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Darkman

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Gardening Question #1: Should I prepare a raised bed for my veggies? And why or why not? What do those that use raised beds use as a border?

Question #2: Can I plant fruit trees in the Winter? I am in Atlanta. How big should/can they be when I plant them?

Yes, I am in the stocking up stage for gerdening books but I would like to take advantage of the massive collective knowledge on this board, while we still can. I have my heritage seeds. I hear they are hard to grow. No matter.

Any other questions or comments are welcome.
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12/16/2008 10:37 AM
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Mother Earth News is an excellent magazine - that has a great website. Give it a visit.

Also research "square foot gardening."

Composting takes a while, but is awesome stuff.

Good luck.
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I made a raised bed garden and used direct grade PT wood and landscape fabric. 1st season having an organic garden and the tomatoe plants were six feet tall and 3 feet wide!!!!
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Oh yeah- forgot to add. If you use wood make sure it hasn't been treated with chemicals. You don't want them to leach into your garden soil.
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Good stuff so far...keep it coming. I have been composting in preparation for spring planting. I want to start preparing the garden itself now.

Enaid, I'm off to that website now.

Is now the time to plant fruit trees? I'm itching to plant something.

Thanks all.
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12/16/2008 11:21 AM
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Good stuff so far...keep it coming. I have been composting in preparation for spring planting. I want to start preparing the garden itself now.

Enaid, I'm off to that website now.

Is now the time to plant fruit trees? I'm itching to plant something.

Thanks all.
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I wouldn't plant fruit trees. Last year I planted lemons and satsumas, and even protecting them I think they bit the dust when we had a snow storm last week.. six inches in Louisiana that stuck for two days.

If you buy trees now, you should keep them in pots indoors for the duration of the winter.
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12/16/2008 11:25 AM

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Good stuff so far...keep it coming. I have been composting in preparation for spring planting. I want to start preparing the garden itself now.

Enaid, I'm off to that website now.

Is now the time to plant fruit trees? I'm itching to plant something.

Thanks all.



I wouldn't plant fruit trees. Last year I planted lemons and satsumas, and even protecting them I think they bit the dust when we had a snow storm last week.. six inches in Louisiana that stuck for two days.

If you buy trees now, you should keep them in pots indoors for the duration of the winter.
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thanks!
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12/16/2008 11:36 AM
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I plan on having a potted garden on my balcony this summer.

For the time being, I'm really wanting to start growing some herbs indoors. Definitely some basil, chives and cilantro, and some other types maybe. The only problem is, the only decent window I have faces North and I have a feeling this isn't a good spot to get maximum sun exposure in the winter. I also have a really small window that faces east.

Anyone know which one window would be better to grow my plants at?
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12/16/2008 11:43 AM
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re - gardening in pots --

My experience is this. I love terra cotta pots. But, they dry out the dirt real fast when they are in the sunshine. I also know that tomatoes can be fussy in pots sometimes. I've been told by old time gardeners they don't like cold water sprayed on their leaves. Also they don't like the dirt in the pot to get really dry.

I have much better luck in the soil. Guess I don't pay enough attention to the potted plants soil moisture. -shrugs-
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Mother Earth News is an excellent magazine - that has a great website. Give it a visit.

Also research "square foot gardening."

Composting takes a while, but is awesome stuff.

Good luck.
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Square foot gardening is the easiest, cheapest, and most productive method for a backyard garden. I highly recommend you start with the square foot gardening book written by the creator of the method, Mel Bartholomew. It spells it all out for you.
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Oh yeah- forgot to add. If you use wood make sure it hasn't been treated with chemicals. You don't want them to leach into your garden soil.
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If you're serious about growing I would suggest building a small greenhouse about 10 ft long by 5 ft wide with a concrete slab under the soil and a concrete border around the perimeter of the soil that rises above the soil. They was you can eliminate unwanted influences (like bugs) and have a controlled laboratory environment to grow in year round.
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This project is getting pretty big already. I think I just need some railroad ties (untreated) to surround the garden and built it up with soil lusciousness. What say ye?
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12/16/2008 02:16 PM
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Want to plant now?

Sure....... Plant some cold season crops. Man, I wish I lived more south so I could do more cold season gardening.

Lettuce, onions, kale, cabbage etc are cold season crops.

Get at it dude!
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12/16/2008 02:19 PM
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I used 12" boards for my sq ft garden that I used to have. You need to be about that deep for the correct soil depth.
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Gardening Question #1: Should I prepare a raised bed for my veggies? And why or why not? What do those that use raised beds use as a border?

Question #2: Can I plant fruit trees in the Winter? I am in Atlanta. How big should/can they be when I plant them?

Yes, I am in the stocking up stage for gerdening books but I would like to take advantage of the massive collective knowledge on this board, while we still can. I have my heritage seeds. I hear they are hard to grow. No matter.

Any other questions or comments are welcome.
 Quoting: Darkman



yes you should use raised beds... use plastic lumber or treated lumber, as regular pine will be eaten by termites in a year or two...

WINTER is the time to plant fruit trees. There are some great nurseries that will sell you bare root trees...

You can order now...

seeds need good dirt, water and fertilizer if your soil is not very rich in organic matter...

start collecting all the leaves you can for compost...
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Good stuff so far...keep it coming. I have been composting in preparation for spring planting. I want to start preparing the garden itself now.

Enaid, I'm off to that website now.

Is now the time to plant fruit trees? I'm itching to plant something.

Thanks all.



I wouldn't plant fruit trees. Last year I planted lemons and satsumas, and even protecting them I think they bit the dust when we had a snow storm last week.. six inches in Louisiana that stuck for two days.

If you buy trees now, you should keep them in pots indoors for the duration of the winter.
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I grow all my citrus in containers as it gets too cold in the USA except in South Texas and Florida...

the time to plant apples and all those types IS DURING WINTER>..

google bare root fruit trees...
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Do NOT use treated lumber for raised beds. Use cedar. it costs more but, will last longer and you should be better off in the long run moneywise.
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12/16/2008 02:41 PM
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Do NOT use treated lumber for raised beds. Use cedar. it costs more but, will last longer and you should be better off in the long run moneywise.
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you use anything untreated in the south, you will replace the boards every year or two...
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I had limited space too for next spring. Im going to grow potatoes in cut out tires.

Look up potato tires. You can raise the plants up with each new tire and dirt. Knock the tires over once its fully grown and you have a ton of potatoes.
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I love my raised beds. I tend 5 but my whole yard is edible. I like gardening both ways but beds are easier for weeding, covering in cold weather and turning.

I grow my herbs in the ground not beds, they are very ornimental, nummy and keep the pesky moles away. Actually everything that returns annually or I want to seed I've placed in the ground. Strawberries make a great ground cover - if you have a bare area they are great for that.

Things I learned the hard way about raised beds-
1. Use grass clippings and/or hay to keep them moist since they tend to dry out faster than then ground.
2. Some plants get really large so allow for growth or you will not get yeild.
3. Grow in short rows or in groups to allow easier access to the plants. Most plants produce more than you think so there is no need to plant in excess unless you can store it.
4. If you gotta dig to harvest, plant like plants together.

I'm in the PNW so I can't say much about trees - they need to be planted here in the fall but I don't know if that will be the same for you.

I don't know if I'm putting these pictures in right - hope they work. If they don't the words that would describe them is ..you can do a lot with a small space.


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[link to www.latimes.com]

directions for no dig gardening.
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The new PT boards do not have the harsh chemicals anymore at least the posion kind. Also you can buy the boards now and let them dry out by spring time, you will be fine.
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12/16/2008 05:58 PM

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The new PT boards do not have the harsh chemicals anymore at least the posion kind. Also you can buy the boards now and let them dry out by spring time, you will be fine.
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I want to prepare the beds now so I don't want to wait until Spring. I want to put in my compost I've collected and some compost from the County so I can fill a raised bed. There will be a lot of organic material in there.
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The new PT boards do not have the harsh chemicals anymore at least the posion kind. Also you can buy the boards now and let them dry out by spring time, you will be fine.
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he's right...

I have over 40 citrus trees in containers, and two large raised beds and plan to order another dump truck full of sandy loam for my new beds...
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Want to plant now?

Sure....... Plant some cold season crops. Man, I wish I lived more south so I could do more cold season gardening.

Lettuce, onions, kale, cabbage etc are cold season crops.

Get at it dude!
 Quoting: RonOh 568973


So I can plant these now in Atlanta. That is very exciting. Thanks, I need to take a seed inventory. Then plant. Action will fill good!
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If you're going with the raised beds then "Lasagna Gardening" might be just the ticket for you. It's a method of continuously layering stuff onto your raised beds which results in keeping it nearly weedless, enriching the soil, enhancing plant growth, and REDUCING THE WORK, lol.

A good helpful book.

Also check out the forums at www.gardenweb.com for good gardening advice, they have over fifty gardening forums by topic, with many of them having their own photo galleries where folks post pictures of exactly what they're talking about.

Hint: Plant some food that's much hardier than your present growing zone requires. That way if you get a year of a bitterly cold winter your apple trees will survive it while your neighbors' probably won't. Note that during the last ice age the temperatures in florida were like those of present day Chicago...
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[link to www.millernurseries.com]

I've had great luck with this company. You can buy dwarf fruit trees for your limited space in back yard.

They have great raspberries and grapes taste wonderful!
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Gardening Question #1: Should I prepare a raised bed for my veggies? And why or why not? What do those that use raised beds use as a border?

Question #2: Can I plant fruit trees in the Winter? I am in Atlanta. How big should/can they be when I plant them?

Yes, I am in the stocking up stage for gerdening books but I would like to take advantage of the massive collective knowledge on this board, while we still can. I have my heritage seeds. I hear they are hard to grow. No matter.

Any other questions or comments are welcome.
 Quoting: Darkman

I say it's kinda hot in Atlanta for raised beds, I would plant straight in the ground, with some compost tilled in. You should be able to buy some pretty cheap...they'll dump a load in your pick-up truck.

You should plant your fruit trees in the fall.

Every place is a little different when it comes to gardening. The best advice is to know your plant hardiness zone. I live in Alaska where the lowest I can go is Zone 3 plants. Zone 2 is even better for me. Generally this is most important concerning perennials, however certain annuals can thrive or not depending on your zone. Some fruit trees really need the cold, like apples. Look around and see what's growing good for other folks in your area...that's the best indicator of what grows well there. And good luck on your garden!
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1. raised beds keep out more pests.

2. groves keep out more pests.

3 marigolds at edges of most borders keep out more pests.
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the best i can offer in advice at mo is plant seeds in a seed trays first till roots fall out of bottom of tray and then plant out at required spacings you have greater chance of survival for young plant plus no anoying holes in the veg patch if seeds dont grow
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