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Justify using F-16's against civilians in Gaza!! Come on!! We´re waiting!!
By Ramón Santiago in Latin America. Axis of Logic
Dec 27, 2008, 13:53

Today, the BBC published their coverage of the terrorist bombing of Gaza under the pretext of "defending Israel" while accusing the victim. Israel's cynicism is palpable as only yesterday they opened Gaza for the first shipment of relief supplies after their deadly 2-month blockade and "after repeated demands from the International community to the Israelis to open the crossings", according Hiyam Noir, Axis of Logic's correspondent in Gaza. Our brothers, sisters and children there waited desperately for the first shipment of "humanitarian supplies, medicine, industrial fuel and cooking oil". Instead they are receiving bombs and bullets in a massive Israeli bombing raid that is killing and maiming hundreds.


In a nutshell the Zionist Nazi invaders killed nearly 200 innocent people (that we know of) in air strikes from rockets fired from F-16 fighter bombers since a "truce" with Hamas had expired. This is far more than an "eye for an eye" scenario with the Israeli response being completely out of proportion to the so-called Hamas agression. Why not use one of the peace loving nuclear bombs stored in Dimona, or the sarin nerve gas under the control of the Israeli armed forces, and get the job done once and for all?!

If this ongoing genocide were not enough to make you throw up in disgust, the BBC does not even offer an iota of criticism or condemnation against this crime against humanity. CNN TV here in Venezuela blares on for sympathy for one Israeli killed by a primitive rocket fired back at the monster - a last defiant gesture of a dying victim. Shame on you and your corporate "objectivity"! "Globovision", Washington's puppet TV station in Venezuela presents on these atrocities in a ho-hum fashion as though they were reporting on one of their vulgar fashion shows in East Caracas. All of you! - Where is your moral fiber! Journalistic integrity! Ha! How about journalistic whoredom!

Ahh! And where are you, "Human Death Watch"?! Where are you "Travesty International"?! Why no immediate condemnation against this Nazi inspired regime in Tel Aviv run by a bunch of goddamed psychopathic, racist, sub-human animals? Do you not know that the world sees through your cover like a sheet of glass? Do you not know that the cover you provide for these bestial acts is no cover at all?! Or is it that you arrogantly smirk at the fact that we all know what you really are? Does your blind arrogance continue because in this relatively small parenthesis in time you happen to have power? This much is clear - you haven't an glimmer of understanding about the Kharma you are creating.

Readers - sorry for this outburst but can someone tell me the difference between this outrage in Gaza and the terror bombing of Dresden in 1944? The only difference are the numbers killed. Meanwhile, the whore media will play Nero's fiddle, arguing about the meaning of the term, "genocide"!

Believe me, and as Divine Providence would have it, the Israeli Zionists are certainly creating the conditions to be the "Chosen People" once again, but not "chosen" to receive the blessings of the "Abrahamic covenant". Sooner or later revenge will be wreaked on these psychotic killers as the number of dead children continues to mount and the Holy Land receives the flowing blood of its innocents. May your God of old come upon you from an east wind with blazing torrents that will make your F-16 cannon fire look like a spark in the wind.

Anyone! - give me an explanation to justify the difference between the Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands and the "Lebensraumpolitik" of the Nazis inspired by Hitler's "Mein Kampf"? Why do Israeli settlers daub walls with "Arabs to the gas chamber" as they seek to defend their invaded plots of land? Are these Israelis also inspired by the ethnic cleansing philosophy expounded in "Mein Kampf" - that is, the philosophy which was behind the extermination of their forefathers?

Can someone PLEASE explain this before another 200 innocents are blown to pieces as a prelude to the New Year? PLEASE, someone explain how these people can call themselves "human" when they shoot, bomb and destroy real human beings after herding them into the pen called GAZA, like cattle, after being weakened with no food, no medicine, no water, no sewage, no shelter, no way to defend themselves and nowhere to run.

Come on, Barack, what are you going to do? HA! Are you also prepared to have blood of innocents on your hands as you genuflect to your new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel and his demented neozionists continue to run riot in the Middle East?

Or is this "incident" the prelude to the (manufactured?) "international crisis" Joe Biden mentioned during the election campaign to "test your mettle", early in your presidency? The date mentioned by Biden was January 20th/21st. We wait to see if your right hand man's "prophesy" is correct.

You, Barack and your new/old Zionist-based regime make us want to vomit.
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You bloodthirsty Muslims are all the same.
Its okay to shoot missles from Gaza into Isreal,
but its NOT okay to respond and defend yourself.
If these fuckers in Gaza are stupid enough to attack
a nation with fighter jets (typical of your average
muslim retard) then they get what they deserve.
Its not like when you blow up schoolbuses full of
schoolchildren who are defenseless, or blow up a Disco
full of tourists, or an airplane full of women and children.
No, these guys shoot back
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There are no innocent civilians in Gaza.
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Once again the Israeli Air Force amazes
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Never Such Pinpoint Bombing In The History Of Warfare, As The BBC Inadvertently Makes Clear Hugh Fitzgerald

Here is an account by the BBC, from "the BBC's Rushdi Aboualouf," their man in Gaza (well, Tim Franks is the primary anti-Israel propagandist in Gaza, but Rushdi Abaoulouf is apparently a member of the local supporting staff), an account meant to be entirely unsympathetic, of course, to Israel and of course meant to win our sympathy for the "Palestinians" who have done nothing to deserve any of this:

"It's hard to find a secure place in Gaza. Gaza has no shelters, it has no safe places. The Hamas security compounds are in the middle of the city - it's not the kind of place where you see compounds outside the cities.

I have witnessed one of the compounds - which is 20m away from my house - I was standing on the balcony and I have seen the Israeli airplanes hitting the place. "

So what do we learn from his report? That the "security compounds" are deliberately placed "in the middle of the city." It's no different from the anti-aircraft missiles and guns deliberately placed on top of mosques and schools by the PLO, in Lebanon in 1982, and Hezbollah hiding -- not quite to the extent that the PLO did -- among civilians as much as possible.

And yet, look what the Israelis did -- the reporter was standing on his balcony, a mere 20 meters from "one of the compounds" and he saw "the Israeli airp[lanes hitting the place" and leaving him, still standiing on his balcony. And why did he stay on his balcony during all this? Because, despite the stories of they wish us all to believe, their own actions and attitudes bespeak their real understanding. They call the Israelis Nazis, but clamor to be treated in Israeli hospitals by those same "Nazis." They call the Israelis murderers, but whenever a group of Arabs wants to flee another group of Arabs -- those "Palestinians" who fled from King Hussein's Bedouin troops during the crackdown on Black September -- they try to ford the Jordan, arms raised, hoping desperately that they will be allowed to surrender to the Israeli "killers."

And here, on his balcony, in the full security of knowing how careful the Israelis are, this Arab reporter stands, and sees the bombing, some twenty meters away, of one of those military targets that the Israelis aimed for, and hit, and once again, showed the world that denounces them -- what other country, anywhere, has engaged in such spectacularly pinpoint bombing designed to spare all but strictly military targets, even with those targets deliberately having been placed smack in the middle of, cheek by jowl with, civilian apartment buildings, schools, hospitals.

Once again the Israeli Air Force amazes.
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There are no innocent civilians in Gaza.
 Quoting: good luck 581051

Hitler would have loved you.
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After a ceasefire...

Who starts the shooting?

Isn't it that the Palestinians ALWAYS SHOOT FIRST with rockets into neighborhoods?

I know they feel powerless and unheard by the world... but there is no call for complaint about the massive response to sending rockets into NEIGHBORHOODS.

Try imagining rockets landing in YOUR neighborhood, around YOUR children.
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You'd rather they use a butter knife or something slower?

Seems kinda cruel to me, though...
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Hey dipshit OP,

Ever see what happens in school when a nerd sitting behind a jock flicks him repeatedly in the back of the head and mocks him? The jock might ignore him as long as possible, or just warn him a couple times, not even wanting to deal with him but then when he does respond it will hurt much more than the repetitive annoying 'flicking', it will be more like breaking his finger...get it?

Human nature is the same always, just on different scales.
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Well...at least they didn't use the F-15E's...???
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Justify using rockets against civilians in Israel.
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Justify using rockets against civilians in Israel.
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Rockets? You call those things a rocket? lmao

I'll show you rockets sunshine.

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Justify using rockets against civilians in Israel.
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They (the palis) dont have sophisticated weaponry...no guidance systems, unlike Israel.

Israel was starving the Palis to DEATH.

That is why they retaliated on Israel.

And they have, and they will attack Israel again and again, until they end the illegal occupation and stop imprisoning the Palestinian population.
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Justify using rockets against civilians in Israel.


They (the palis) dont have sophisticated weaponry...no guidance systems, unlike Israel.

Israel was starving the Palis to DEATH.

That is why they retaliated on Israel.

And they have, and they will attack Israel again and again, until they end the illegal occupation and stop imprisoning the Palestinian population.
 Quoting: ~~**NightFall**~~ 200257

They're starving to death because everytime Israel opens the damn gates to these services, some dipsquat palestinian fires a rocket, suicide bombs something, and the list goes on. It's not like Israel just decided out of the blue to make them suffer, this crap has been virtually non-stop from the start, and it's getting worse every decade.
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Israel has exhausted all of its options except the peace option

Man I can't imagine how Israel is going to live this down


Its like bombing my neighbor and kids to death and looking over there everyday with a clean conscience
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Roosevelt should have let Hitler finish the job before getting involved in WWII.
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What ever the justification, murder is wrong. There are things Israel could have done to help prevent escalation of tensions. They choose the hard line, as though the Palis are their children, deserving of punishment.

Nothing justifies the starvation of innocent civilians, and then to not expect them to react and fight back is short sighted.

They could have pulled out, allowed the Palis the dignity of self determination, and the ability to elect whatever government they see fit for themselves, and to stop blockades on AID relief and food and medicine, etc. Instead, they chose to kill innocent civilians in staggering numbers, as justification and bloodthirsty revenge.

Israel, especially, knows what genocide and starvation feels like, yet, they expect "Never Again" to fly in the face of their actions against the Palis.

I suppose the genocide and starvation rule only applies for Israel, in their distorted world view.
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And they have, and they will attack Israel again and again,
 Quoting: ~~**NightFall**~~ 200257

Thus, they can expect reprisal, again and again.
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And they have, and they will attack Israel again and again,

Thus, they can expect reprisal, again and again.
 Quoting: Evil Twin



Indeed, however disproportionately.
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So by the convoluted reasoning here:

Palestinians shooting rockets at Israel = OK

Israel retaliating = Not Ok

The movie Idiocracy seems like reality every day.
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And they have, and they will attack Israel again and again,

Thus, they can expect reprisal, again and again.



Indeed, however disproportionately.
 Quoting: ~~**NightFall**~~ 200257

There is no rule of proportion in war, nor even in bar brawls.
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Israel has exhausted all of its options except the peace option

Man I can't imagine how Israel is going to live this down


Its like bombing my neighbor and kids to death and looking over there everyday with a clean conscience
 Quoting: Free Store.

bump hf
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Let's hit this at the heart of the matter.

If Israel would allow the Palis the right to self determination and end their agression/infiltration/occupation the Palis would never send a crude bomb into Israel. They would have had no reason to.

Sure, there are variables, I'm not saying all Palis are innocent. But it IS precisely the innocent that should have been given the consideration of living in freedom, as opposed to the illegal Zionazi occupation.

Starvation and deprivation of essential goods and services is a no-no for Israel.

There is a way out of this hell, and the initiative must come from Israel.

Canada is going to bring this protest against the Israeli aggression to the streets, tomorrow.
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Gaza is an apartheid prison camp created by the evil state of Israel and the Zionist murderers who like to shoot and bomb the poor for fun with American taxpayers money and military equipment.

What a fucked up mess American, Britain and the Zionists have made of our world.

Wake up Sheeple and get off your knees!
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There is no rule of proportion in war, nor even in bar brawls.
 Quoting: Evil Twin

Yeah there is...always hit harder and more often.
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There is no rule of proportion in war, nor even in bar brawls.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


This is a fight, no doubt, but where is the DECLARATION OF WAR??? The real deal. Where is it?
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I might add, that the accusation (however weak, so Israel maintains)is that even in Canada, our civilian populations live very close to our military bases. Infact, there are military bases ALL throughout the population centers of both the US and Canada.

So the excuse that Hamas hides among the civilians, is a weak argument.
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There is no rule of proportion in war, nor even in bar brawls.


This is a fight, no doubt, but where is the DECLARATION OF WAR??? The real deal. Where is it?
 Quoting: RHSC 570208

Google "Hamas Covenant".

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)


'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6)



'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
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There is no rule of proportion in war, nor even in bar brawls.

Yeah there is...always hit harder and more often.
 Quoting: falldown

Amen
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I might add, that the accusation (however weak, so Israel maintains)is that even in Canada, our civilian populations live very close to our military bases. Infact, there are military bases ALL throughout the population centers of both the US and Canada.

So the excuse that Hamas hides among the civilians, is a weak argument.
 Quoting: ~~**NightFall**~~ 200257

Not really. The bases are clearly delineated from the population. Even the "hidden" research bases are off-limits to the population. Even a bad mortar operator has enough room to hit them without harming folks in the surrounding areas.

The folks doing the attacking in Palestinian areas are launching them from people's yards and rooftops. No way to avoid casualties, even if Israel still cared. They didn't always go apeshit on the Palestinians, but years of shooting at ghosts that disappeared into apartment buildings and refugee camps ate away their sensitivity, and with the population still being attacked, the people demanded the military have more success.

And yet, the palestinians didn't seem to mind, because they're still doing it.
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I might add, that the accusation (however weak, so Israel maintains)is that even in Canada, our civilian populations live very close to our military bases. Infact, there are military bases ALL throughout the population centers of both the US and Canada.

So the excuse that Hamas hides among the civilians, is a weak argument.
 Quoting: ~~**NightFall**~~ 200257


I can guarantee to you that any U.S. military installation worth hitting will not be near civilians.
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every last pali should be driven into Jordan forever. Let them live in Jordan or die! Then plow that stinking strip called Gaza under.





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