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OBAMA CALLS 4 PLAN TO DISARM MILITARY ~ B .FRANK CALLS FOR IMMEDIATE MASSIVE 25% CUT TO CRIPLE US ARMED FORCES

 
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October 24, 2008 6:00 AM


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NEW BEDFORD — After the November election, Democrats will push for a second economic stimulus package that includes money for the states' stalled infrastructure projects, along with help paying for healthcare expenses, food stamps and extended unemployment benefits, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank said Thursday.

In a meeting with the editorial board of The Standard-Times, Rep. Frank, D-Mass., also called for a 25 percent cut in military spending, saying the Pentagon has to start choosing from its many weapons programs, and that upper-income taxpayers are going to see an increase in what they are asked to pay.

The military cuts also mean getting out of Iraq sooner, he said.

"The people of Iraq want us out, and we want to stay over their objection," he said. "It's extraordinary." The Maliki government in Iraq "can't sell (the withdrawal deal with the U.S.) because it sounds like we're going to stay too long."

"I was teasing (U.S. Rep.) Jack Murtha (a key supporter of military budgets) and I said to him, 'For the first time, somebody else has got a bill that's almost as big as yours.' We don't need all these fancy new weapons. I think there needs to be additional review."

Rep. Frank called on President Bush to appoint a senior official to guide the economic stimulus packages through the transition to the Barack Obama or John McCain administration when it takes office in January.

And he said that if the Democrats can't find an adequate agreement on a stimulus package in the lame-duck Congress, they would rather wait until the new Congress takes over — likely with many more Democrats, if polling results bear fruit in the November voting.

The new package, he said, will be aimed at easing fears about lending and investing. "The psychological problem is even worse than the real problem," he said.

"There is money to lend and projects worth borrowing money to do. But people are afraid to lend. That's what we're trying to unfreeze."

States have many infrastructure projects — bridges, highways, etc. — that have been shut down because of a cash-flow problems, he said. So it is not the case that a stimulus will take months or years to wait for design and approval, since projects are already in progress or ready to go.

Also, he said, "we'll increase the federal share of medical care so states won't have to lay off people." Unemployment insurance benefits won't increase, he said, but the period of collecting them will, and eligibility requirements might be relaxed.

And, ultimately, there will be tax increases on the upper brackets. "We'll have to raise taxes ultimately. Not now, but eventually," he said.
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Obama on the military:

Grow size of military to maintain rotation schedules: Favors topic 15
Give our soldiers the best equipment and training available: Favors topic 15
Sponsored bill for Iraq budget to be part of defense budget: Opposes topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15

Barack Obama on Foreign Policy

* FactCheck: Campaign prevented committee meetings, not rules. (Sep 2008)
* In Cold War, we won hearts & minds; now do same to world. (Jul 2008)
* Dangers of intertwined world can't be contained in borders. (Jul 2008)
* Important to undo the damage of the last seven years. (Feb 2008)
* Never negotiate out of fear, and never fear to negotiate. (Jan 2008)
* President must abide by international human rights treaties. (Dec 2007)
* Obama Doctrine: ideology has overridden facts and reality. (Dec 2007)
* No Obama Doctrine; just democracy, security, liberty. (Oct 2007)
* $50B annually to strengthen weak states at risk of collapse. (Aug 2007)
* No "strategic ambiguity" on foreign policy issues. (Aug 2007)
* My critics engineered our biggest foreign policy disaster. (Aug 2007)
* Meet with enemy leaders; it's a disgrace that we have not. (Jul 2007)
* We cannot afford isolationism. (Mar 2007)
* Never has US had so much power & so little influence to lead. (Jul 2004)
* US policy should promote democracy and human rights. (Jul 2004)
The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/
The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/
The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/
Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/
Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/
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Johnson, did hear somebody say something? I thought I heard some mumbling from over there in the corner.

Actually, sir, the voice came from outside.

Well, for God's sake Johnson, who is out there?

Sir, it seems to be the local lunatic, raving about the Anti-Christ.

This will not do, Johnson, not do at all. It's impossible for me to concentrate on the Plan with all of that racket out there.

I agree wholeheatedly, sir. But what can we do? The lunatic surely has a right to keep ranting.

What we can do, Johnson, is something we should have done five minutes ago. Do you see the button over there? No, the other one. No, above that. The yellow one. For the love of God, Johnson, press that button. Hurry, there is no time to lose!

RETARDED THREAD ALERT!
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PACNWguy stfu Idiot!!!!!!!!
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Pac-Todd at it again already after his last thread!!!
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Is this guy a fucking fool or is he, Powell and Madam Alright telling the truth?

If he is a fool, why is he on the ticket as the VP?

If they are telling the truth, why isnt anyone listening?


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This is ridiculous - SO WHAT

Let it be cut - And be more in line with the rest of the world.

Why do we think everyone wants to destroy us? If they do why is that so? Think about it. More military and bombs is not a solution - it is the problem.

We have more military and spend more than ALL OTHER NATIONS COMBINED. That is not a nation for peace. It has bankrupted us. Other nations can feed and give medical care to citizens because they are not spending themselves into poverty with bombs to blow up goat hurders and wedding parties in the mountains of Asia.

Sned the boys home to make babies, cut the budget and mind our own business.

Then we can pay our debts and get things back to basics.
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Wow! based on your headline alone, I'd vote for Obama! Awesome! thanks for pointing that out. I thought he wanted to do the opposite. I thought he was a warmonger just like McCain. Thanks for letting me know there is a difference!
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A cut would not cripple the armed forces. A plan to study where the money is going, re-budget and restructure the archaic system in place and begin an effective foreign relations policy would cut the spending and strengthen our defense program. We are wasting lives and livings in a blind rush for war. We have to deconstruct the beast that military spending has become. Obama is the only way we can begin this arduous process.
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Obama is a big fat lier cant and wont do anything he says

Leave Iraq and Iran will come in having than more oil than any other nation

they will build nukes also

obama would distroy the economy by taxing corperations forcing than loss of jobs

and you will pay more for food

rent

GAS

EVERYTHING

NO OBAMA

He is a good salesman, but its a bill of lies

IF IT SOUND TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IS IS
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Is this guy a fucking fool or is he, Powell and Madam Alright telling the truth?

If he is a fool, why is he on the ticket as the VP?

If they are telling the truth, why isnt anyone listening?


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So Peanut.

Would you mind telling us where this $700 or $800 or $900 billion you want for the war machine is going to come from?

Just let us in on that, willya?





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