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I just got this from a good friend who has worked for the Wichita KS-based COLEMAN COMPANY for over 30 years: that they have initiated the most massive layoff in their corporate history which spans nearly a century. The camping equipment giant - a long-time leader in the outdoor industry [and world's largest camping-gear manufacturer]- normally has 650-700 employees on their many production lines churning out their huge array of tents, lanterns, stoves and sleeping bags... virtually anything related to leisure activities; effective today, they have reduced their workforce to a mere 7-10 people in their main manufacturing plant... and, those people are there soley to maintain the equipment in working order if/when they ask their labor force to return. This skeleton crew are checking hydraulic fluid, starting up idle equipment and filling what few orders are still trickling into their shipping department. But, they are basically keeping everything neat and tidy while the huge building sits idle. A skeleton crew are still on the job in the corporate office wing handling accounts receivable/payable and fielding questions from nervous vendors.

This layoff was presented to even long-term employees as "indefinite."

It should also be noted that NOT ONE WORD of this layoff has yet to be reported in the Wichita KS media - a pattern of public silence that Coleman has traditionally followed in times of previous short-term layoffs; however, those layoffs affected only small segments of the production line and not the entire manufacturing base as this one has done... yet, still they remain quiet.
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It should also be noted that NOT ONE WORD of this layoff has yet to be reported in the Wichita KS media
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Which SHOULD be a HUGE WAVING red flag for you, moron!



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That is like Apple Pie and red, white and blue (one of the only truly American institutions).

Yep, gonna get bad and then people will eat their children.
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!
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471491:

You have NO idea what you're talking about... I DO!

I've witnessed many minor layoffs of Coleman during the 30 years my buddy has worked there [he's a LeadMan on their injection-molding line - he cranks out those nifty little jugs and coolers you see everywhere by the thousands - I've even got some very rare weird color combinations from where he'd purge one dye to another and crank out a few limited-editions for friends] and with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS Coleman has ALWAYS kept their layoffs quiet and out of local media. This has been a long-term corporate policy instituted by the Coleman family itself.

So, BITE ME.

And: another poster was correct.. up until just a few years ago, Coleman WAS one of the few remaining family-owned worldclass manufacturers in the United States. First they sold out to Sunbeam [who nearly ruined their reputation] and now they are owned [I think] by an Australian conglomerate.

GOT YOUR TENTS, FOLKS?
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That is like Apple Pie and red, white and blue (one of the only truly American institutions).

Yep, gonna get bad and then people will eat their children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514597

lol
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471491:

You have NO idea what you're talking about... I DO!

I've witnessed many minor layoffs of Coleman during the 30 years my buddy has worked there [he's a LeadMan on their injection-molding line - he cranks out those nifty little jugs and coolers you see everywhere by the thousands - I've even got some very rare weird color combinations from where he'd purge one dye to another and crank out a few limited-editions for friends] and with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS Coleman has ALWAYS kept their layoffs quiet and out of local media. This has been a long-term corporate policy instituted by the Coleman family itself.

So, BITE ME.

And: another poster was correct.. up until just a few years ago, Coleman WAS one of the few remaining family-owned worldclass manufacturers in the United States. First they sold out to Sunbeam [who nearly ruined their reputation] and now they are owned [I think] by an Australian conglomerate.

GOT YOUR TENTS, FOLKS?
 Quoting: gsbltd



i am really surprised that china isn't doing the work, been in the plastics field for a couple of decades myself, we are opening a plant in mexico and china right now

resin costs are killing everybody
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471491:

You have NO idea what you're talking about... I DO!

I've witnessed many minor layoffs of Coleman during the 30 years my buddy has worked there [he's a LeadMan on their injection-molding line - he cranks out those nifty little jugs and coolers you see everywhere by the thousands - I've even got some very rare weird color combinations from where he'd purge one dye to another and crank out a few limited-editions for friends] and with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS Coleman has ALWAYS kept their layoffs quiet and out of local media. This has been a long-term corporate policy instituted by the Coleman family itself.

So, BITE ME.

And: another poster was correct.. up until just a few years ago, Coleman WAS one of the few remaining family-owned worldclass manufacturers in the United States. First they sold out to Sunbeam [who nearly ruined their reputation] and now they are owned [I think] by an Australian conglomerate.

GOT YOUR TENTS, FOLKS?
 Quoting: gsbltd

Didn't the same company buy them that bought Igloo and Rubbermaid?

Igloo and rubbermaid got bought out by some company that ruined them and then sold off their assets.

The theory goes that this is a sinister attempt to take out the last dying embers of America's manufacturing base.

They cut the companies down to prove manufacturing is not feasible in the US.
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!
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I just gave my great old coleman peak 1 aries tent away for free last weekend... how strange. My new Eureka Assault is a monster 4 season...

Your tent, sleeping bag, and clothing are no place to skimp by. you can make yourself a little cooking stove and all that other shit...
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They make useful prep items...not enough people preparing...
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!


I just gave my great old coleman peak 1 aries tent away for free last weekend... how strange. My new Eureka Assault is a monster 4 season...

Your tent, sleeping bag, and clothing are no place to skimp by. you can make yourself a little cooking stove and all that other shit...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501257



f*ck that , do not skimp on anything, i have a jet boil stove and msr water filter, best head lamps,flashlights, fire starters, goretex clothing, best polar fleece, herman survivor boots

i am looking for a good four season tent, i will check out that eureka if you are happy with it
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Oddly enough: we also had a Rubbermaid plant just south of Wichita that closed a few years ago. You could buy those little BlueIce freezer pouches for 20 cents in stores here in town shortly thereafter.

MALU: I just bet the resin costs DID have something to do with this shutdown, but Coleman has also been seriously mismanaged for several years now, too. BTW: I believe the tents, and fabric goods ARE made in China... the only things still popped out here in Wichita are the jugs and stoves and lantern assemblies and the propane bottles they use. Coleman has a separate local filling facility for the propane tanks.

Might be a good time for me to visit the Coleman Outlet store and see what I can pick upon the cheap!!! It's right across from their old, original plant near downtown that had been their HQ for about 75 years; then, when they vacated, guess what? Wichita city inspectors found that the groundwater around the old plant had been seriously contaminated over the years and Coleman had to pay a whopping fine and cover the cleanup costs -millions of dollars worth. And, that beautiful brick turn-of-the-century building still sits there, just a shell and a home for pidgeons. Pretty sad, actually.
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!


I just gave my great old coleman peak 1 aries tent away for free last weekend... how strange. My new Eureka Assault is a monster 4 season...

Your tent, sleeping bag, and clothing are no place to skimp by. you can make yourself a little cooking stove and all that other shit...



f*ck that , do not skimp on anything, i have a jet boil stove and msr water filter, best head lamps,flashlights, fire starters, goretex clothing, best polar fleece, herman survivor boots

i am looking for a good four season tent, i will check out that eureka if you are happy with it
 Quoting: malu


Definitely Malu, the eureka assault is issued to marines for desert or arctic...

I don't skimp either... I prefer the msr pocket rocket myself with all the best that I have been upgrading for years.

Just sayin' for those city folk who haven't anything yet, start with a good tent, bag, and clothes...
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!


I just gave my great old coleman peak 1 aries tent away for free last weekend... how strange. My new Eureka Assault is a monster 4 season...

Your tent, sleeping bag, and clothing are no place to skimp by. you can make yourself a little cooking stove and all that other shit...



f*ck that , do not skimp on anything, i have a jet boil stove and msr water filter, best head lamps,flashlights, fire starters, goretex clothing, best polar fleece, herman survivor boots

i am looking for a good four season tent, i will check out that eureka if you are happy with it


Definitely Malu, the eureka assault is issued to marines for desert or arctic...

I don't skimp either... I prefer the msr pocket rocket myself with all the best that I have been upgrading for years.

Just sayin' for those city folk who haven't anything yet, start with a good tent, bag, and clothes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501257



oh i hear ya, wasn't trying to give you a hard time, i just hate it when something doesn't work while in the woods, don't have much room for error

i will definitely look into that tent, off to google :)

btw: i am after that pocket rocket myself, great stove, other one was a gift
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The only thing about a stove, even the rocket is you have to have fuel...

The canisters last forever and I've stocked up on a dozen or so, but I'll be using a woodstove in no time at all if the shit hits.
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They make useful prep items...not enough people preparing...
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Sadly, not enough people even know how to use the majority of their items other than coolers and the like. Considering the reports that less people are hunting and fishing, I am sure that number also includes outdoor types who camp. I doubt many people today could set up an older pup-tent without the fancy "pop" up systems they have now. I doubt many people even know how to build a basic lean-to for shelter with a tarp let alone natural materials. I buy outdoor gear every time I get the chance to do so and store it away for future needs. Usually can get this stuff on sale past few years as no one is buying it and they need to clear out their stock for the junk that is selling like cell phones.

Mike
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They make useful prep items...not enough people preparing...



Sadly, not enough people even know how to use the majority of their items other than coolers and the like. Considering the reports that less people are hunting and fishing, I am sure that number also includes outdoor types who camp. I doubt many people today could set up an older pup-tent without the fancy "pop" up systems they have now. I doubt many people even know how to build a basic lean-to for shelter with a tarp let alone natural materials. I buy outdoor gear every time I get the chance to do so and store it away for future needs. Usually can get this stuff on sale past few years as no one is buying it and they need to clear out their stock for the junk that is selling like cell phones.

Mike
 Quoting: MD 353953


Yep...I still remember setting up the canvas shelter halves in the army...they had wooden tent poles...I got quite a collection of outdoors gear....used to work as a buyer for a major hiking/camping/climbing shop...top of the line stuff...Northface, moss tents, Marmot jackets,etc....Lot of it was promo stuff I get for free or cheap from company reps...Some odd ball stuff too...I got an external frame "trailwise" pack as used by Colin Fletcher in "the complete walker" book...took a while to hunt down that discontinued pack...I also got a prototype Northface Camo goretex bivy bag....gotta have gear...
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I'm writing a news story on these layoffs and am having a hard time pulling together information. Could somebody with facts or contacts please contact me:
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WICHITA KS

I just got this from a good friend who has worked for the Wichita KS-based COLEMAN COMPANY for over 30 years: that they have initiated the most massive layoff in their corporate history which spans nearly a century. The camping equipment giant - a long-time leader in the outdoor industry [and world's largest camping-gear manufacturer]- normally has 650-700 employees on their many production lines churning out their huge array of tents, lanterns, stoves and sleeping bags... virtually anything related to leisure activities; effective today, they have reduced their workforce to a mere 7-10 people in their main manufacturing plant... and, those people are there soley to maintain the equipment in working order if/when they ask their labor force to return. This skeleton crew are checking hydraulic fluid, starting up idle equipment and filling what few orders are still trickling into their shipping department. But, they are basically keeping everything neat and tidy while the huge building sits idle. A skeleton crew are still on the job in the corporate office wing handling accounts receivable/payable and fielding questions from nervous vendors.

This layoff was presented to even long-term employees as "indefinite."

It should also be noted that NOT ONE WORD of this layoff has yet to be reported in the Wichita KS media - a pattern of public silence that Coleman has traditionally followed in times of previous short-term layoffs; however, those layoffs affected only small segments of the production line and not the entire manufacturing base as this one has done... yet, still they remain quiet.
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First of all, the date of the actual termination of the jobs is 12/31/09, NOT right now. The employees were all given letter/info packets on 10/01/09, so this is a 90 day notice. Also, the parent company of Coleman is Jarden, they are NOT owned by the same company who owns Igloo or Rubbermaid. The company is opening a new warehouse facility near Kansas City, & all imported items (90% of everything is imported) will be shipped out of there instead of the Wichita warehouse. The layoffs are happening to the warehouse/shipping workers NOT any of the manufacturing workers. The company hasn't even posted any job bids for the new warehouse facility. People, get the facts straight before you post anything. Also, please BOYCOTT Coleman products instead of seeing if you can get something cheaper now...
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As Coleman goes - so goes a nation.
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Bad timming when a lot of people are loosing there houses and setin up camp sites to live. Bigger picture here?
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!
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cruise lmao lol
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that's pretty hilarious, imagine the profits they will lose when we are all living in tent cities and need their shit!

cruise lmao lol
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Quite possibly the funniest post I have read in a while.

lmao
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Coleman is of the devil
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I worked for Coleman for a number of years. They have lacked management vision for years. Frankly, I am surprised they have held on this long.
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I'm only a temp and working conditions are horrible. A total of 40 minutes of breaks, not legal, where is the other 20 minutes. We are worked like Hebrew slaves for shitty pay. If I wanted to be fucked in the ass I would have been a gay porn star, not a Coleman employee. I wonder if Coleman's fluffer position has been filled.
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I'm only a temp and working conditions are horrible. A total of 40 minutes of breaks, not legal, where is the other 20 minutes. We are worked like Hebrew slaves for shitty pay. If I wanted to be fucked in the ass I would have been a gay porn star, not a Coleman employee. I wonder if Coleman's fluffer position has been filled.
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THIS THREAD IS FROM 2008 YOU MORON



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It should also be noted that NOT ONE WORD of this layoff has yet to be reported in the Wichita KS media
 Quoting: gsbltd


Which SHOULD be a HUGE WAVING red flag for you, moron!



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Did it make you feel good to do that? I mean really? REALLY? How old are you? Do you not get enough attention from your parents?
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Maybe commies shut them down to force more citizens into FEMA CAMPS when TSHTF.
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