The Why of Worship.............ON YOUR KNEES LITTLE BATTERIES!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 598833 United States 02/19/2009 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the reason most of the "houses of worship" are built on intersecting Earth ley/dragon lines with much of the architecture designed for the "transmission" of this energy. Quoting: Saxon (777)Interesting. Could be the unauthorized "high places" of the old testament they were always told to tear down. I dunno. . . |
HardTruth
User ID: 548904 United States 02/19/2009 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He just told you the truth!! Quoting: PasserbyCan you not see it? Are you that far gone? Far from it, Hard Truth (Nice to meet ya, btw) Who is "Creator" as Saxon referenced? Passerby I have explained it many times, though few accept it, it is however the HardTruth most do not want to hear!! The old testament YHVH was not the TRUE CREATOR of all!! He did however create modern day man and his claim upon us is valid!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
HardTruth
User ID: 548904 United States 02/19/2009 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is probably the dumbest religion thread I've ever seen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602184I guess Sax is saying (along with HardTruth) that this is where we all came from: "The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic) Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh) And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5) ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14199 United States 02/19/2009 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged (Sumerian Creation Epic) Quoting: HardTruthIf the was no daylight, you expect us to see the moon at night????? If there is no daylight, that means our atmosphere covered the Earth so much that sunlight was not let in. In that situation, of course the moon will not be seen EITHER~!!!! Doesn't mean the moon wasn't there.... |
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HardTruth
User ID: 548904 United States 02/19/2009 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged (Sumerian Creation Epic) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14199If the was no daylight, you expect us to see the moon at night????? If there is no daylight, that means our atmosphere covered the Earth so much that sunlight was not let in. In that situation, of course the moon will not be seen EITHER~!!!! Doesn't mean the moon wasn't there.... The Earth used to be closer to Saturn if not one her moons in the ancient past!! Things changed in the celestial mechanics of Earth and we are where we are now!! There were many civilizations which left records of a time Earth had no moon, and Saturn was worshipped as the supreme being, not our sun of the here and now!! Ever wonder why all the so called holy ones had halo's? Hint = Saturn's Rings!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 594943 United States 02/19/2009 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart enough not to make a dumb statement like this, because I as all humans I don't know for sure. But it has crossed my mind why would a god want worship. Even as a lowly human with many flaws, I could not ever see myself wanting to be worshiped. Appreciated maybe. But I have to admit, I just don't get that one. Quoting: Saxon (777)The worship thing is similar to the Matrix movie theme. You, as a worshipper are like a "battery" to the fallen, as the fallen have "detuned" to the very fundamental Love aspect of our Creator. Therefore, they need those who still have that ability to do their tuning for them. Then, the FEAR aspect demodulates that energy to the lower energy form that THEY can "digest" for their own uses. Worship is devoid of Love, but instead provides the mental/spirit focus aspect of the transference of that energy. That's the reason most of the "houses of worship" are built on intersecting Earth ley/dragon lines with much of the architecture designed for the "transmission" of this energy. Yes, and all that wasted energy is going out into the ethers, instead of raising the vibrational frequency within. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 594943 United States 02/19/2009 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged (Sumerian Creation Epic) Quoting: HardTruthIf the was no daylight, you expect us to see the moon at night????? If there is no daylight, that means our atmosphere covered the Earth so much that sunlight was not let in. In that situation, of course the moon will not be seen EITHER~!!!! Doesn't mean the moon wasn't there.... The Earth used to be closer to Saturn if not one her moons in the ancient past!! Things changed in the celestial mechanics of Earth and we are where we are now!! There were many civilizations which left records of a time Earth had no moon, and Saturn was worshipped as the supreme being, not our sun of the here and now!! Ever wonder why all the so called holy ones had halo's? Hint = Saturn's Rings!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) No, that's not it. Everyone has an AURA and the enlightened ones have a pure white one? I don't know, because I've only seen auras of the unenlightened and they're beautiful! Beautiful pastel colors. |
We Are Dust
User ID: 617701 United States 02/19/2009 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone help? What part of the battery is the knee? I grabbed my remote, took out the batteries, and have been examining them for two hours now, and I cannot find the knees. Speaking of reptiles and knees, Do snakes have knees? Any help would be appreciated! For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14 * |
HardTruth
User ID: 548904 United States 02/19/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone help? Quoting: We Are DustWhat part of the battery is the knee? I grabbed my remote, took out the batteries, and have been examining them for two hours now, and I cannot find the knees. We humans are the batteries, but you knew that!! Speaking of reptiles and knees, Quoting: We Are DustDo snakes have knees? Any help would be appreciated! According to your scriptures, one used too!! Hint, snake = Walking Reptile, ooops, then that means it wasn't ever a snake!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618431 United Kingdom 02/19/2009 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart enough not to make a dumb statement like this, because I as all humans I don't know for sure. But it has crossed my mind why would a god want worship. Even as a lowly human with many flaws, I could not ever see myself wanting to be worshiped. Appreciated maybe. But I have to admit, I just don't get that one. Quoting: Saxon (777)The worship thing is similar to the Matrix movie theme. You, as a worshipper are like a "battery" to the fallen, as the fallen have "detuned" to the very fundamental Love aspect of our Creator. Therefore, they need those who still have that ability to do their tuning for them. Then, the FEAR aspect demodulates that energy to the lower energy form that THEY can "digest" for their own uses. Worship is devoid of Love, but instead provides the mental/spirit focus aspect of the transference of that energy. That's the reason most of the "houses of worship" are built on intersecting Earth ley/dragon lines with much of the architecture designed for the "transmission" of this energy. weork shipe not worship (see w.tyndale translation from vulgate). A place to do work. that work involved harvesting the manna to make bread and wine to feed to the children. today the concept is flawed. |
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Passerby
User ID: 609229 United States 02/19/2009 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have explained it many times, though few accept it, it is however the HardTruth most do not want to hear!! Quoting: HardTruthThe old testament YHVH was not the TRUE CREATOR of all!! He did however create modern day man and his claim upon us is valid!! For you, who is the true creator? Passerby |
FallenAwaken
User ID: 618444 United Kingdom 02/19/2009 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must FALL to WAKE UP.. "I had to FALL to finally SEE"... You're HANGING in this place..... "STEP DOWN and smile at this fool..Who believes his own WORD"... They CRUCIFIED the light in this place..The SLEEPING TRUE SELF/LIGHT...US!.. "This is DAILY CRUCIFIXION..And these rusty nails leave scars".. FALL ON ME... "Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE" "The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD" "I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US." - Martin Luther "What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE" "What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later" "Stones to throw at my Creator.. MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther.. But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS" |
Passerby
User ID: 609229 United States 02/19/2009 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must FALL to WAKE UP.. Quoting: FallenAwaken"I had to FALL to finally SEE"... You're HANGING in this place..... "STEP DOWN and smile at this fool..Who believes his own WORD"... They CRUCIFIED the light in this place..The SLEEPING TRUE SELF/LIGHT...US!.. "This is DAILY CRUCIFIXION..And these rusty nails leave scars".. FALL ON ME... I can't understand you. I tried. (I'm not very wordy either)... I'll read if you can clue me in a little more as to what you are trying to say. Passerby |
HardTruth
User ID: 548904 United States 02/19/2009 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hint, snake = Walking Reptile, ooops, then that means it wasn't ever a snake!! Quoting: MuadDib987I suspect flying rather than walking Lol... Yes, there were many of those too, still are actually!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
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We Are Dust
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FallenAwaken
User ID: 618444 United Kingdom 02/19/2009 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to image.maniadb.com] "Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE" "The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD" "I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US." - Martin Luther "What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE" "What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later" "Stones to throw at my Creator.. MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther.. But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS" |
Shaun
User ID: 567273 United States 02/19/2009 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart enough not to make a dumb statement like this, because I as all humans I don't know for sure. But it has crossed my mind why would a god want worship. Even as a lowly human with many flaws, I could not ever see myself wanting to be worshiped. Appreciated maybe. But I have to admit, I just don't get that one. Quoting: Saxon (777)The worship thing is similar to the Matrix movie theme. You, as a worshipper are like a "battery" to the fallen, as the fallen have "detuned" to the very fundamental Love aspect of our Creator. Therefore, they need those who still have that ability to do their tuning for them. Then, the FEAR aspect demodulates that energy to the lower energy form that THEY can "digest" for their own uses. Worship is devoid of Love, but instead provides the mental/spirit focus aspect of the transference of that energy. That's the reason most of the "houses of worship" are built on intersecting Earth ley/dragon lines with much of the architecture designed for the "transmission" of this energy. yeah that's true.. i like to worship myself,but not in an egotistic way..you probably know what i mean. thanks for sharing some truth:) namaste' ~we(me,kalindi,nimai and our unborn) need some help. [link to blogs.myspace.com] |
LeopardSanctuary
User ID: 679601 Canada 05/15/2009 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks Saxon Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest. Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's? Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves. The garden gives greatest power. Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]: Thread: Every item recently recalled by FDA for salmonella has diabetic healing also prostate Big Pharma rids their competition |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618285 United States 05/15/2009 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting thread. what the demigods require and what is required to leave this cycle of slavery are very similar. humans , being gods within, and 'material beings' without, have to go through certain degrees of understanding and self awareness to return to their free state. -humility is required by both demigods and the true path. -perfect patience " " -understanding without negative judgement (love) " " - self discipline " " - compassion " " - selflessness " " etc. the 'true path' and the path of following a demigod are one and the same...excepting the moment when you leap from subservience to a fake God and then to the willingness of heart to the 'real God' (what is). there are no mistakes. Time and demigods are not evil. The moments are all perfect. the only thing in error is the perception of what is happening. |
a passing cloud
User ID: 616505 United States 05/15/2009 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a relationship with god is a state of BEINGNESS. worship on the other hand is doingness....it is a state of mind in which we feel bound to the dictates of some authority. DO this, DO that, and you will be closer to god. you might even meet with his approval. personally i feel "worship" is only real if it celebrates our own greatness...when this happens we see ourselves as offshoots of deity, and see the greatness of deity in ourselves. there is little sense of seperation between the creator and the created in true "worship", in short, it becomes communion. Last Edited by a passing cloud on 05/15/2009 10:29 PM why did i send myself to this world?? there must have been a reason. |
Saxon (777)
(OP) User ID: 566252 United States 05/15/2009 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285what the demigods require and what is required to leave this cycle of slavery are very similar. humans , being gods within, and 'material beings' without, have to go through certain degrees of understanding and self awareness to return to their free state. -humility is required by both demigods and the true path. -perfect patience " " -understanding without negative judgement (love) " " - self discipline " " - compassion " " - selflessness " " etc. the 'true path' and the path of following a demigod are one and the same...excepting the moment when you leap from subservience to a fake God and then to the willingness of heart to the 'real God' (what is). there are no mistakes. Time and demigods are not evil. The moments are all perfect. the only thing in error is the perception of what is happening. Uh huh. And here comes the apologetic bullshit from the secret society crowd who purposely hides the Truth (or at least as much as they have) to enslave the rest of mankind. You hold that "benevolent lizard masters" thought. I'm sure your rationalization of your actions will play real big with our Creator. NOT. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer [link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
Saxon (777)
(OP) User ID: 566252 United States 05/15/2009 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a relationship with god is a state of BEINGNESS. worship on the other hand is doingness....it is a state of mind in which we feel bound to the dictates of some authority. DO this, DO that, and you will be closer to god. you might even meet with his approval. Quoting: a passing cloudpersonally i feel "worship" is only real if it celebrates our own greatness...when this happens we see ourselves as offshoots of deity, and see the greatness of deity in ourselves. there is little sense of seperation between the creator and the created in true "worship", in short, it becomes communion. Worship is warping from any angle. Love knows no worship. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer [link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
Saxon (777)
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Saxon (777)
(OP) User ID: 566252 United States 05/16/2009 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So true, it was said Nothing is PER CHANCE. Seeings they run T.V. not to mention Radio,Newpapers Etc. They produce Nothing that DOES NOT serve THEM. Listen to all the T.V. worshiping going on. It obviously SERVES THEIR PURPOSE!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 424156Yes. And a Heart turned to project its power to the "heros" is a Heart starving those directly surrounding. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer [link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
wingedlion/whiterider User ID: 680553 United States 05/16/2009 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am smart enough not to make a dumb statement like this, because I as all humans I don't know for sure. But it has crossed my mind why would a god want worship. Even as a lowly human with many flaws, I could not ever see myself wanting to be worshiped. Appreciated maybe. But I have to admit, I just don't get that one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618329The worship thing is similar to the Matrix movie theme. You, as a worshipper are like a "battery" to the fallen, as the fallen have "detuned" to the very fundamental Love aspect of our Creator. Therefore, they need those who still have that ability to do their tuning for them. Then, the FEAR aspect demodulates that energy to the lower energy form that THEY can "digest" for their own uses. Worship is devoid of Love, but instead provides the mental/spirit focus aspect of the transference of that energy. That's the reason most of the "houses of worship" are built on intersecting Earth ley/dragon lines with much of the architecture designed for the "transmission" of this energy. You nailed it!! imagine that...these to idiots in total agreement. God does not want worship as much as He want relationship with man. He shows that continually in the Exodus, where He desires to dwell among His people, also in the garden God came down to walk with Adam. God created us for relationship. Satan is who desires worship more than God, for it does "charge him" but YHVH needs no energy, He already has it all. All the energy of the universe and then some, but Satan does not, he is dependant upon the worship of his followers, and that is why their power is always limited and mine is not. So try feeding on that piece of truth spiritual retards, and see if it gets you any closer to the truth. |
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