I think I just spotted a shift in REALITY... a blip in the MATRIX, etc etc

i could SWEAR this guy died back in the 90's:

[link to www.plemongello.com]

I don't remember what he died of..er, didn't die of, lol...does anyone else?



I only remember a tribute to him by Dan Rather. This was a few years ago.

IMO, when these shifts happen, you might loose some detail.

But those that remember Cronkite being dead just know it.

Dude-it's always been the 3rd Thursday. This is very strange.

All I ever remember is it being on the fourth Thursday. (I'm in my 50's.)

I also remember Jane Goodall dying, sometime in the 80's; how about you? (That seems to be split about 50/50.)


I'm with you on Jane Goodall. I was in school and remember the teacher mentioning it.

As for Thanksgiving, there were people in my office that were as adamant about it being on the 4th Thursday as we were about the 3rd...

Who the hell knows. My sense of reality just keeps getting chipped away at.

[link to www.pbs.org]

Holy crap- this is NOT how it happened. The people running in and pulling him to safety look CGIed in.


It's been almost two years since I've watched this, watching it then not knowing what I know now because of my research and pushing my envelope of understanding and comprehension of all the elements involved to its hilt.

Segment 6, titled The Struggle to Control Information, now does more to give me a huge pause for thought than it ever could've before.

The young Bejing University students not even knowing what the picture of the Tank Man was about. One of them even asked if it was art. Good grief.

During the 11th minute of that segment, after the info/Congressional Hearing about Internet providers being party to Chinese censorship, the narrator states, "...but the technology is already there. It has helped the Tank Man disappear." No kidding.

And no, I don't normally take words out of context to make a point, but I do this time just because it is such a definitive point in and of itself.

And listen to John Passmore at about 13:20. Listen to what he has to say. Un-freaking-real.

And at about 15:35 the dialogue goes silent because ABC wouldn't allow the Barbara Walters interview to be aired on the Internet...huh? What? WHY?

Jiang Zemin states, "I think this young man maybe not killed by the tank."

...wait a minute, throughout the whole PBS program and all other stipulations about what happened to the Tank Man after he was purported spirited off the street, I've not heard or read one remark on the Internet/historical recordings about his maybe or maybe not being killed by the tank. Possibly executed by the Chinese gov't., yes, but not anything that brings his being run over into any kind of focus.

How did that revelatory "blip" make it through? It's one little sentence that speaks volumes, in my estimation. Zemin makes two more comments following questions from Walters, and the screen displays,

"This was the last official statement ever on the subject."

I'll tell ya, the silence in those few moments of the whole documentary, and that one lone sentence from Zemin in that eeire silence, made me to sit up prone, my flesh stinging, and myself taking a swift double take. I rewound it because I was just that surprised by the statement. It felt like an silent explosion of truth revealed.

They all wonder where he disappeared to, what happened to him, how can they ever know...it's all a great "mystery," they agree.

He can't be found because he's dead.

I earlier in this thread stipulated about whether or not this timeline discrepancy was part of the natural flow of timeline shifting or a manipulated timeline discrepancy. I now fully set aside the natural flow theory with regard to this one. The information this PBS program revealed about post-Tiananmen-Square-economic-China makes it obvious.

I suppose the only questions left begged are: how would changing this one aspect of the event have affected China had it of not been changed? Could it have made that much difference in China's now economic windfall? Could that one Tank Man event left as it was, with him being run over, actually have desisted China from rising to the world power it is today? Was manipulating and changing that event the key to the keyhole of China's rise to power?

It would indeed explain why the event would have to be changed. There was already so much murder and mayhem in the streets of Bejing June 3rd and 4th, 1989...why single this one aspect of the terror out...and they did. All so many people remembering otherwise cannot be wrong, nor deluded. At all.

As a side note--yesterday at work I commented to a customer how attractive her gloves were, and asked if they were Kit Leather. She turned the glove edge up to read the inside label. "I should've known," she quipped. We both at the same time said, "Made in China."

After a momentary pause I commented, "China is buying and owning this country from the inside out." She agreed. We just looked at each other. It was rather a poignant moment.

Am I making a mountain out of a molehill? Could the coverup of one man's death play such a pivotal role in world governance and economics?

These are rhetorical questions that leave an uneasy feeling within myself as an answer.


Thanks AC 539001 for posting this. I surely would've gotten around to watching it again, but it's all the better I did so today.

All I ever remember is it being on the fourth Thursday. (I'm in my 50's.)

I also remember Jane Goodall dying, sometime in the 80's; how about you? (That seems to be split about 50/50.)

All I ever remember is it being on the fourth Thursday. (I'm in my 50's.)

I also remember Jane Goodall dying, sometime in the 80's; how about you? (That seems to be split about 50/50.)


I'm with you on Jane Goodall. I was in school and remember the teacher mentioning it.

As for Thanksgiving, there were people in my office that were as adamant about it being on the 4th Thursday as we were about the 3rd...

Who the hell knows. My sense of reality just keeps getting chipped away at.

... sorry there OP, but I've always only known it to be on the 4th Thursday here in the states.


Thanks... this just has been weird...

... sorry there OP, but I've always only known it to be on the 4th Thursday here in the states.


Thanks... this just has been weird...



I'm with you. I always thought it was the 3rd Thursday, just as I thought Walter Cronkite died years ago....

... sorry there OP, but I've always only known it to be on the 4th Thursday here in the states.


Thanks... this just has been weird...



I'm with you. I always thought it was the 3rd Thursday, just as I thought Walter Cronkite died years ago....

thanksgiving was always 3rd thurs and yes he died 11 years ago.

... sorry there OP, but I've always only known it to be on the 4th Thursday here in the states.


Thanks... this just has been weird...



I'm with you. I always thought it was the 3rd Thursday, just as I thought Walter Cronkite died years ago....

thanksgiving was always 3rd thurs and yes he died 11 years ago.


If he died 11 years ago, then why are there pinned threads about his recent passing? I am shocked to see them. I thought he was long gone

i don't remember ever hearing that billy graham died.

He's definatly been dead. He is still alive though. If you only see him as being alive then you are only able to see the updated reality.

In my timeline, Thanksgiving was always the next-to-last Thursday in November.

That being said, also "in my timeline", Cronkite died at least 3 times, Ed McMahon a couple, Arthur C. Clarke a few times, Mickey Rooney is long dead and tank man got run over.

Go figure.

Don't tell me Graham is alive now. I remember his death clearly. It was a big deal where I used to live because "The Cove" training center was there. (I lived in Asheville, NC).