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The city of Pittsburgh has just passed a controversial new law that will require gun owners to report a lost or stolen gun within twenty-four hours of its disappearance. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that the law is intended to counteract the problem of straw purchasing, which occurs when people with clean records purchase firearms in order to sell them to criminals.

There is still uncertainty as to whether the law will be enforced however, as many have already questioned whether the measure is even constitutional. "It's a shame that we have a City Council that doesn't know its job or its place in the enactment of law," said Kim Stolfer, chairman of Firearm Owners Against Crime, during an interview with the Tribune-Review.

The law was passed by the Pittsburgh City Council in a 6-1 vote, and was approved without the signature of Mayor Luke Ravenstahl, who stated that he does not believe the measure will be enforceable. Ravenstahl pointed out that the law might be in violation of the city’s Home Rule Charter and the state Uniform Firearms Act.

If the law is determined to be in violation, it will likely be on the grounds that all matters of gun control legislation are to be decided by the state, and not by the city of Pittsburgh, as was agreed upon by the city and gun rights advocates back in 1995.

Still, with gun crime on the rise in Pittsburgh, Ravenstahl has stated that he "will continue to lobby our friends and representatives in the state government to enact meaningful statewide regulations that would require the reporting of a lost or stolen firearm."

For more on this new legislation, click here. [link to www.pittsburghlive.com]
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People need to understand they are being controlled by private law.
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"The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." - Pennsylvania Constitution, Section 21
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"The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." - Pennsylvania Constitution, Section 21
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Unless they are 14th Amendment citizens and are controlled by private law.

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Observation: The current Federal Government Has done nothing to limit gun control or make it a priority but paranoia is running deep.
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Observation: The State of PA and Local Govt through it's right to state control has restricted guns in PA.
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Not sure I understand this new law. I mean, like it or hate it, how the heck do you enforce something like this?
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"The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." - Pennsylvania Constitution, Section 21


Unless they are 14th Amendment citizens and are controlled by private law.

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Yup, The city of Pittsburgh is a private corporation. When you leave the city, you may see a sign that states "Leaving Corp" It's not much different than Leaving the GM Plant...
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Not sure I understand this new law. I mean, like it or hate it, how the heck do you enforce something like this?
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Sniff sniff, yep smells like gun registration is in the wind.
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Sniff sniff, yep smells like gun registration is in the wind.
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That I am used to hearing about and I have even heard lately of people having to give a fingerprint in a certain state to buy rounds, but yeah, this could be a soft way to gun registration.
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we were discussing this the other day - while theres guns bills being proposed in congress, a few ppl i know have said it might not be the feds who put restrictions on gun control, they said it just might be the states who end up being the fall guy here.
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we were discussing this the other day - while theres guns bills being proposed in congress, a few ppl i know have said it might not be the feds who put restrictions on gun control, they said it just might be the states who end up being the fall guy here.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Fall guy? It's called local government. They are more open to influence than the feds. I will waive the US flag until the day I die. Compare my state constitution to The Constitution, Don't get me started. If a representative govt. fails it's our fault, not the govts.
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Sniff sniff, yep smells like gun registration is in the wind.

That I am used to hearing about and I have even heard lately of people having to give a fingerprint in a certain state to buy rounds, but yeah, this could be a soft way to gun registration.
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interesting choice of words here
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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So, they can't take away the right to bear arms.

But they can tangle that right up in so much red tape that a lot of people just won't bother anymore.
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we were discussing this the other day - while theres guns bills being proposed in congress, a few ppl i know have said it might not be the feds who put restrictions on gun control, they said it just might be the states who end up being the fall guy here.

Fall guy? It's called local government. They are more open to influence than the feds. I will waive the US flag until the day I die. Compare my state constitution to The Constitution, Don't get me started. If a representative govt. fails it's our fault, not the govts.
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interesting choice of words here
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Let me just say I have been down this road before and I can smell the stench of confiscation from a country mile away.

Sure you can buy arms we have bb guns and slingshots in the store take your pick.
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Let me just say I have been down this road before and I can smell the stench of confiscation from a country mile away.


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+1
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So, they can't take away the right to bear arms.

But they can tangle that right up in so much red tape that a lot of people just won't bother anymore.
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precisely
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Looks like private machinests and loaders are the only answer anymore.
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Looks like private machinests and loaders are the only answer anymore.
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Indeed.

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Looks like private machinests and loaders are the only answer anymore.


Indeed.

Anybody got a spare cnc laying about?
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rofl gattling shotgun
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Looks like private machinests and loaders are the only answer anymore.


Indeed.

Anybody got a spare cnc laying about?
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Older NCs, CNCs are fairly easy to come by :)
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Does the word oppressive sound familiar? As far as enforcing that law....wait till YOUR gun is found at the scene of a crime and they trace it back to you. Bingo...you are in serious trouble. AND...you might not have known it was missing. Just a way to make you a criminal retroactively.
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Does the word oppressive sound familiar? As far as enforcing that law....wait till YOUR gun is found at the scene of a crime and they trace it back to you. Bingo...you are in serious trouble. AND...you might not have known it was missing. Just a way to make you a criminal retroactively.
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see handgun laws in NY
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Looks like private machinests and loaders are the only answer anymore.
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rambo style chuckle
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... report a lost or stolen gun within twenty-four hours of its disappearance.
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I would do that anyway.
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OP Why do you think that this is a stepping stone approach to a nationwide confiscation on guns? Is this because you think that the Illuminati have hijacked your Government and want to take away your ability to fight the Orwellian society they seek to impose?

David dIcke believes that European elite bloodline families from Britian, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy, infiltrated the US Gov a long time ago and have been controlling it ever since.
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OP Why do you think that this is a stepping stone approach to a nationwide confiscation on guns? Is this because you think that the Illuminati have hijacked your Government and want to take away your ability to fight the Orwellian society they seek to impose?

David dIcke believes that European elite bloodline families from Britian, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy, infiltrated the US Gov a long time ago and have been controlling it ever since.
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No doubt!
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OP Why do you think that this is a stepping stone approach to a nationwide confiscation on guns? Is this because you think that the Illuminati have hijacked your Government and want to take away your ability to fight the Orwellian society they seek to impose?

David dIcke believes that European elite bloodline families from Britian, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy, infiltrated the US Gov a long time ago and have been controlling it ever since.
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and i believe the same.
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Observation: The current Federal Government Has done nothing to limit gun control or make it a priority but paranoia is running deep.
Comment: Who's Funding it?
Observation: The State of PA and Local Govt through it's right to state control has restricted guns in PA.
Comment: None necessary.
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It's done through the feds and their proxies Obamabot.This is the softening phase.Hard phase is next.It's called precedent.You freakin' droid.





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