The Asteroid Belt is non-existent --- PROOF!

interesting

your post just got raped by my army of flags.

good point op,just might have something there. i wonder why i cant see them

with all the light pollution

People living in the country and remote areas would see them.

And another thing many here on GLP have said they have seen Venus brightly lit up at night? Venus could only be seen in the daytime, because its before Earth, second in front of the SUN, when the region of the earth you live on is turned away from the sun (like at night) you could never see VENUS in the night skies because EARTH would have her back turned away from the 1st & 2nd planet too!


Anybody on GLP who has said they have seen Venus at night and any science websites claiming that the bright thing in the night sky is Venus is flat out either lying or just doesn't have any scientific understanding.

then how is it we dont see asteroids until they are right upon us? sunlight doesnt work the way you imply, and the distance to the belt is a big factor. not ever thing in space reflects light at the distance of the belt.

I don't know OP. It seems silly to think that astronomers just made up a huge asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter for shits and giggles. On the other hand, there are absolutely NO convincing Hubble images of asteroids (Ceres and Vespa included), which is strange. It's an interesting thought, I'll give you that.

Punisher!!

Thank-you !!!!!

Those Pinocchio scientists made more then just the Asteroid belt up, believe me, "why are all the PLANETS named after fallen angels (Greek Gods)?

Rocks like the Moon reflect sun-light, its scientifically proven, lol, same would apply for other rocks (Asteroids).

Stars that are at the other end of the UNIVERSE reach us here on Earth, we see their star-light. The same for our star/sun's light would reach and reflect off the Asteroids, we would see a lit-up BELT across our night skies.

once again, no. that is not accurate. a star producing light is completely different than an object's ability to reflect light. try shining a flashlight on a black balloon, then try that trick with the flashlight a mile away from the balloon. you will see the pinpoint of light from the flashlight, but you will not see a reflection from the balloon. also, the moon is not the same rock as an asteroid. many asteroids pass earth that we never see, because they dont reflect light.

Pluto, for example!

Rocks like the Moon reflect sun-light, its scientifically proven, lol, same would apply for other rocks (Asteroids).

Stars that are at the other end of the UNIVERSE reach us here on Earth, we see their star-light. The same for our star/sun's light would reach and reflect off the Asteroids, we would see a lit-up BELT across our night skies.




Your completely mistaken, how unfortunate. Asteroids are made of the same rocks that made the planets, our moon is made of the same exact rock material.

I just looked outside...

I didn't see Mars in the sky, so Mars does not exist.

Pluto isn't a star, unless you mean if our sun's light reaches Pluto then yes it does, "to what degree?" Who really knows?

Mars doesn't run millions of miles across like the BELT.

Selfpunisher has another brain fart!

[link to kids.nineplanets.org]

"Though they are rarely visible with the naked eye, many asteroids are visible with binoculars or small telescopes."

"The total mass of all the asteroids is less than that of the Moon"

SNIP> Obviously, we are NOT facing in the 'wrong' direction.....
Well, it's not an instant 180 degree flip from high noon to
7 pm or midnight. We rotate once in 24 hours, so we get a view in
all directions out into space during that 24 hour period. AND the only part of the night sky we CAN'T see is that 30 degree angle
(wedge of sky) around the sun (15 degrees of sky just before sunrise, plus where the sun is, and 15 degrees of sky right after sunset)....out of 360 degrees. So we see (every clear night) about 330 degrees of space around us in night-time darkness.
The only part of sky we can't see is that 30 degree wedge where the sun is, but wait a month, then you CAN see that part (rising just ahead of the sun around the crack of dawn), and the next eastward 30 degree wedge is not visible to us because of the sun, until the following month, and so on and so on.

Venus is currently located nearly 40 degrees EAST of the sun now
in our sky, so when darkness falls around 7 pm local time, there is Venus still nearly 2 hours from setting in the west. We are viewing
space just about 15-20 degrees east of the sun when looking to the
west, and a little more than 180 degrees from the sun when you
are looking at the low eastern sky at that time, 7 pm. And actually if you have very good vision, and it's a very clear, colbalt blue sky, AND you know exactly where Venus is east of the sun, you can see
Venus in the daylight hours too, around 3 pm Venus will be located
roughly where the sun WAS, at noon....up there due south.

As far as the moon, it makes one complete trip around the Earth in
about 29.5 days, so where-ever it is, that's when we see it. Realize
that EVERYTHING (in the equatorial part of the sky) is above your
horizon for 12 hours, and below your horizon for about 12 hours,
IRRESPECTIVE of where the sun is, or IRRESPECTIVE of any other body,
or even IRRESPECTIVE of whether or not we can actually see it!
UP 12, and down 12, because we rotate once every 24 hours.

The moon moves about 12 degrees EASTWARD every 24 hours. At new it
was in the vicinity of the sun, actually eclipsing the sun on new moon the 25th of January
See Annular - ringed- solar eclipse on
[link to www.spaceweather.com]
for pictures of same. So here we are 3.5 days later, so the moon
has moved eastward 12 x 3.5 = 42 degrees east of the sun, and thus
just about where Venus is too...so we see both together in the night sky rrespective of who is closest to the sun in their orbits.
But wait a night or two and the moon will dramatically move farther
eastward....toward first quarter phase, due south at sunset, or
90 degrees from the sun. (Full moon is a week later, 180 degrees
from the sun, and last quarter the following week is 270 degrees
from the sun (rising around midnight) and a week after that you're
back to new moon....the moon near the sun again, and thus invisible
to us. That's the way it works, month after month after month.

Remember we watched a bright Jupiter - Venus conjunction near the end of 2008, but Jupiter is the 5th planet and Venus the 2nd, but they were still both in the same part of sky because Jupiter was almost ready to pass BEHIND the sun from our viewpoint, whereas Venus was just swinging out from behind the sun.
These near alignments happen all the time in our 330 degrees of
night sky, that's what keeps the hobby interesting. <<END SNIP

How many forum space will you take up before you google: why can we see venus

If only all rocks were made of the moon, and about the same size & distance as the moon.

You cannot see MASS, you can only see SURFACE...... and the surface of this BELT runs MILLIONS of MILES!!!!!

Listen anyone who says that the bright thing in the night sky is Venus is a liar, many lies have been claimed on GLP. Venus could only be seen in the daytime, because its before Earth, second in front of the SUN, when the region of the earth you live on is turned away from the sun (like at night) you could never see VENUS in the night skies because EARTH would have her back turned away from the 1st & 2nd planet too!


(like at night)
(like at night)

D'oh! I forgot. . .mass is invisible.


What was Jebus afraid of?
What was Jebus afraid of?

"Hello, dont you know a circle is a sphere!!"

Exactly -- that you have two mirrors, one is 6 inches thick and the other 1/2 inch, the reflection seen will be the same. The Moon has more mass, but that mass has no reflection other then its surface. The Asteroid BELT has nothing but surface, millions and millions of miles of SURFACE.


His own shadow...


NO, a circle is a circle, and a sphere is a sphere --- HELLO?

This thread isn't about the Moon, I had many threads and many more coming up on the Moon, when they do, comment on it and I'll be more then happy to sit you in the corner.

This is Punisher you fools.

He does not deal with logic. He is here only to make you angry. He thrives on negativity and will counter all facts and proofs with his facts and proofs. And he repeats things he thinks are important.

Feels as if then they will stay in your head.
Feels as if then they will stay in your head.

He is beyond troll, and is up there with the kid that throws rocks at the mean dog down the road.

He throws logic in your face and calls you stupid for having any.
He throws logic in your face and calls you stupid for having any.

I got that just right, this is what's frustrating you, live with it!

West coast my dick, for the past week you and your associates have been posting insults and delusions on my threads in support of the fairytale of Planets around the clock, from morning 2 morning, keep lying, you're whole life is a lie!