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TUCSON, Ariz. — A federal jury found Tuesday that a southern Arizona rancher didn't violate the civil rights of a group of illegal immigrants who said he detained them at gunpoint in 2004.

The eight-member civil jury also found Roger Barnett wasn't liable on claims of battery and false imprisonment.

But the jury did find him liable on four claims of assault and four claims of infliction of emotional distress and ordered Barnett to pay $77,804 in damages — $60,000 of which were punitive.

Barnett declined to comment afterward, but one of his attorneys, David Hardy, said the plaintiffs lost on the bulk of their claims and that Barnett has a good basis for appeal on the two counts on which he lost.

"They won a fraction of the damages they were seeking," Hardy said.

All six plaintiffs are citizens of Mexico, five of whom are living in the United States with visa applications pending, and the sixth resides in Mexico but was allowed into the U.S. for the trial, said Nina Perales, an attorney with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. She declined to say where in the U.S. they're residing.

Perales called the outcome "a resounding victory that sends a message that vigilante violence against immigrants will not be tolerated."

David Urias, attorney for the plaintiffs, said, "Obviously we are disappointed with some aspects of the verdict. But I think that overall this was a victory for the plaintiffs."

For years, Arizona has been the busiest point along the Mexican border for illegal immigrants entering the United States.

For more than a decade, Barnett has been a controversial figure in southern Arizona. He's known for aggressively patrolling his ranch property and along highways and roads in the area, often with his wife and brothers, on the lookout for illegal immigrants.

The plaintiffs alleged that Barnett threatened them with his dog and told them he would shoot anyone who tried to escape.

Barnett's lawyers argued that his land was inundated with illegal immigrants who left trash on his property, damaged his water supply and harmed his cattle.

Barnett's wife and a brother were dismissed as defendants; in addition, 10 more people initially named as plaintiffs were dropped from the proceedings.

Barnett has been known to wear a holstered 9-mm pistol on his hip and upon coming across groups of migrants, to flash a blue and gold badge resembling that of the highway patrol, with the wording "Barnett Ranch Patrol. Cochise County. State of Arizona."

The Barnetts detain and turn over those whom they encounter to the U.S. Border Patrol. In 2006, Barnett estimated that he had detained more than 10,000 illegal immigrants in 10 years.

His actions have resulted in formal complaints from the Mexican government against what it considers vigilante actions, and in several other lawsuits, including one stemming from an October 2004 incident.

In that case, a jury awarded a family of Mexican-Americans on a hunting trip $100,000 in damages, later upheld by the Arizona Supreme Court.

Barnett's 22,000-acre ranch, about five miles north of the Mexican border, includes private and federal lease holdings in addition to nearly 14,000 acres of state-leased land
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broke

the justice system is BROKE
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Aafter that I'd get a friend to burn their house down with them in it.
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wtf
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Make no mistake though, he'll do this to anyone, American or not. I wonder how he managed to get tax payer land in the 14,000 acre range?
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Those trespassers - REGARDLESS of nationality - should be thankful they weren't on a Texan's ranch.
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All lhle has to do it write them a promissory note or a MONEY ORDER. Both are Legal Tender after all, and the debt is discharged.

After all, the uS Constitution clearly states "no state shall make anything but Gold and Silver Coin" payable for debts. Since the Government issues Legal Tender via the Federal Reserve, a power NOT granted to them by the Law of the Land, and it prohibits the State from doing it, that right clearly is a right of the People.

The Judge would have to accept the Legal tender payment since he is bound by the UCC. The UCC of Arizona clearly states what is legal tender for debts, and the Judge is bound to accept the payment and order the plantiff to accept it also. The UCC rules civil matters.
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:broke:

the justice system is BROKE
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Been broke esp. since 1913...
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The government should have PAID HIM for doing it's police work for it.

Obviously the Border Patrol is ALLOWING massive numbers of illegal immigrants to TRASH his land, to cause monetary damages to his land and property, and is placing him and his family in grave physical danger.

While the Border Patrol may argue that their dereliction of duty is not intentional, the repetitive nature of the vast numbers of illegals crossing his land argues otherwise.

When the government ceases doing it's job it is the RIGHT of the Citizenry to step up to the plate to assist it in order to protect their own physical well being and property.

Under the theory in this case NO PROPERTY OWNER could protect his property or life in the event of a Riot where the police refused to come to your aid, or other act of physical or property violence against them. That is Bull Shit!!
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If they're on his land, they're trespassing. Mexicans or not.

Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.
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Blaming the Border Patrol is foolish. If you had one border Patrol agent for every mile of the border it would be a different story. You add up all the guys on duty and devide the number of miles along just the Souther Border.. well you will get the point.

You want to pick on someone Pick on the FRIGGINING ATTORNEY that went after this case for the MONEY.... I say go to his home and run around his front and back yard...
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with a spread that big he is obviously a freemason organized crime type anyway. verdict is secret society trickery and they could have hung him for all i care.
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with a spread that big he is obviously a freemason organized crime type anyway. verdict is secret society trickery and they could have hung him for all i care.
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Freemason equals organized crime?

No.
Freemasonry does not equal organized crime.
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with a spread that big he is obviously a freemason organized crime type anyway. verdict is secret society trickery and they could have hung him for all i care.

Freemason equals organized crime?

No.
Freemasonry does not equal organized crime.
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No doubt. Since when does being a rancher mean you are part of some secret society or organized crime anyway? Besides, if this guy was part of something like that, the case never would have even made it to court.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


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Besides, if this guy was part of something like that, the case never would have even made it to court.

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Indeed, Jack, indeed.

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yeah shoot em then skin em .. i would fucking do it !! DEATH to these INFIDELS
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That is just terribly unfair, and makes me really, really angry.


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with a spread that big he is obviously a freemason organized crime type anyway. verdict is secret society trickery and they could have hung him for all i care.
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Your obviously a poor SOB with class envy
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with a spread that big he is obviously a freemason organized crime type anyway. verdict is secret society trickery and they could have hung him for all i care.


Your obviously a poor SOB with class envy
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no, i know how the system works. and i happen to be retired at 45 with all my preparations done and have never joined any organized crime group. i am a free man. and a nameless follwer of the tao.
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Any gun owner with half a brain will tell you that you never pull a gun on someone you don't plan to kill. That shit in the movies about shooting someone in the leg will get you killed for one thing. But then there is this issue too. If you don't kill the person, you can bet your ass you're gonna see that fuck in court for the next five years.
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Well, of course, Jack. My point was that one typically doesn't hear city cops giving such advise.

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Well, of course, Jack. My point was that one typically doesn't hear city cops giving such advise.

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To your everyday citizen, that is.

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Those trespassers - REGARDLESS of nationality - should be thankful they weren't on a Texan's ranch.
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It's legal in Texas to protect your property, at night, from theft by using deadly force.

There is a bill now in the Texas legislature to REQUIRE border ranchers to have night vision equipment on their rifles to improve their accuracy.
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Well, of course, Jack. My point was that one typically doesn't hear city cops giving such advise.
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True. As far as shooting to kill, I could see them giving that advice. But as far as advising tampering with a crime scene, or using a sawed-off shotgun (illegal), that is kinda out of the norm.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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:broke:

the justice system is BROKE
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What do you expect when we jail Border Patrol agents for doing their job?
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Well, of course, Jack. My point was that one typically doesn't hear city cops giving such advise.


True. As far as shooting to kill, I could see them giving that advice. But as far as advising tampering with a crime scene, or using a sawed-off shotgun (illegal), that is kinda out of the norm.
 Quoting: Jackinthebox


Now, now...."Modified" ;)

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Blaming the Border Patrol is foolish. If you had one border Patrol agent for every mile of the border it would be a different story. You add up all the guys on duty and devide the number of miles along just the Souther Border.. well you will get the point.

You want to pick on someone Pick on the FRIGGINING ATTORNEY that went after this case for the MONEY.... I say go to his home and run around his front and back yard...
 Quoting: Just a Coward 612361



BINGO!
These lawyers make a very, very good living out of these kinds of cases. The perps who were caught trespassing don't think of suing... the damned lawyers do. And they do it in Federal court so that, even if the plaintiff only is awarded ONE DOLLAR, the lawyer gets to charge his very, very, VERY hefty fees (millions of $$$) to the courts and guess who pays? Yep! WE DO.
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Blaming the Border Patrol is foolish. If you had one border Patrol agent for every mile of the border it would be a different story. You add up all the guys on duty and devide the number of miles along just the Souther Border.. well you will get the point.

You want to pick on someone Pick on the FRIGGINING ATTORNEY that went after this case for the MONEY.... I say go to his home and run around his front and back yard...



BINGO!
These lawyers make a very, very good living out of these kinds of cases. The perps who were caught trespassing don't think of suing... the damned lawyers do. And they do it in Federal court so that, even if the plaintiff only is awarded ONE DOLLAR, the lawyer gets to charge his very, very, VERY hefty fees (millions of $$$) to the courts and guess who pays? Yep! WE DO.
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and now lets see if you my little babies can follow this one. the attorneys where prodded on by the local secret society group who this rancher is a part of to appease the mexican government and to create sympathy for the rancher.. and ultimately for his secret gruop. your all rolling your eyes right now but think for a minute how one gets so much federal lease land. your connected thats how. organized crime working in your hood. he probaly got millions of dollars of land on lease for almost nothing. and then heres a good one, once the lease is signed the feds ask for some of the land back and have to pay a huge lease default penalty. this is how your corrupt organized crime system works out in rangeland.
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70,000 thousand dollar fine, and hang the organized crime asshole. can you people not read between the lines. this one is childs play to understand!
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Well, of course, Jack. My point was that one typically doesn't hear city cops giving such advise.


True. As far as shooting to kill, I could see them giving that advice. But as far as advising tampering with a crime scene, or using a sawed-off shotgun (illegal), that is kinda out of the norm.


Now, now...."Modified" ;)

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Here's the showstopper...

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When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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Re: Rancher to pay 70 gran to illegals for punitive damages.
Blaming the Border Patrol is foolish. If you had one border Patrol agent for every mile of the border it would be a different story. You add up all the guys on duty and devide the number of miles along just the Souther Border.. well you will get the point.

You want to pick on someone Pick on the FRIGGINING ATTORNEY that went after this case for the MONEY.... I say go to his home and run around his front and back yard...



BINGO!
These lawyers make a very, very good living out of these kinds of cases. The perps who were caught trespassing don't think of suing... the damned lawyers do. And they do it in Federal court so that, even if the plaintiff only is awarded ONE DOLLAR, the lawyer gets to charge his very, very, VERY hefty fees (millions of $$$) to the courts and guess who pays? Yep! WE DO.

and now lets see if you my little babies can follow this one. the attorneys where prodded on by the local secret society group who this rancher is a part of to appease the mexican government and to create sympathy for the rancher.. and ultimately for his secret gruop. your all rolling your eyes right now but think for a minute how one gets so much federal lease land. your connected thats how. organized crime working in your hood. he probaly got millions of dollars of land on lease for almost nothing. and then heres a good one, once the lease is signed the feds ask for some of the land back and have to pay a huge lease default penalty. this is how your corrupt organized crime system works out in rangeland.
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no one wants to think very hard do they.
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Blaming the Border Patrol is foolish. If you had one border Patrol agent for every mile of the border it would be a different story. You add up all the guys on duty and devide the number of miles along just the Souther Border.. well you will get the point.

You want to pick on someone Pick on the FRIGGINING ATTORNEY that went after this case for the MONEY.... I say go to his home and run around his front and back yard...



BINGO!
These lawyers make a very, very good living out of these kinds of cases. The perps who were caught trespassing don't think of suing... the damned lawyers do. And they do it in Federal court so that, even if the plaintiff only is awarded ONE DOLLAR, the lawyer gets to charge his very, very, VERY hefty fees (millions of $$$) to the courts and guess who pays? Yep! WE DO.

and now lets see if you my little babies can follow this one. the attorneys where prodded on by the local secret society group who this rancher is a part of to appease the mexican government and to create sympathy for the rancher.. and ultimately for his secret gruop. your all rolling your eyes right now but think for a minute how one gets so much federal lease land. your connected thats how. organized crime working in your hood. he probaly got millions of dollars of land on lease for almost nothing. and then heres a good one, once the lease is signed the feds ask for some of the land back and have to pay a huge lease default penalty. this is how your corrupt organized crime system works out in rangeland.

no one wants to think very hard do they.
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this is why america is falling off shit falls.[without paddle] no one has a frickin brain other than the evil ones among you.





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