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How can I recognize a false teacher / false prophet?

 
Dread Pirate Roberts
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How can I recognize a false teacher / false prophet?
I felt it was important to share how to spot a false prophet. There are a lot of people on forums and boards and in the news and in life who go around saying they have the ear or mouth of Christ or who say they have true visions (including me). Some are false and some are true. Test all! Decide for yourself!

This is the era of mocking and falling away and falsity spoken of in the bible. But is is also the era when Joel said in 2:28 in the last days--

"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions"

So how to tell which is which? False from true? I thought I'd share how best to arm yourself with knowledge and learn to sift through the false teachers. I did not write the below but the link is there to visit the page of who did. This is part one. There are a couple of other parts coming in the next few days. Peace and thanks for reading
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"How can I recognize a false teacher / false prophet?"
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Answer: Jesus warned us that “false Christs and false prophets” will come and will attempt to deceive even God’s elect (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). To best guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers - know the truth. To spot a counterfeit, study the real thing. Any believer who is, “rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15), and who makes a careful study of the Bible, can identify false doctrine. For example, a believer who has read the activities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Matthew 3:16-17 will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity. Therefore, “step one” is to study the Bible and judge all teaching by what the scripture says.

Jesus said “a tree is known by his fruit” (Matthew 12:33). When looking for “fruit,” here are three specific tests to apply to any teacher to determine the accuracy of his or her teaching:

1) What does this teacher say about Jesus? In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks, “Whom say ye that I am?” Peter answers, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,” and for this answer Peter is called “blessed.” In 2 John 9, we read, “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” In other words, Jesus Christ and His work of redemption is of utmost importance; beware anyone who denies that Jesus is equal with God, who downplays Jesus’ substitutionary death, or who rejects Jesus’ humanity. First John 2:22 says, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

2) Does this teacher preach the gospel? The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection, according to the scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements “God loves you,” “God wants us to feed the hungry,” and “God wants you to be wealthy” are NOT the complete message of the gospel. As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, “There be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.” No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. “If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

3) Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord? Speaking of false teachers, Jude 11 says, “They have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah.” In other words, a false teacher can be known by his pride (Cain’s rejection of God’s plan), greed (Balaam’s prophesying for money), and rebellion (Korah’s promotion of himself over Moses).

For further study, review those books of the Bible that were written specifically to combat false teaching within the church: Galatians, 2 Peter, 2 John, and Jude. It is often difficult to spot a false teacher / false prophet. That is what a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” is all about. Satan and his demons masquerade as “angels of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14), and his ministers masquerade as servants of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15). Only by being thoroughly familiar with the truth will we be able to recognize a counterfeit./
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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By their fruits you shall know them.
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By their fruits you shall know them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 465333

so true! thank you for reading. The issue of how to spot good fruits and bad fruits will be part two...but harder to spot on a forum than in real life to be sure

PS THANK YOU for the vote
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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Any one who APPEARS to you... in any form..... is a PROJECTION form SELF.

They are YOU.... if their PROOHET is FALSE... then it is FALSE within you... as you would NEVER find anything out there... that is not WITHIN - YOU.... in-there.

Choose your thoughts wisely...

Ask and the TRUTH will be given to you...

Seek and you shall find.

But if your HUMAN EGO is involed... you will see the ASPECTS "OF SELF" that will take you AWAY from the GLORY of GOD within.....

It is all game....... REALIZE that... and be at peace for ever.
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Any one who APPEARS to you... in any form..... is a PROJECTION form SELF.

They are YOU.... if their PROOHET is FALSE... then it is FALSE within you... as you would NEVER find anything out there... that is not WITHIN - YOU.... in-there.

Choose your thoughts wisely...

Ask and the TRUTH will be given to you...

Seek and you shall find.

But if your HUMAN EGO is involed... you will see the ASPECTS "OF SELF" that will take you AWAY from the GLORY of GOD within.....

It is all game....... REALIZE that... and be at peace for ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433665

It is my opinion that we are all unique individuals created individually by God. That there are people who are these unique individuals going around saying false things about God or on behalf of God. They are not me, they are them. Each responsible for their own actions. Each will be judged at the end, Christians and non-Christians alike.

If what you say is true then we'd all be judged the same as one person. And that is not going to happen. So I disagree with that part of your statement
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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By their fruits you shall know them.

so true! thank you for reading. The issue of how to spot good fruits and bad fruits will be part two...but harder to spot on a forum than in real life to be sure

PS THANK YOU for the vote
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Yeah, it's impossible to tell on a forum where you don't know the person, you can't meet them face to face and see their life in action. So you have to have discernment.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim "seed" are TPTB.

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By their fruits you shall know them.

so true! thank you for reading. The issue of how to spot good fruits and bad fruits will be part two...but harder to spot on a forum than in real life to be sure

PS THANK YOU for the vote


Yeah, it's impossible to tell on a forum where you don't know the person, you can't meet them face to face and see their life in action. So you have to have discernment.
 Quoting: Michelle

Yes, so I focus on the words they say and whether those words are consistent with the words that God and Jesus gave us. That part is easier to do on a forum, especially since the words are recorded and can be reviewed at leisure.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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ON THIS SITE THEY HAVE BRIGHT BLUE UNDERLINED NAMES
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ON THIS SITE THEY HAVE BRIGHT BLUE UNDERLINED NAMES
 Quoting: THE REAL ANON COW!!!! 276066

including me? Test my words against the bible. let me know if I am coming up wanting
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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Bad spellers are usually false prophets
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pay attention to the message, not the messenger.
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Bad spellers are usually false prophets
 Quoting: ANOMALIA

bad spelling drive me crazy too. Right or wrong, I discount anyone who spells 'judgement'. I figure a prophet/preacher/teacher should know how to spell one of the most important things in the bible related to the end times!

Once I read a blog entry from someone who spelled 'heven'. Oy.

Lots of times though the words misspelled are a typo. I am bad at typos. I try really hard at my typing but seems I can't catch them all that I make

However, on the Rapture Ready site they make a lot of mistakes related to homonyms: "horde" for 'hoard' for example. Those drive me crazy too. Misspelling and incorrect usage are so rampant everywhere that unless it's egregious, I do what the poster above says, pay attention to the message not the spelling (Like the Rapture Ready site, they are good guys)
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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When a community is composed of honest, sober and virtuous people, your forming a bad opinion about anyone of its members, when nothing wicked has been seen of him, is a great injustice to him. On the contrary in a corrupt society to form good opinion of anyone of them and to trust him is to harm yourself.

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Yes, so I focus on the words they say and whether those words are consistent with the words that God and Jesus gave us.
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

This is Wrong! However, its what most everybody does: That is; compare what you are hearing, to what you think you already know!

And doing this, only helps to reinforce the false learning that you have already aligned yourself with!

Look, we are children of the "LIE".......and in order to free ourselves from that condition, we must be willing to let go of what we think we already know, and open ourselves to new ideas and concepts! Otherwise, you will be forever stuck in the rut of someone else's projection......IMO!
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Look in the mirror.
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when they ask for money
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if they are in a human body
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By his or her deeds. The only way to serve God is to serve his people.24/7
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Easy.

As soon as they mention "pre-trib rapture", you'll know that they are false.
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there'll be a fig-leaf or something over their dangly bits
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Person that talk's like this :


"People of Berlin – people of the world – this is our moment. This is our time. ... With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again."
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"How can I recognize a false teacher "

I thought this was going to be a PTA thread or something.

lol
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When the doors are locked in a building that could shelter people from the cold. When they take in all this money in the name of helping children in africa(America has the largest foster care system in the world. When people are left hungry. It's time Pay Attention! The false Prophet/Teachers should be exposed, they are not hiding they do their work in our face. Do Not be a respecter of persons just because you like someone doesn't mean they are right.
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my quickest way to tell...if someone comes on here chatting up their status..... it's a sure indication....
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Yes, so I focus on the words they say and whether those words are consistent with the words that God and Jesus gave us.
This is Wrong! However, its what most everybody does: That is; compare what you are hearing, to what you think you already know!

And doing this, only helps to reinforce the false learning that you have already aligned yourself with!

Look, we are children of the "LIE".......and in order to free ourselves from that condition, we must be willing to let go of what we think we already know, and open ourselves to new ideas and concepts! Otherwise, you will be forever stuck in the rut of someone else's projection......IMO!
 Quoting: voice 525037


the first rule of detecting a false prophet is to know the bible. So that when you hear a teaching or a preaching, if the teaching or preaching says anything different from the bible, you know it's false.

Is this what you were saying?
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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Easy.

As soon as they mention "pre-trib rapture", you'll know that they are false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453510

there is scriptural basis for interpreting pre-trib, mid-trib, and post-trib. Rather than accuse Christians who vary in timing of the same biblical event that they all will agree will occur anyway, we should be encouraging one another, building each other up (1Thess 5:11) and looking outward for the ravening wolves in sheep's clothing so as to protect one another from falling away. In my opinion, this is a better approach.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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"How can I recognize a false teacher "

I thought this was going to be a PTA thread or something.

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2108

I think the same applications would hold true: if they stray from the authorized curriculum, if they produce rotten fruits, if they lie or twist the teaching to a personal agenda or a political agenda...all good ways to detect a good teacher from a false one
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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They're often chatty, arrogant, claim to know everything and appear shallow to a mature person. They very often use fear to promote their message.

Examples: GWB, Cheney, Karl Rove, Condor, Rumsfeld, etc.
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They're all false.
When the real prophet/messiah arrives there will be no doubt in anyone's mind.
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my quickest way to tell...if someone comes on here chatting up their status..... it's a sure indication....
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited

I do not understand what you mean by chatting up their status? You mean like "Oh, I am so rich..." that kind of status?
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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They're all false.
When the real prophet/messiah arrives there will be no doubt in anyone's mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525128

I think it's harder and harder to spot the real ones. But the bible does say that in the end times there will be real prophets...Joel 2:28
And afterwards, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

halelujah that we will have this debate forever put to rest when the real Messiah comes!
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17





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