye put in his/her mouth. nobody died and appointed ye god, so get the fuck of yer high horse and stop condemning anything different from yer head buried in bullshit warped views of what the creator wants from any of us. evil by my definition is claiming to be right in any matters of the spirit and all others to be wrong. for people with yer bullshit attitude this is my response: :granny:





GLP