Does the 1,000 year reign of Christ begin with peace on earth? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 394274 India 02/15/2009 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the BIBLE really says: Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. OP Why do you continue to post perverted scripture?? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 106290 United States 02/15/2009 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for leaving out the part about the 7th angel and 24 elders. Makes it a lot easier to understand. In answer to the question, in reading your scripture, the International version,New International version, New Living translation, English Standard version,and King James Version, they all agree. Though they use different words, the meanings are the same. It was always my impression that the 1,000 yr. reign began peace, but the way it's worded makes it sound like the nations became angry or wrathful after Jesus begins to rule, then comes judgment. Guess it won't matter in the end, whether it comes at the beginning of the reign, or well into it, as long as it comes. And those of us who may not make it will die happy knowing the evil doers who destroy our earth, will be destroyed.Thank you Father. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great— and for destroying those who destroy the earth. If it isn't soon, we'll destroy ourselves. Not content to destroy the earth and creatures inhabiting it, we make space our toxic waste storage and want to invade other planets to ruin them too. We won't have food to eat, water to drink, or air to breathe. What useless waste's we have been. Rant off. Thank you for your time and opportunity to vent. |
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beemerben User ID: 180196 United States 02/15/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When Christ comes back he doesn't touch down on the earth, the righteous are caught up to meet him in the sky and then are taken to heaven for the 1000 years. During that time the earth is desolate because all the wicked were destroyed by the brightness of his coming and only satan is bound to the earth and for the entire 1000 years he has no one to tempt (all dead) and does nothing but think about all the sadness he has brought about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 553433 United States 02/15/2009 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.” Quoting: DGNJesus lived almost 2000 years ago. He DID NOT fulfill the prophecies of the Messiah, and there is NOTHING in those (OT) prophecies about any 'second coming'. , |
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(OP) User ID: 506231 United States 02/17/2009 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the BIBLE really says: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394274Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. OP Why do you continue to post perverted scripture?? So... does the 1,000 year reign begin with peace on earth? HINT: It began in 1914 |
Mbeccu User ID: 616418 Australia 02/17/2009 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the BIBLE really says: Quoting: DGNRev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. OP Why do you continue to post perverted scripture?? So... does the 1,000 year reign begin with peace on earth? HINT: It began in 1914 you sound like one of those Jehovah's Witnesses heheheh all rethoric and no proof hehehe (unless you believe the bible heheheeh) if you dont believe that the bible is divine then they can offer no other proof heheh bible or nothing hehehe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 616420 United States 02/17/2009 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Primary Chronicle reports that in the year 987, as the result of a consultation with his boyars, Vladimir sent envoys to study the religions of the various neighboring nations whose representatives had been urging him to embrace their respective faiths. The result is amusingly described in the following apocryphal anecdote. Of the Muslim Bulgarians of the Volga the envoys reported there is no gladness among them; only sorrow and a great stench, and that their religion was undesirable due to its taboo against alcoholic beverages and pork; supposedly, Vladimir said on that occasion: "Drinking is the joy of the Rus'." Russian sources also describe Vladimir consulting with Jewish envoys (who may or may not have been Khazars), and questioning them about their religion but ultimately rejecting it, saying that their loss of Jerusalem was evidence of their having been abandoned by God. Ultimately Vladimir settled on Christianity. In the gloomy churches of the Germans his emissaries saw no beauty; but at Hagia Sophia, where the full festival ritual of the Byzantine Church was set in motion to impress them, they found their ideal: "We no longer knew whether we were in heaven or on earth," they reported, "nor such beauty, and we know not how to tell of it." If Vladimir was impressed by this account of his envoys, he was yet more so by political gains of the Byzantine alliance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 616426 Australia 02/17/2009 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | christianity as a whole is so warped, modified, distorted and out of hand, that if this so called christ was to return and say to all that he was christ, it wouldnt be the muslems that'd kill him off.. it'd be so called christians.. after 2000 years of abuse in his name of ungodly proportions and perversions.. any man claiming to be christ however divine his arrival.. will be doubted, hated and killed by the very people who claim to do his work.. 1000 years of peace? try another 1000 years of the same bullshit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 616420 United States 02/17/2009 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At first Vladimir baptised his 12 sons and many boyars. He destroyed the wooden statues of Slavic pagan gods (which he had himself raised just eight years earlier). They were either burnt or hacked into pieces, and the statue of Perun — the supreme god — was thrown into the Dnieper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 615405 United States 02/17/2009 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.” Quoting: DGN“We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets Rv11:15 The 1,000 year reign of Christ begins with peace at the place mentioned in John 14:1-3. Jesus left earth to prepare a place for us to be taken for 1,000 years. |
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User ID: 265891 United States 02/17/2009 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It begins with the end of the Apocolypse which his coming is supposed to end. Of course, most of the people on the planet will be dead by then so only a very few will actually get to enjoy the peace that is supposed to follow. That is, if you believe in that sort of thing. |
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(OP) User ID: 506231 United States 02/17/2009 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | christianity as a whole is so warped, modified, distorted and out of hand, that if this so called christ was to return and say to all that he was christ, it wouldnt be the muslems that'd kill him off.. it'd be so called christians.. after 2000 years of abuse in his name of ungodly proportions and perversions.. any man claiming to be christ however divine his arrival.. will be doubted, hated and killed by the very people who claim to do his work.. 1000 years of peace? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 616426try another 1000 years of the same bullshit Right, that's exactly why judgment begins on "the house of God". All the reproach Christendom has brought against the name of Christ will be avenged with the beginning of the "great tribulation". "“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness" Mt7:21 Fair enough? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 616778 United States 02/17/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a Jehovah's Witness I do not believe in warring or going to war, nor does any true witness. My father-in-law got so mad about this one day and said: "If everyone were like you Jehovah's Witnesses no one would fight for their country". I said "exactly". I think it took him a while to figure out what he had just said. So, when the 1000 year reign begins, wars will be done away with. That is why we pray the "Lords Prayer" which is located at Matthew 6:9, 10. "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". So the ones that are left after the wicked are eliminated will be peace lovers and no longer learn war. Flame away. |
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User ID: 454067 United States 02/17/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. After the tribulation period, satan is bound and cast into the bottomless pit. For 1,000 years Christ will rule from Jerusalem. Those that survived the tribulation will begin to repopulate the earth. The earth will be at peace as there will no longer be satanic forces at work. At the end of the 1,000 yrs, the bible says that satan will be loosed for a short season and will once again deceive the nations until he is ultimatley destroyed and cast into the bottomless pit forever. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. |
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(OP) User ID: 506231 United States 02/17/2009 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the BIBLE really says: Quoting: Mbeccu 616418Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. OP Why do you continue to post perverted scripture?? So... does the 1,000 year reign begin with peace on earth? HINT: It began in 1914 you sound like one of those Jehovah's Witnesses heheheh all rethoric and no proof hehehe (unless you believe the bible heheheeh) if you dont believe that the bible is divine then they can offer no other proof heheh bible or nothing hehehe You skipped versr 18, the point of this thread. “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth. |
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(OP) User ID: 506231 United States 02/20/2009 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. After the tribulation period, satan is bound and cast into the bottomless pit. For 1,000 years Christ will rule from Jerusalem. Those that survived the tribulation will begin to repopulate the earth. The earth will be at peace as there will no longer be satanic forces at work. At the end of the 1,000 yrs, the bible says that satan will be loosed for a short season and will once again deceive the nations until he is ultimatley destroyed and cast into the bottomless pit forever. Quoting: TheFiremanRight but Jesus is not returning to rule on earth, rather his 144,000 assistant kings are resurrected in heaven as spirit creatures. "“Do not let YOUR hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God, exercise faith also in me. 2 In the house of my Father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told YOU, because I am going my way to prepare a place for YOU. 3 Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for YOU, I am coming again and will receive YOU home to myself, that where I am YOU also may be. 4 And where I am going YOU know the way." Jo14:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 619058 Canada 02/20/2009 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ENOCH is the Son Of Man Quoting: The BoE proves Enoch is the Son of Man, because the Book that originated this "story" discovers it for all who have "eyes to see" AND "ears to hear." George H. Schodde And that angel came to me and greeted me with his voice and said to me: "Thou art a son of man who was born to justice, and justice dwells over thee, and the justice of the Head of days will not depart from thee." Richard Laurence Then that angel came to me, and with his voice saluted me, saying, You are the Son of man, who art born for righteousness, and righteousness has rested upon you. 70:18The righteousness of the Ancient of days shall not forsake you. Robert Henry Charles And he (i.e. the angel) came to me and greeted me with His voice, and said unto me ' This is the Son of Man who is born unto righteousness, And righteousness abides over him, And the righteousness of the Head of Days forsakes him not.' This third last translation from Charles is really special, where the LORD'S inspiration allowed Charles to write the verse as though the angel was announcing it to us the "readers" and not to Enoch knowing full well "2" other translations confirms the fact that Enoch is the Messiah. This last translation is like when a performer takes the stage or at the end of the show the announcer declares; "ladies and gentlemen, this is the Son of Man!" The term "Son of Man" belongs to Enoch, and because the oldest Dead Sea Scroll belong to Enoch, His Book is the originator of all these beliefs, terms, characters and storyline. The Old Testament and New borrowed these "terms" and did not acknowledge the Author making them PLAGIARISTS. Quoting: [link to www.bib-arch.org] Book Of Enoch is the first book written containing these characters and storyline. Every other book was stacked next to it as time went by and later the BoE was removed to enslave the chosen people. The One who wrote the story "first" is the AUTHOR of that story. [link to reluctant-messenger.com] |
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